What would you think of our top 3-4 picks going D

gftChris

@texasag1969 said:

Some decent ones will still be there at pick #33 IMO.

Some decent everything will still be there. Possibly even one of the 'top 3' QBs (as it stands). Certainly a pass rusher. But we're seriously lacking in star calibre in the secondary, while the front seven, if we keep collins and add garrett, has it in abundance. Garrett and Ogbah could be like Houston and Hali...

The Gipper

@frenchie said:

1. OLB Myles Garrett

2. S Jamal Adams

33. FS Budda Baker

and let's throw in:

Desmond King, CB Iowa (assuming he's still available by then)

Thoughts?

While there is merit....and need...to go all out on defense, we still need that QB, plus at least one OL needs to be taken high.

Tour2ma

If D for the first three is the way our Board falls, then so be it.

Personally Allen - Foster - Baker works better for me. Perfect front to back and inside out line up with virtually zero bust potential and a very, very high ceiling.

That said... Baker lasting to #33 is problematic and King even later is a pipe dream.

I can see Allen - Foster - Kizer - Maye (Florida FS) as a possible combo... albeit with bust potential introduced.

Mark O

@ballpeen said:
I don't know that I would double up on safty. If we double up that high, I take garrett and then take Barnett. I want to crush QB's. It will be a failed season if we don't knock at least 3 QBs out of the game.

Is Barnett the tennessee dude? If so, I'm all in on him. Allen, Barnett and a safety. Make the other teams afraid of our defense and the offense will get better.

ballpeen

@mark-o said:

Is Barnett the tennessee dude? If so, I'm all in on him. Allen, Barnett and a safety. Make the other teams afraid of our defense and the offense will get better.

Yes. A UT Vol. Kid just broke Reggie Whites sack total for all-time sack leader at UT.

When you start knocking Reggie White down a notch, you can't be a slouch.

Orion

BPA

...hard to miss a hole on either side of the ball.

RoyceRolls

I'd love to see Foster fall to 12. My professional scouting report on him reads as such:

Reuben Foster is good at fucking shit up.

tiamat63

@mark-o said:

Is Barnett the tennessee dude? If so, I'm all in on him. Allen, Barnett and a safety. Make the other teams afraid of our defense and the offense will get better.

You don't want Barnett in the first round.

Edit: as said above, Ogbah is fine where he is. You'd be drafting depth as your first pick. You need a premier edge rusher of interior force. Derek is neither of those.

PoeticG

Garrett #1

Trubisky #2

Hooker #12

what would it take to get SF's number 2?

We give SF

2017- 3rd round pick

2017- 4th round pick

2018- 1st round pick

2018- 2nd round pick

2018- 3rd round pick

-Or-

2017- 2nd round pick

2018- 1st round pick

2018- 2nd round pick

2019- 2nd round pick

?

LogicIsForSquares

Fuck. No.

PoeticG

We have 2 2nd rounders next year so really we'd only be giving up a first next draft and a second the following draft... You wouldn't trade that to finally have a franchise QB that we could build around for the next five years? We would have drafted Garrett and Trubisky, staples on both offense and defense. Then we'd still own our 12th pick in the first...

We could simply trade up from 12 to 2 and save some picks on the backend but I would rather backload the picks so we can still build our team. If we did that then we wouldn't have such a need as we have now. Say we win the Superbowl next year or make the playoffs, our 1st rounder would probably be in the 20-30s anyways... then we still have our second rounder from philly to play with...

LogicIsForSquares

@poeticg said:

We have 2 2nd rounders next year so really we'd only be giving up a first next draft and a second the following draft... You wouldn't trade that to finally have a franchise QB that we could build around for the next five years? We would have drafted Garrett and Trubisky, staples on both offense and defense. Then we'd still own our 12th pick in the first...

We could simply trade up from 12 to 2 and save some picks on the backend but I would rather backload the picks so we can still build our team. If we did that then we wouldn't have such a need as we have now. Say we win the Superbowl next year or make the playoffs, our 1st rounder would probably be in the 20-30s anyways... then we still have our second rounder from philly to play with...

Fuck. No.

Trubisky isn't a #2 talent. I still sorta have heart burn about him at 12 but can sorta deal with it.

LogicIsForSquares

If the Browns jumped back up to 2, I would hope they walked away with Garrett and Allen.

wargograw

@logicisforsquares said:
If the Browns jumped back up to 2, I would hope they walked away with Garrett and Allen.

Meet my boner.

wargograw

@logicisforsquares said:

Fuck. No.

Trubisky isn't a #2 talent. I still sorta have heart burn about him at 12 but can sorta deal with it.

Watch out. Gipper's about to be all riled up.

wargograw

@roycerolls said:

I'd love to see Foster fall to 12. My professional scouting report on him reads as such:

Reuben Foster is good at fucking shit up.

Accurate.

Frenchie

@ghoolie said:
Yes......if the Browns selected these as their first 3 picks, I would think that a jackoff made them.

These top three were selected by the Brown and Orange Report - I only added King to add to the contaversy of taking all D in the first and second rounds. Having said that, I take it you don't agree with them? Those are 4 instant starters and with a high ceiling. The D was crap this year. Resign Collins and add these 4 players and a lot can change quickly on D.

Yes we still need to solve the QB and O-Line.

Frenchie

Foster or Barnett over Adams in the first round? No way! I'd be surprised if Adam isn't gone in the top 6. We'd be dancing if he fell to us at 12. This would only happen if 4 QB's and an RB are taken in the top 11-

gftChris

@frenchie said:

These top three were selected by the Brown and Orange Report - I only added King to add to the contaversy of taking all D in the first and second rounds. Having said that, I take it you don't agree with them? Those are 4 instant starters and with a high ceiling. The D was crap this year. Resign Collins and add these 4 players and a lot can change quickly on D.

Yes we still need to solve the QB and O-Line.

I would be sold on taking those three guys (or similar) then a center.

The Gipper

@ballpeen said:

Yes. A UT Vol. Kid just broke Reggie Whites sack total for all-time sack leader at UT.

When you start knocking Reggie White down a notch, you can't be a slouch.

I think because of the stat you quote, that our analytics team may have him high on their list of prospects.