Browns to make pitch for Jimmy G // Trubisky #1 QB on their board

jiggins7919

I see what you're saying about the weight room, but I only mentioned it because we keep hearing about getting "AFC North Players", and strength is a valued asset. Not getting swollen to the point where you can't move or anything, but Cody Kessler's lack of strength was DEFINITELY noticeable, and I'm not just talking about "arm strength" either. Cody went down with ANY contact. Many of the sacks were legit, and were either caused due to holding onto the ball, or OL deficiency, but there were several sacks I can remember that gave me the impression Cody wasn't strong enough. Just an observation.

The first pick we own is such a mental cluster chicken. What was our biggest need on defense? How many times did we rush 4 or even blitz more and not get pressure...let alone a sack? It just seemed like our defenders got "absorbed" time after time. We are DESPERATE for an elite edge rusher. Not only that, an elite prospect could help the OTHER guys on the team. Maybe Ogbah gets more pressures and sacks because people are more concerned with Garrett. We couldn't get people off the field on 3rd down, and much of that was caused by a feeble pass rush. Conversely, what position have we needed since almost forever? A QB. So perhaps the way I look at is: We need an edge rusher and a QB. Which prospect is better? The answer is Garrett, and for this week, that's who I want to pick. Not sure who will be available at 12 for a QB, but hopefully someone we like.

The Gipper

@atenears said:

You guys do realize that even though he is listed as a junior, he has graduated already, and if he would be returning to school it would be begin Grad School in the Summer, right?

You mean Trubisky? Already graduated? No, did not know that. Well, now it even makes more sense for him to come out.

The Gipper

@atenears said:

Tim Couch ......... 6'-4", 220 lb

Mitch Trubisky ... 6'-3", 209 lbs

Player ........... Year ... CMP ... ATT ... YRDS ... PCT ... TDS ... INTS ... Rush ... YRDS ... TDS

Tim Couch ... 1998 ... 430 ... 601 .... 4,611 .... 71.5 .... 38 ..... 17 ........ 74 ....... 116 ........ 1

Mitch Trubisky 2016 ...304 ....446 .... 3,748 .... 68.2 .... 30 ....... 6 ........ 93 ....... 308 ........ 5

I see that Aaron Rodgers is only 6'3" 225 lbs. At 6'3" Trubisky could probably put on a good 10-15 lbs. Someone said he was a weight room freak.

Here were Rodgers college stats:

YearSchoolConfClassPos G CmpAtt Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate*

2003 California Pac-10SOQB 13 215/349 61.6 2903 8.3 8.8 19 5 146.6*

2004 California Pac-10JRQB 12 209/316 66.1 2566 8.1 8.5 24 8 154.3

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Mark O

@the-gipper said:

I see that Aaron Rodgers is only 6'3" 225 lbs. At 6'3" Trubisky could probably put on a good 10-15 lbs. Someone said he was a weight room freak.

Here were Rodgers college stats:

YearSchoolConfClassPosGCmpAttPctYdsY/AAY/ATDIntRate*2003 California Pac-10SOQB1321534961.629038.38.8195146.6*2004 California Pac-10JRQB1220931666.125668.18.5248154.3CareerCalifornia42466563.854698.28.64313150.3

I don't want him to be a weight room freak...I want him to be a film room freak.

ATENEARS

Mitch2Pryor said:

For anyone else, I'd agree with you. But this kid is from Cleveland, their family are die hard Browns fans, and he's said he wants to play for the Browns.

Could you imagine having the chance to go #1 overall to your hometown team you've loved since being a kid?

In addition, the way our city loves the Browns, if he comes in and becomes a franchise QB and turns us into a perennial playoff contender.. (and even wins a Super Bowl) he would fucking own this city, have a statue, fuck every bitch from Mentor to Avon and never fucking buy drinks here again

Frankly, to be successful as a QB you have to have confidence. The risk reward of going to the Browns would be big, but as a QB you can't pussy out. If he feels like he's ready, he should declare. It's not like he's going to go back to college because he's scared to go to the Browns.

I think EVERY alumni from Mentor High School should get free drinks.

ATENEARS

@mark-o said:

I don't want him to be a weight room freak...I want him to be a film room freak.

I was surprised to see that Mitch weights almost ten pounds less than Zombo's dreamboy, Tim Couch.

The Gipper

@mark-o said:

I don't want him to be a weight room freak...I want him to be a film room freak.

OK, I want him to be a winning QB freak....whatever that takes. But he could still use those like 10 pounds. Just for durability sake.

The Gipper

@atenears said:

I think EVERY alumni from Mentor High School should get free drinks.

Don't you get those when you lose all that money in Vegas?

DKAllDay

If Sashi and Company want job security, they will draft a QB #1. It will give them an automatic 3 years.. You can't fire a regime and coaching staff when they have a developing QB. Maybe I'm wrong, but when was the last time a regime got fired the year after they drafted their "franchise" guy?

If we take Mitch #1 and he plays all season and we go 3-13, I don't think anyone is getting fired because we have a franchise QB who is growing who needs continuity around him.

If we take Garrett #1 and go 3-13, more than likely heads will roll.

tiamat63

Mitch2Pryor said:

Maybe I'm wrong, but when was the last time a regime got fired the year after they drafted their "franchise" guy?

2015. And that was a pick by the owner himself.

hoorta

Mitch2Pryor said:

If Sashi and Company want job security, they will draft a QB #1. It will give them an automatic 3 years.. You can't fire a regime and coaching staff when they have a developing QB. Maybe I'm wrong, but when was the last time a regime got fired the year after they drafted their "franchise" guy?

If we take Mitch #1 and he plays all season and we go 3-13, I don't think anyone is getting fired because we have a franchise QB who is growing who needs continuity around him.

If we take Garrett #1 and go 3-13, more than likely heads will roll.

From a pure PR perspective taking Mitch #1 overall is a better move than Garrett. Most fans will give the hometown kid some time. There will always be a few idiots screaming he isn't playing like Elway or Manning right out of the gate.

Isn't this supposed to be a deep defensive draft? Better odds of getting a defensive stud than a great QB there @ #12.

The Gipper

@hoorta said:

From a pure PR perspective taking Mitch #1 overall is a better move than Garrett. Most fans will give the hometown kid some time. There will always be a few idiots screaming he isn't playing like Elway or Manning right out of the gate.

Isn't this supposed to be a deep defensive draft? Better odds of getting a defensive stud than a great QB there @ #12.

Did you see how Elway and Manning played right out of the gate? Not all that well. Their rookie seasons were by no means indicative of what they would become. So, yes, there would have to be a couple of "chill out" years.

One Post

Let's get Trubisky.

DKAllDay

@tiamat63 said:

2015. And that was a pick by the owner himself.

Farmer and Pettine got 2 years with Manziel.

tiamat63

Mitch2Pryor said:
Farmer and Pettine got 2 years with Manziel.

If we're going the 'year after' then it was 2015 seeing as how Johnny was teh chosen one and we let Hoyer walk.

DKAllDay

@tiamat63 said:

If we're going the 'year after' then it was 2015 seeing as how Johnny was teh chosen one and we let Hoyer walk.

No. Johnny was drafted in 2014 and Farmer and Pettine got 2 seasons with "their" QB on the roster.

I don't think there has ever been a time where a regime is fired one season after they drafted their guy at QB. Which would mean in all likely good if they go QB #1 we will have at least 2 more years of Hue and Sashi.

Tour2ma

@the-gipper said:
CareerCalifornia42466563.854698.28.64313150.3

Wow...

Tour2ma

Mitch2Pryor said:

If Sashi and Company want job security, they will draft a QB #1. It will give them an automatic 3 years.. You can't fire a regime and coaching staff when they have a developing QB. Maybe I'm wrong, but when was the last time a regime got fired the year after they drafted their "franchise" guy?

If we take Mitch #1 and he plays all season and we go 3-13, I don't think anyone is getting fired because we have a franchise QB who is growing who needs continuity around him.

If we take Garrett #1 and go 3-13, more than likely heads will roll.

Assumes a lot...

Say Mitch sits the first 12 games, then wins one of 4 and looks like a raw rookie doing it?

Say Garrett starts 16, hits double digit sacks, hurries and knock-downs on his way to DROY?

The Gipper

@tour2ma said:

Assumes a lot...

Say Mitch sits the first 12 games, then wins one of 4 and looks like a raw rookie doing it?

Say Garrett starts 16, hits double digit sacks, hurries and knock-downs on his way to DROY?

Yes, you are assuming a lot, both ways.

Maybe Garrett is the second coming of Aaron Curry or Aundray Bruce. Just because he went to A&M people are ASSuming that he will be Von Miller. That is like assuming that Tee Martin was going to be as good as Peyton Manning just because they were both Tennesse QBs (and, after all Tee Martin took UT to a national title where Peyton didn't).

I am not convinced that Barnett or Williams are not better prospects.

Tour2ma