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    The Browns have been scouting late round/UDFA tight ends. The new regime probably wants to groom their own guy.

    They've shown a lot of interest in NC State TE Anthony Hill, a guy I like: 6'5", 262 lbs., with soft hands. He has some durability concerns, so he'll go lower than he should (nfldraftscout says late 5th/early 6th round).

    Could be a nice long-term replacement for Heiden.

    Aloysius said:

    The Browns have been scouting late round/UDFA tight ends. The new regime probably wants to groom their own guy.

    They've shown a lot of interest in NC State TE Anthony Hill, a guy I like: 6'5", 262 lbs., with soft hands. He has some durability concerns, so he'll go lower than he should (nfldraftscout says late 5th/early 6th round).

    Could be a nice long-term replacement for Heiden.

    Looks like the Browns signed two players under the radar...Marcus Thomas and Aaron Walker

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/player.php?id=3773

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/player.php?id=3772

    -Jeff-
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    @riffer-x said:

    Uh, why?

    Can Alo or someone explain to me how the hell it makes sense to cut a guy like Sleestak at one of our thinnest spots? Especially since the guy looked damn good in camp last year.

    I realize he may be more of a receiver type but still, come on.......

    Well they did sign Royal (who replaces Dinkins), have Heiden coming back (theoritcally replaces Winslow in the lineup), and Rucker. It isn't really that thin. On paper, it is about the same as they were last season at TE, and that wasn't really a problem position for CLE.

    Masters said:

    Well they did sign Royal (who replaces Dinkins), have Heiden coming back (theoritcally replaces Winslow in the lineup), and Rucker. It isn't really that thin. On paper, it is about the same as they were last season at TE, and that wasn't really a problem position for CLE.

    Come on Mik I don't see how you can say TE is not a problem position. First off, Heiden blew his MCL and ACL and is going to be 33 by the start of the year. Rucker is a totally unproven commodity (thanks again RAC 'n ROLLS) that we don't even know if Mancock likes, especially given that he's a receiver first type. Alo broke down the Royal signing for me very well so I can get with that, but to think this position is even close to being deep is off base.

    Here's what I think we can surmise: They traded Winslow, a notorious receiver only threat who couldn't block in tight and severely limited our running game. Smart move there and tells us (especially with the Royal signing) what kind of TE they like, which is more the Chris Baker than Witten type. Now they're bringing in bigger, more physical types to compete in camp, so it's safe to say Sleestak just doesn't fit their prototype at TE more than it intimates them being satisfied with the depth there.

    I also don't feel the need to draft another TE this year with all our defensive needs, that's just plain stupid since we're short on picks in the late round thanks to Phillip and his Glue Hands Hubbard crush.

    I'm with Alo I think. Seems to me good scouting can find you what you want here without using a draft pick.

    Is a pig's ass pork?

  • Thanks for the updates, I've made the changes. Something tells me this Aaron Walker and Marcus Thomas signings will be training camp casualties. . . but maybe we'll be surprised.

    2009 prediction: 8-8, with a much more respectible looking team, and hopefully 3-3 in the division with at least 1 win over each team.
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    Aloysius said:

    Brad Cieslak cut

    Uh, why?

    Can Alo or someone explain to me how the hell it makes sense to cut a guy like Sleestak at one of our thinnest spots? Especially since the guy looked damn good in camp last year.

    I realize he may be more of a receiver type but still, come on.......

    @riffer-x said:

    Uh, why?

    Can Alo or someone explain to me how the hell it makes sense to cut a guy like Sleestak at one of our thinnest spots? Especially since the guy looked damn good in camp last year.

    I realize he may be more of a receiver type but still, come on.......

    Odd too because philly.com says he will be the Eagles starting TE..

    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle..._tight_end.html

    -Jeff-
  • T titleist585

    @riffer-x said:

    Uh, why?

    Can Alo or someone explain to me how the hell it makes sense to cut a guy like Sleestak at one of our thinnest spots? Especially since the guy looked damn good in camp last year.

    I realize he may be more of a receiver type but still, come on.......

    Odd too because philly.com says he will be the Eagles starting TE..

    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle..._tight_end.html

    @titleist585 said:

    Odd too because philly.com says he will be the Eagles starting TE..

    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle..._tight_end.html

    I dont think Cieslak and Celek are the same guy....

  • ? Guest

    @titleist585 said:

    Odd too because philly.com says he will be the Eagles starting TE..

    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle..._tight_end.html

    I dont think Cieslak and Celek are the same guy....

    AdaM said:

    I dont think Cieslak and Celek are the same guy....

    That's a big oops on my part...sorry guys...

    -Jeff-

  • Seth McKinney is now with the Bills.

  • FYI, I've updated the list to show draftees, players received in draft-day trades, then I sorted it to remove the 'departures.' In the 'departures' I included Free Agents who haven't been signed anywhere.

    If you see anything that is incorrect, or anything I've missed, please let me know!

    LITTLE HELP, PLEASE?! I've got 'mixed signals' on four players who I thought were FAs, and I find no indication that they were signed, however they show up on the Browns Roster page on clevelandbrowns.com. Those players are Kris Griffin, Louis Leonard, Shantee Orr, and John Madsen. Anyone got any ideas?

    2009 prediction: 8-8, with a much more respectible looking team, and hopefully 3-3 in the division with at least 1 win over each team.

  • You're simply great, Fooleeze!

    Any idea on a realistic depth chart as of today?

    All the way from Torino to Cleveland: GO BROWNS!!!!!!!

  • Thanks, Italian Dawg. . . guessing at a depth chart right now might be really difficult. I'll give it a whirl after the team squares away some of these undrafted FAs, and if I figure out whether Griffin, Leonard, Orr, and Madsen are still on the roster.

    2009 prediction: 8-8, with a much more respectible looking team, and hopefully 3-3 in the division with at least 1 win over each team.

  • Griffin and Orr are on Adam Caplan's list of the best available free agents, so it appears they're no longer under contract with the Browns.

    Rotoworld's got Madsen signed through this year. And they've got Louis Leonard listed as an exclusive rights free agent, which means he'll probably be coming to camp.

  • ? Guest

    Griffin and Orr are on Adam Caplan's list of the best available free agents, so it appears they're no longer under contract with the Browns.

    Rotoworld's got Madsen signed through this year. And they've got Louis Leonard listed as an exclusive rights free agent, which means he'll probably be coming to camp.

    Aloysius said:

    Griffin and Orr are on Adam Caplan's list of the best available free agents, so it appears they're no longer under contract with the Browns.

    Rotoworld's got Madsen signed through this year. And they've got Louis Leonard listed as an exclusive rights free agent, which means he'll probably be coming to camp.

    Ok, I'll go with that. . . consider Griffin and Orr as FAs, and Madsen and Leonard and still on the roster. If you hear otherwise, please share. I'll update the tracker now.

    2009 prediction: 8-8, with a much more respectible looking team, and hopefully 3-3 in the division with at least 1 win over each team.

  • daven holly hasn,t been sighed

    help me if i,m missing something but i know he wasn,t a great cb but why wouldn,t they move him to safty

    wouldn,t cost us shit and i didn,t think he was that bad at cover

    (safty back up is still a need)

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    daven holly hasn,t been sighed

    help me if i,m missing something but i know he wasn,t a great cb but why wouldn,t they move him to safty

    wouldn,t cost us shit and i didn,t think he was that bad at cover

    (safty back up is still a need)

    @cane666 said:

    daven holly hasn,t been sighed

    help me if i,m missing something but i know he wasn,t a great cb but why wouldn,t they move him to safty

    wouldn,t cost us shit and i didn,t think he was that bad at cover

    (safty back up is still a need)

    what's up with the comma's, lol that's a weird read

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico

  • From Rotoword, March 10

    Free agent CB Daven Holly visited with the Buccaneers on Tuesday.

    Holly spent all of last year on injured reserve after tearing his ACL in OTAs. The 26-year-old could compete for a role in Tampa Bay's nickel defense.

    "mz the pussy Sayz": Check a milk carton for future updates.

  • Zombo said:

    Dude, the only thing you're missing is "spellcheck"

    Zombo

    He must be texting guys.

    Leonard gives good insurance for camp. I've always liked him as a backup.

    Is a pig's ass pork?

  • The Browns signed safety Bret Lockett as an undrafted college free agent Safety

    they also waived safety Corey Boudreaux, wide receiver Brent Casteel, tight end Mike Massey and cornerback Antonio Smith.

    source:Browns Make roster moves

  • Thanks for the updates. . . I was out of town for a few days, so I've updated everything now. I've also added all UDFAs that show as having made the roster on the clevelandbrowns.com roster page.

    2009 prediction: 8-8, with a much more respectible looking team, and hopefully 3-3 in the division with at least 1 win over each team.

  • for Fooleeze

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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    for Fooleeze

    nmills said:

    for Fooleeze

    HA, Awesome nmills, thanks for the song. (Didn't realize people could see my birthday, or even paid attention. . . )

    Thanks!

    Todd

    2009 prediction: 8-8, with a much more respectible looking team, and hopefully 3-3 in the division with at least 1 win over each team.
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