BROWNS ROSTER TRACKING
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I don't see a problem adding a veteran for depth. He won't start, but adding veteran depth is a fine plan.
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charles ali resigned
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Aloysius said:
Brad Cieslak cutUh, why?
Can Alo or someone explain to me how the hell it makes sense to cut a guy like Sleestak at one of our thinnest spots? Especially since the guy looked damn good in camp last year.
I realize he may be more of a receiver type but still, come on.......
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Aloysius said:
Brad Cieslak cutUh, why?
Can Alo or someone explain to me how the hell it makes sense to cut a guy like Sleestak at one of our thinnest spots? Especially since the guy looked damn good in camp last year.
I realize he may be more of a receiver type but still, come on.......
Uh, why?
Can Alo or someone explain to me how the hell it makes sense to cut a guy like Sleestak at one of our thinnest spots? Especially since the guy looked damn good in camp last year.
I realize he may be more of a receiver type but still, come on.......
Well they did sign Royal (who replaces Dinkins), have Heiden coming back (theoritcally replaces Winslow in the lineup), and Rucker. It isn't really that thin. On paper, it is about the same as they were last season at TE, and that wasn't really a problem position for CLE.
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The Browns have been scouting late round/UDFA tight ends. The new regime probably wants to groom their own guy.
They've shown a lot of interest in NC State TE Anthony Hill, a guy I like: 6'5", 262 lbs., with soft hands. He has some durability concerns, so he'll go lower than he should (nfldraftscout says late 5th/early 6th round).
Could be a nice long-term replacement for Heiden.
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The Browns have been scouting late round/UDFA tight ends. The new regime probably wants to groom their own guy.
They've shown a lot of interest in NC State TE Anthony Hill, a guy I like: 6'5", 262 lbs., with soft hands. He has some durability concerns, so he'll go lower than he should (nfldraftscout says late 5th/early 6th round).
Could be a nice long-term replacement for Heiden.
Aloysius said:
The Browns have been scouting late round/UDFA tight ends. The new regime probably wants to groom their own guy.They've shown a lot of interest in NC State TE Anthony Hill, a guy I like: 6'5", 262 lbs., with soft hands. He has some durability concerns, so he'll go lower than he should (nfldraftscout says late 5th/early 6th round).
Could be a nice long-term replacement for Heiden.
Looks like the Browns signed two players under the radar...Marcus Thomas and Aaron Walker
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Uh, why?
Can Alo or someone explain to me how the hell it makes sense to cut a guy like Sleestak at one of our thinnest spots? Especially since the guy looked damn good in camp last year.
I realize he may be more of a receiver type but still, come on.......
Well they did sign Royal (who replaces Dinkins), have Heiden coming back (theoritcally replaces Winslow in the lineup), and Rucker. It isn't really that thin. On paper, it is about the same as they were last season at TE, and that wasn't really a problem position for CLE.
Masters said:
Well they did sign Royal (who replaces Dinkins), have Heiden coming back (theoritcally replaces Winslow in the lineup), and Rucker. It isn't really that thin. On paper, it is about the same as they were last season at TE, and that wasn't really a problem position for CLE.Come on Mik I don't see how you can say TE is not a problem position. First off, Heiden blew his MCL and ACL and is going to be 33 by the start of the year. Rucker is a totally unproven commodity (thanks again RAC 'n ROLLS) that we don't even know if Mancock likes, especially given that he's a receiver first type. Alo broke down the Royal signing for me very well so I can get with that, but to think this position is even close to being deep is off base.
Here's what I think we can surmise: They traded Winslow, a notorious receiver only threat who couldn't block in tight and severely limited our running game. Smart move there and tells us (especially with the Royal signing) what kind of TE they like, which is more the Chris Baker than Witten type. Now they're bringing in bigger, more physical types to compete in camp, so it's safe to say Sleestak just doesn't fit their prototype at TE more than it intimates them being satisfied with the depth there.
I also don't feel the need to draft another TE this year with all our defensive needs, that's just plain stupid since we're short on picks in the late round thanks to Phillip and his Glue Hands Hubbard crush.
I'm with Alo I think. Seems to me good scouting can find you what you want here without using a draft pick.
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Thanks for the updates, I've made the changes. Something tells me this Aaron Walker and Marcus Thomas signings will be training camp casualties. . . but maybe we'll be surprised.
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Aloysius said:
Brad Cieslak cutUh, why?
Can Alo or someone explain to me how the hell it makes sense to cut a guy like Sleestak at one of our thinnest spots? Especially since the guy looked damn good in camp last year.
I realize he may be more of a receiver type but still, come on.......
Uh, why?
Can Alo or someone explain to me how the hell it makes sense to cut a guy like Sleestak at one of our thinnest spots? Especially since the guy looked damn good in camp last year.
I realize he may be more of a receiver type but still, come on.......
Odd too because philly.com says he will be the Eagles starting TE..
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle..._tight_end.html
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Uh, why?
Can Alo or someone explain to me how the hell it makes sense to cut a guy like Sleestak at one of our thinnest spots? Especially since the guy looked damn good in camp last year.
I realize he may be more of a receiver type but still, come on.......
Odd too because philly.com says he will be the Eagles starting TE..
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle..._tight_end.html
Odd too because philly.com says he will be the Eagles starting TE..
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle..._tight_end.html
I dont think Cieslak and Celek are the same guy....
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Odd too because philly.com says he will be the Eagles starting TE..
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle..._tight_end.html
I dont think Cieslak and Celek are the same guy....
AdaM said:
I dont think Cieslak and Celek are the same guy....That's a big oops on my part...sorry guys...
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Seth McKinney is now with the Bills.
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FYI, I've updated the list to show draftees, players received in draft-day trades, then I sorted it to remove the 'departures.' In the 'departures' I included Free Agents who haven't been signed anywhere.
If you see anything that is incorrect, or anything I've missed, please let me know!
LITTLE HELP, PLEASE?! I've got 'mixed signals' on four players who I thought were FAs, and I find no indication that they were signed, however they show up on the Browns Roster page on clevelandbrowns.com. Those players are Kris Griffin, Louis Leonard, Shantee Orr, and John Madsen. Anyone got any ideas?
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You're simply great, Fooleeze!
Any idea on a realistic depth chart as of today?
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Thanks, Italian Dawg. . . guessing at a depth chart right now might be really difficult. I'll give it a whirl after the team squares away some of these undrafted FAs, and if I figure out whether Griffin, Leonard, Orr, and Madsen are still on the roster.
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Griffin and Orr are on Adam Caplan's list of the best available free agents, so it appears they're no longer under contract with the Browns.
Rotoworld's got Madsen signed through this year. And they've got Louis Leonard listed as an exclusive rights free agent, which means he'll probably be coming to camp.
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Griffin and Orr are on Adam Caplan's list of the best available free agents, so it appears they're no longer under contract with the Browns.
Rotoworld's got Madsen signed through this year. And they've got Louis Leonard listed as an exclusive rights free agent, which means he'll probably be coming to camp.
Aloysius said:
Griffin and Orr are on Adam Caplan's list of the best available free agents, so it appears they're no longer under contract with the Browns.Rotoworld's got Madsen signed through this year. And they've got Louis Leonard listed as an exclusive rights free agent, which means he'll probably be coming to camp.
Ok, I'll go with that. . . consider Griffin and Orr as FAs, and Madsen and Leonard and still on the roster. If you hear otherwise, please share. I'll update the tracker now.
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daven holly hasn,t been sighed
help me if i,m missing something but i know he wasn,t a great cb but why wouldn,t they move him to safty
wouldn,t cost us shit and i didn,t think he was that bad at cover
(safty back up is still a need)
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