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    @one-post said:

    Farve wasn't highly touted. He wasn't drafted high. Not solved.

    33rd overall, reasonably high.

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    @gftchris said:

    33rd overall, reasonably high.

    He was pronounced "Faav--Ray" when they called his name.
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      Of all the highly touted qb's coming into the draft which ones with character issues rose above it all and had amazing careers?

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      @one-post said:

      Of all the highly touted qb's coming into the draft which ones with character issues rose above it all and had amazing careers?

      Again, I think Marino is the one that most represents what you were looking for.

      Fair to say?

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        @one-post said:

        Of all the highly touted qb's coming into the draft which ones with character issues rose above it all and had amazing careers?

        Again, I think Marino is the one that most represents what you were looking for.

        Fair to say?

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        @the-gipper said:

        Again, I think Marino is the one that most represents what you were looking for.

        Fair to say?

        So far. But in only fortifies my comment about a team not going for a qb if he had character issues.

        Not too many Marinos out there.

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          You got the best answer until someone else tops ya.

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            @the-gipper said:

            Again, I think Marino is the one that most represents what you were looking for.

            Fair to say?

            So far. But in only fortifies my comment about a team not going for a qb if he had character issues.

            Not too many Marinos out there.

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @one-post said:

            So far. But in only fortifies my comment about a team not going for a qb if he had character issues.

            Not too many Marinos out there.

            Is there some current QB prospect with character issues that you perceive to likely have an issue in this next draft, just curious?

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              @one-post said:

              So far. But in only fortifies my comment about a team not going for a qb if he had character issues.

              Not too many Marinos out there.

              Is there some current QB prospect with character issues that you perceive to likely have an issue in this next draft, just curious?

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              @the-gipper said:

              Is there some current QB prospect with character issues that you perceive to likely have an issue in this next draft, just curious?

              That's what I'm waiting for Gip. So far nothing really sticks out but as you know...shit happens. Or it just might be the year to grab one!
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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                Have to remember that P. Manning had a sexual assault/indecent exposure cloud hanging over him coming out of Tennessee. Seems silly now, but it was a thing.

                I think Kerry Collins had some issues coming out as well... turned into even bigger ones before he found himself late in his career.

                Also would mention Nameth. But in his case rather than overcome them, he cultivated them to his great benefit.

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                  Have to remember that P. Manning had a sexual assault/indecent exposure cloud hanging over him coming out of Tennessee. Seems silly now, but it was a thing.

                  I think Kerry Collins had some issues coming out as well... turned into even bigger ones before he found himself late in his career.

                  Also would mention Nameth. But in his case rather than overcome them, he cultivated them to his great benefit.

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @tour2ma said:

                  Have to remember that P. Manning had a sexual assault/indecent exposure cloud hanging over him coming out of Tennessee. Seems silly now, but it was a thing.

                  I don't remember that, at all.

                  I think Kerry Collins had some issues coming out as well... turned into even bigger ones before he found himself late in his career.

                  What were the issues?

                  Also would mention Nameth. But in his case rather than overcome them, he cultivated them to his great benefit.

                  Other than liking to fuck chicks, what were Joe's issues? That was not considered a character issue then...and it is not one now....as long as you don't force yourself on one or hit one.

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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Have to remember that P. Manning had a sexual assault/indecent exposure cloud hanging over him coming out of Tennessee. Seems silly now, but it was a thing.

                    I don't remember that, at all.

                    I think Kerry Collins had some issues coming out as well... turned into even bigger ones before he found himself late in his career.

                    What were the issues?

                    Also would mention Nameth. But in his case rather than overcome them, he cultivated them to his great benefit.

                    Other than liking to fuck chicks, what were Joe's issues? That was not considered a character issue then...and it is not one now....as long as you don't force yourself on one or hit one.

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                    @the-gipper said:

                    @tour2ma said:

                    Have to remember that P. Manning had a sexual assault/indecent exposure cloud hanging over him coming out of Tennessee. Seems silly now, but it was a thing.

                    I don't remember that, at all.

                    I think Kerry Collins had some issues coming out as well... turned into even bigger ones before he found himself late in his career.

                    What were the issues?

                    Also would mention Nameth. But in his case rather than overcome them, he cultivated them to his great benefit.

                    Other than liking to fuck chicks, what were Joe's issues? That was not considered a character issue then...and it is not one now....as long as you don't force yourself on one or hit one.

                    Breaking down sexual assault allegations against Peyton Manning

                    http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/13/peyton-manning-tennessee-sexual-assault-allegations-Jamie-Naughright

                    Can't find specifics on Collins, but read once that his alcoholism did not start after he graduated from PSU.

                    Joe Namath had 300 sexual partners at Alabama

                    http://larrybrownsports.com/football/joe-namath-300-sexual-partners-alabama/202887

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                      @the-gipper said:

                      @tour2ma said:

                      Have to remember that P. Manning had a sexual assault/indecent exposure cloud hanging over him coming out of Tennessee. Seems silly now, but it was a thing.

                      I don't remember that, at all.

                      I think Kerry Collins had some issues coming out as well... turned into even bigger ones before he found himself late in his career.

                      What were the issues?

                      Also would mention Nameth. But in his case rather than overcome them, he cultivated them to his great benefit.

                      Other than liking to fuck chicks, what were Joe's issues? That was not considered a character issue then...and it is not one now....as long as you don't force yourself on one or hit one.

                      Breaking down sexual assault allegations against Peyton Manning

                      http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/13/peyton-manning-tennessee-sexual-assault-allegations-Jamie-Naughright

                      Can't find specifics on Collins, but read once that his alcoholism did not start after he graduated from PSU.

                      Joe Namath had 300 sexual partners at Alabama

                      http://larrybrownsports.com/football/joe-namath-300-sexual-partners-alabama/202887

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @tour2ma said:

                      Breaking down sexual assault allegations against Peyton Manning

                      http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/13/peyton-manning-tennessee-sexual-assault-allegations-Jamie-Naughright

                      Can't find specifics on Collins, but read once that his alcoholism did not start after he graduated from PSU.

                      OK, now that does seem familiar.

                      Joe Namath had 300 sexual partners at Alabama

                      http://larrybrownsports.com/football/joe-namath-300-sexual-partners-alabama/202887

                      And what's wrong with that? If you believe it. (not sure I do...but it could be possible.).

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        And Manning?

                        Namath just had a party-boy rep. Nothing wrong with that in the legal sense and in his day might even have been considered an asset if it was considered at all. Today? He'd fall down a lot of boards...

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                          And Manning?

                          Namath just had a party-boy rep. Nothing wrong with that in the legal sense and in his day might even have been considered an asset if it was considered at all. Today? He'd fall down a lot of boards...

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @tour2ma said:

                          And Manning?

                          Namath just had a party-boy rep. Nothing wrong with that in the legal sense and in his day might even have been considered an asset if it was considered at all. Today? He'd fall down a lot of boards...

                          He would fall down the board for getting laid? I don't think so. But, yes, perhaps having a "party" reputation would hurt nowadays....especially after the Johnny Manziel fiasco.

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                            Namath was a party boy, bar fights, hung out with crime family types ... I think that shit was all cool in the 60's. Guys like Jerry Rice and Peyton Manning ruined it for everybody.

                            Zombo

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                              @tour2ma said:

                              And Manning?

                              Namath just had a party-boy rep. Nothing wrong with that in the legal sense and in his day might even have been considered an asset if it was considered at all. Today? He'd fall down a lot of boards...

                              He would fall down the board for getting laid? I don't think so. But, yes, perhaps having a "party" reputation would hurt nowadays....especially after the Johnny Manziel fiasco.

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                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                              @the-gipper said:

                              He would fall down the board for getting laid? I don't think so. But, yes, perhaps having a "party" reputation would hurt nowadays....especially after the Johnny Manziel fiasco.

                              And Manning?

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                                Ken "the Snake" Stabler was a bad ass in High School and wouldn't go to class while playing for Paul "Bear" Bryant at Alabama. He was know for chugging Jack Daniels before during and after practice while leading the Raiders in the mid-70's under the great John Madden. The Snake was the coolest badass QB to ever play in the NFl.

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