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  • Identical pick play to win. Big 12 refs really suck at calling those.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Identical pick play to win. Big 12 refs really suck at calling those.

    What do you think the Aggie offense makes their bones on with the sprint out concepts? They may be a little more subtle about it, but not much.

  • got to say watson upped his draft stock tonight i believe

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Identical pick play to win. Big 12 refs really suck at calling those.

    What do you think the Aggie offense makes their bones on with the sprint out concepts? They may be a little more subtle about it, but not much.

    @tiamat63 said:

    What do you think the Aggie offense makes their bones on with the sprint out concepts? They may be a little more subtle about it, but not much.

    Those two picks were not even subtle. Out and out blocks across the LOS to open up the receiver. Pretty bad no calls. I don't mind Bama giving one up to an underdog that hasn't won one, but I don't like it to be because of poor refereeing. Ruins the purity of the win for me.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    What do you think the Aggie offense makes their bones on with the sprint out concepts? They may be a little more subtle about it, but not much.

    Those two picks were not even subtle. Out and out blocks across the LOS to open up the receiver. Pretty bad no calls. I don't mind Bama giving one up to an underdog that hasn't won one, but I don't like it to be because of poor refereeing. Ruins the purity of the win for me.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Those two picks were not even subtle. Out and out blocks across the LOS to open up the receiver. Pretty bad no calls. I don't mind Bama giving one up to an underdog that hasn't won one, but I don't like it to be because of poor refereeing. Ruins the purity of the win for me.

    The first one was subtle and a good "no call". It was marginal and WR are allowed to run criss-crossing patterns. It could have been called but I think most refs would not have called it. The second one was not subtle and a clear pick. What makes it worse is that the refs don't make the obvious pick penalty call after they didn't make it on the earlier, margin call. You would think that even refs would pick-up a thing or two.

  • got to say watson upped his draft stock tonight i believe

    @beare said:

    got to say watson upped his draft stock tonight i believe

    I agree. Maybe all the way to #1.

  • @beare said:

    got to say watson upped his draft stock tonight i believe

    I agree. Maybe all the way to #1.

    @frenchie said:

    I agree. Maybe all the way to #1.

    He's a heck of a football player.

    And a pretty accurate passer.

    Just feels like he's gonna to be average NFL QB, not a great one ... But we've all been wrong about these guys before.

    Z

  • Alabama wins! Browns draft Allen & Foster!

    @opal312 said:

    Alabama wins! Browns draft Allen & Foster!

    See below.

    @atenears said:

    Is Allen gonna show-up at some point in this first half?

    Didn't see much of Allen- other than one play where he creamed Watson, took forever for him to get there. Didn't see much push, and a decided lack of effort when the play wasn't going his way. Was moved around a lot on the D-line. Only one game though. If that's how he plays, I say Nyet @ #1. Way more impressed with Rubin Foster and Ryan Anderson. Ben Boulware from Clemson.

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Bama wins. Hue falls in love with Watson during senior bowl week and lobbies go to draft him. Watson will become the biggest QB bust since Russell. That will be Hues retirement icing after 0-6 start next season. I hear 3 outa 4 homeless dudes prefer Watson too. That should make Trubisky a HOF QB...For another team. We're the Browns, it's what we do

    Except Watson's not a senior. I am impressed that he graduated in three years, which means he's no dummy. Ha- Trubisky is though- already graduated. can they put him on the roster at this late time?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Big 12 referees suck-that was a terrible no call on the pick to free the wr

    Argggggg......

    @texasag1969 said:

    Identical pick play to win. Big 12 refs really suck at calling those.

    Double Argggggg. If those weren't flagrant pick plays, I don't know what one is.

    @frenchie said:

    I agree. Maybe all the way to #1.

    #1? Watson didn't show me anything so spectacular to warrant moving up that far. Mike Williams bailed him out mucho plenty of times. If they have him rated as the top WR in the draft, I can see why. Shades of JF having Evans as his security blanket- just chuck it up in the same area code, and expect good things to happen. Alabama found out they couldn't cover him one on one- that freed up the other wrs for single coverage. And as Ag pointed out, uncalled pick plays. One of Clemson's TDs was directly attributable to Williams- the 'Bama defender knew he was beat, so he had to grab him, putting the ball on the 2 yard line.

    Had to look- Watson's completion % in that game was marginally higher than Trubiski's against Stanford. 63% as opposed to 60% But Mitch's wrs were dropping passes left and right that hit them in the numbers.

    Z, there were plenty of off target passes, as well as the nice ones. I also saw Deshawn took helicopter lessons from our pal McCown. OK, impressed he was able to get back up after some of the shots Alabama put on him. Take away his running ability, and he's a very average prospect. I stand by my earlier assessment- he's another RG III some team is going to fall in love with because of his athleticism.

  • Amazing analysis, Hoorta. Two years, two BCS bowl games against Bama's top defense, puts up over 450 yards of offense in both national title games. You gotta give him a better than "average" rating and "shades of JF". He's going to go top 5 ... probably top 3 ... and maybe #1

  • Except Watson's not a senior. I am impressed that he graduated in three years, which means he's no dummy. Ha- Trubisky is though- already graduated. can they put him on the roster at this late time?

    Argggggg......

    Double Argggggg. If those weren't flagrant pick plays, I don't know what one is.

    #1? Watson didn't show me anything so spectacular to warrant moving up that far. Mike Williams bailed him out mucho plenty of times. If they have him rated as the top WR in the draft, I can see why. Shades of JF having Evans as his security blanket- just chuck it up in the same area code, and expect good things to happen. Alabama found out they couldn't cover him one on one- that freed up the other wrs for single coverage. And as Ag pointed out, uncalled pick plays. One of Clemson's TDs was directly attributable to Williams- the 'Bama defender knew he was beat, so he had to grab him, putting the ball on the 2 yard line.

    Had to look- Watson's completion % in that game was marginally higher than Trubiski's against Stanford. 63% as opposed to 60% But Mitch's wrs were dropping passes left and right that hit them in the numbers.

    Z, there were plenty of off target passes, as well as the nice ones. I also saw Deshawn took helicopter lessons from our pal McCown. OK, impressed he was able to get back up after some of the shots Alabama put on him. Take away his running ability, and he's a very average prospect. I stand by my earlier assessment- he's another RG III some team is going to fall in love with because of his athleticism.

    Yes but Phil Sewage has extended an invite to him. Been in local press since it was announced that our 1-15 HC will be running the South team. Some sort of technicality allows Watson to play

  • @opal312 said:

    Alabama wins! Browns draft Allen & Foster!

    See below.

    @atenears said:

    Is Allen gonna show-up at some point in this first half?

    Didn't see much of Allen- other than one play where he creamed Watson, took forever for him to get there. Didn't see much push, and a decided lack of effort when the play wasn't going his way. Was moved around a lot on the D-line. Only one game though. If that's how he plays, I say Nyet @ #1. Way more impressed with Rubin Foster and Ryan Anderson. Ben Boulware from Clemson.

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Bama wins. Hue falls in love with Watson during senior bowl week and lobbies go to draft him. Watson will become the biggest QB bust since Russell. That will be Hues retirement icing after 0-6 start next season. I hear 3 outa 4 homeless dudes prefer Watson too. That should make Trubisky a HOF QB...For another team. We're the Browns, it's what we do

    Except Watson's not a senior. I am impressed that he graduated in three years, which means he's no dummy. Ha- Trubisky is though- already graduated. can they put him on the roster at this late time?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Big 12 referees suck-that was a terrible no call on the pick to free the wr

    Argggggg......

    @texasag1969 said:

    Identical pick play to win. Big 12 refs really suck at calling those.

    Double Argggggg. If those weren't flagrant pick plays, I don't know what one is.

    @frenchie said:

    I agree. Maybe all the way to #1.

    #1? Watson didn't show me anything so spectacular to warrant moving up that far. Mike Williams bailed him out mucho plenty of times. If they have him rated as the top WR in the draft, I can see why. Shades of JF having Evans as his security blanket- just chuck it up in the same area code, and expect good things to happen. Alabama found out they couldn't cover him one on one- that freed up the other wrs for single coverage. And as Ag pointed out, uncalled pick plays. One of Clemson's TDs was directly attributable to Williams- the 'Bama defender knew he was beat, so he had to grab him, putting the ball on the 2 yard line.

    Had to look- Watson's completion % in that game was marginally higher than Trubiski's against Stanford. 63% as opposed to 60% But Mitch's wrs were dropping passes left and right that hit them in the numbers.

    Z, there were plenty of off target passes, as well as the nice ones. I also saw Deshawn took helicopter lessons from our pal McCown. OK, impressed he was able to get back up after some of the shots Alabama put on him. Take away his running ability, and he's a very average prospect. I stand by my earlier assessment- he's another RG III some team is going to fall in love with because of his athleticism.

    @hoorta said:

    I stand by my earlier assessment- he's another RG III some team is going to fall in love with because of his athleticism.

    You mean someone like say, oh I don't know, .....................maybe........................................OH LORD.........................say...................................................................HUEY! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! 😉

  • @hoorta said:

    I stand by my earlier assessment- he's another RG III some team is going to fall in love with because of his athleticism.

    You mean someone like say, oh I don't know, .....................maybe........................................OH LORD.........................say...................................................................HUEY! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! 😉

    @texasag1969 said:

    You mean someone like say, oh I don't know, .....................maybe........................................OH LORD.........................say...................................................................HUEY! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! 😉

    Watson is invited to the Senior bowl. Hue will luv him long time and the rest becomes history.

  • @frenchie said:

    I agree. Maybe all the way to #1.

    He's a heck of a football player.

    And a pretty accurate passer.

    Just feels like he's gonna to be average NFL QB, not a great one ... But we've all been wrong about these guys before.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    He's a heck of a football player.

    And a pretty accurate passer.

    Just feels like he's gonna to be average NFL QB, not a great one ... But we've all been wrong about these guys before.

    Z

    Even though he (they) just won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP I have the same strange feeling about Watson...and Watson has some strange comments about the game and his premonitions, spooky huh. 😕

  • Terrific game...just amazing. Clemson never quit, and absorbed every punch Bama threw. Clemson ain't afraid to run that "pick play" every time they need a touchdown, LOL.

  • Except Watson's not a senior. I am impressed that he graduated in three years, which means he's no dummy. Ha- Trubisky is though- already graduated. can they put him on the roster at this late time?

    Argggggg......

    Double Argggggg. If those weren't flagrant pick plays, I don't know what one is.

    #1? Watson didn't show me anything so spectacular to warrant moving up that far. Mike Williams bailed him out mucho plenty of times. If they have him rated as the top WR in the draft, I can see why. Shades of JF having Evans as his security blanket- just chuck it up in the same area code, and expect good things to happen. Alabama found out they couldn't cover him one on one- that freed up the other wrs for single coverage. And as Ag pointed out, uncalled pick plays. One of Clemson's TDs was directly attributable to Williams- the 'Bama defender knew he was beat, so he had to grab him, putting the ball on the 2 yard line.

    Had to look- Watson's completion % in that game was marginally higher than Trubiski's against Stanford. 63% as opposed to 60% But Mitch's wrs were dropping passes left and right that hit them in the numbers.

    Z, there were plenty of off target passes, as well as the nice ones. I also saw Deshawn took helicopter lessons from our pal McCown. OK, impressed he was able to get back up after some of the shots Alabama put on him. Take away his running ability, and he's a very average prospect. I stand by my earlier assessment- he's another RG III some team is going to fall in love with because of his athleticism.

    Yes but Phil Sewage has extended an invite to him. Been in local press since it was announced that our 1-15 HC will be running the South team. Some sort of technicality allows Watson to play

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Except Watson's not a senior. I am impressed that he graduated in three years, which means he's no dummy. Ha- Trubisky is though- already graduated. can they put him on the roster at this late time?

    Argggggg......

    Double Argggggg. If those weren't flagrant pick plays, I don't know what one is.

    #1? Watson didn't show me anything so spectacular to warrant moving up that far. Mike Williams bailed him out mucho plenty of times. If they have him rated as the top WR in the draft, I can see why. Shades of JF having Evans as his security blanket- just chuck it up in the same area code, and expect good things to happen. Alabama found out they couldn't cover him one on one- that freed up the other wrs for single coverage. And as Ag pointed out, uncalled pick plays. One of Clemson's TDs was directly attributable to Williams- the 'Bama defender knew he was beat, so he had to grab him, putting the ball on the 2 yard line.

    Had to look- Watson's completion % in that game was marginally higher than Trubiski's against Stanford. 63% as opposed to 60% But Mitch's wrs were dropping passes left and right that hit them in the numbers.

    Z, there were plenty of off target passes, as well as the nice ones. I also saw Deshawn took helicopter lessons from our pal McCown. OK, impressed he was able to get back up after some of the shots Alabama put on him. Take away his running ability, and he's a very average prospect. I stand by my earlier assessment- he's another RG III some team is going to fall in love with because of his athleticism.

    Yes but Phil Sewage has extended an invite to him. Been in local press since it was announced that our 1-15 HC will be running the South team. Some sort of technicality allows Watson to play

    They changed the rule last year to allow 4 year juniors who have graduated to take part in the senior bowl. Even though Watson has only played 3 years, I believe they are relaxing the rules further to allow 3 year junior graduates to play. I don't see them ever letting 3 year sophmores play though. I don't think they want to encourage rs sophmores to leave for the draft early.

  • Man, the thing about Watson that you gotta love is the intangible of showing up big when the stakes are the biggest. The guy balled out in both championship games.

  • Nice win by Clemson. I was rooting for them to pull it out.

  • Big 12 referees suck-that was a terrible no call on the pick to free the wr

    @texasag1969 said:

    Big 12 referees suck-that was a terrible no call on the pick to free the wr

    That's a Steelers staple, they've run that play for years. The key is the picker, all discreet. Not too many refs ever call it, unless it's run by Cle, Detroit, Oakland, or Buffalo.

  • Amazing analysis, Hoorta. Two years, two BCS bowl games against Bama's top defense, puts up over 450 yards of offense in both national title games. You gotta give him a better than "average" rating and "shades of JF". He's going to go top 5 ... probably top 3 ... and maybe #1

    @frenchie said:

    Amazing analysis, Hoorta. Two years, two BCS bowl games against Bama's top defense, puts up over 450 yards of offense in both national title games. You gotta give him a better than "average" rating and "shades of JF". He's going to go top 5 ... probably top 3 ... and maybe #1

    If the Browns draft him, I'll puke.

  • Watched Allen soak up several double teams last night that he should not have been tasked with taking.

  • Watched Allen soak up several double teams last night that he should not have been tasked with taking.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Watched Allen soak up several double teams last night that he should not have been tasked with taking.

    Welcome to the world of Myles Garrett Mr. Allen. 😆