Top Draft Needs of Teams
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And if you click on this within that link, well you get a different take. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000776348/article/mock-draft-10-myles-garrett-goes-no-1-to-browns
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And if you click on this within that link, well you get a different take. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000776348/article/mock-draft-10-myles-garrett-goes-no-1-to-browns
And if you click on this within that link, well you get a different take. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000776348/article/mock-draft-10-myles-garrett-goes-no-1-to-browns
A mock draft is different from a list of priority needs. The item I linked said that the first 3 teams drafting have a QB as their biggest need. It doesn't propose that all three teams take a QB.
While it may be all well and good to say that the Browns should select player X....it is because that is who the writer of the mock thinks should go first, because of talent, etc.
But, a defensive end is NOT the biggest need of the Cleveland Browns. We have young players Ogbah/Nassib/Cooper etc. at that spot. It is a fairly well armed spot on this team....comparatively. (not that DE or any other spot can't use improvement).
Our defensive backfield is in worse shape than our DL. A spot along the OL is worse. The QB spot is worse.
We might take the DE because of his theoretical talent, and if he works out, great. But those other spots would still continue to be greater needs.
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BPA-I'll preach it all day. Don't jump for positions of need. Let the player rise to the team. It's not that we don't actually have plenty of places to land with BPA that this team could use desperately. And our woeful # of sacks and QB pressures speaks for itself.
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BPA-I'll preach it all day. Don't jump for positions of need. Let the player rise to the team. It's not that we don't actually have plenty of places to land with BPA that this team could use desperately. And our woeful # of sacks and QB pressures speaks for itself.
BPA-I'll preach it all day. Don't jump for positions of need. Let the player rise to the team. It's not that we don't actually have plenty of places to land with BPA that this team could use desperately. And our woeful # of sacks and QB pressures speaks for itself.
This
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BPA-I'll preach it all day. Don't jump for positions of need. Let the player rise to the team. It's not that we don't actually have plenty of places to land with BPA that this team could use desperately. And our woeful # of sacks and QB pressures speaks for itself.
BPA-I'll preach it all day. Don't jump for positions of need. Let the player rise to the team. It's not that we don't actually have plenty of places to land with BPA that this team could use desperately. And our woeful # of sacks and QB pressures speaks for itself.
^^^ This. In spades.
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BPA-I'll preach it all day. Don't jump for positions of need. Let the player rise to the team. It's not that we don't actually have plenty of places to land with BPA that this team could use desperately. And our woeful # of sacks and QB pressures speaks for itself.
BPA-I'll preach it all day. Don't jump for positions of need. Let the player rise to the team. It's not that we don't actually have plenty of places to land with BPA that this team could use desperately. And our woeful # of sacks and QB pressures speaks for itself.
Then you contradict yourself a bit. On the one hand you say....go for BPA, then in then next you say "go for the need because of our poor pressure". So, which is it.
With this caveat: It is not my opinion necessarily that the BPA is in fact a defensive player.
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if you strictly by BPA, then who seems like more a perenial All-pro elite player...
Jamal Adams, Hooker, or Garrett? When you have a pro bowl tackle, and a fine RT, why
would you ignore some desperate needs in the process of deciding who to draft?
You'd draft the top player in the draft even if he was a LT ?
I'm not sold on Garrett being that pass rush solution. Maybe he is. But pass rush won't matter when the
qb can throw to a wide open te or wr in one second. Ya need some balance there.
Need a dynamic safety at FS. Look at the depth chart. Need a taller shut down corner, Boddy-Calhoun's size
limits him.
Maybe the BPA ends up being an offensive player, that not many have heard of yet. BPA is only part of the pick
appraisal. If you had to pick between Adams and Garrett, how do you figure which is the BPA when
they play different positions?
Meanwhile, this kid can play..interesting article.
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BPA-I'll preach it all day. Don't jump for positions of need. Let the player rise to the team. It's not that we don't actually have plenty of places to land with BPA that this team could use desperately. And our woeful # of sacks and QB pressures speaks for itself.
Then you contradict yourself a bit. On the one hand you say....go for BPA, then in then next you say "go for the need because of our poor pressure". So, which is it.
With this caveat: It is not my opinion necessarily that the BPA is in fact a defensive player.
Then you contradict yourself a bit. On the one hand you say....go for BPA, then in then next you say "go for the need because of our poor pressure". So, which is it.
With this caveat: It is not my opinion necessarily that the BPA is in fact a defensive player.
Not a contradiction at all. I'm merely pointing out that BPA @ #1 overall happens to fill one of those many glaring needs. The player rises to the team. 1+1=2.
Edit: And the reason I gave the info on that need is that you usually leave it out or try to argue that who we have in Nassib, Ogbah, etc. are just fine. If they were we would not be so woeful as a defensive pressure team.
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if you strictly by BPA, then who seems like more a perenial All-pro elite player...
Jamal Adams, Hooker, or Garrett? When you have a pro bowl tackle, and a fine RT, why
would you ignore some desperate needs in the process of deciding who to draft?
You'd draft the top player in the draft even if he was a LT ?
I'm not sold on Garrett being that pass rush solution. Maybe he is. But pass rush won't matter when the
qb can throw to a wide open te or wr in one second. Ya need some balance there.
Need a dynamic safety at FS. Look at the depth chart. Need a taller shut down corner, Boddy-Calhoun's size
limits him.
Maybe the BPA ends up being an offensive player, that not many have heard of yet. BPA is only part of the pick
appraisal. If you had to pick between Adams and Garrett, how do you figure which is the BPA when
they play different positions?
Meanwhile, this kid can play..interesting article.
if you strictly by BPA, then who seems like more a perenial All-pro elite player...
Jamal Adams, Hooker, or Garrett? When you have a pro bowl tackle, and a fine RT, why
would you ignore some desperate needs in the process of deciding who to draft?
You'd draft the top player in the draft even if he was a LT ?
I'm not sold on Garrett being that pass rush solution. Maybe he is. But pass rush won't matter when the
qb can throw to a wide open te or wr in one second. Ya need some balance there.
Need a dynamic safety at FS. Look at the depth chart. Need a taller shut down corner, Boddy-Calhoun's size
limits him.
Maybe the BPA ends up being an offensive player, that not many have heard of yet. BPA is only part of the pick
appraisal. If you had to pick between Adams and Garrett, how do you figure which is the BPA when
they play different positions?
Meanwhile, this kid can play..interesting article.
Interesting commentary. From what I've gathered Garrett is the BPA at #1. However, there's a strong argument that can be made for Leonard Fournette. Defensive ends might have longer NFL lifespans than running backs. Does one then consider potential length of service as a factor in determining the value of a player? If the #1 ranked BPA plays a position with an average NFL lifespan of 3.5 years, and the #2 ranked BPA plays a position with an average NFL lifespan of 6.5 years...which one is truly more valuable?
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if you strictly by BPA, then who seems like more a perenial All-pro elite player...
Jamal Adams, Hooker, or Garrett? When you have a pro bowl tackle, and a fine RT, why
would you ignore some desperate needs in the process of deciding who to draft?
You'd draft the top player in the draft even if he was a LT ?
I'm not sold on Garrett being that pass rush solution. Maybe he is. But pass rush won't matter when the
qb can throw to a wide open te or wr in one second. Ya need some balance there.
Need a dynamic safety at FS. Look at the depth chart. Need a taller shut down corner, Boddy-Calhoun's size
limits him.
Maybe the BPA ends up being an offensive player, that not many have heard of yet. BPA is only part of the pick
appraisal. If you had to pick between Adams and Garrett, how do you figure which is the BPA when
they play different positions?
Meanwhile, this kid can play..interesting article.
Interesting commentary. From what I've gathered Garrett is the BPA at #1. However, there's a strong argument that can be made for Leonard Fournette. Defensive ends might have longer NFL lifespans than running backs. Does one then consider potential length of service as a factor in determining the value of a player? If the #1 ranked BPA plays a position with an average NFL lifespan of 3.5 years, and the #2 ranked BPA plays a position with an average NFL lifespan of 6.5 years...which one is truly more valuable?
Interesting commentary. From what I've gathered Garrett is the BPA at #1. However, there's a strong argument that can be made for Leonard Fournette. Defensive ends might have longer NFL lifespans than running backs. Does one then consider potential length of service as a factor in determining the value of a player? If the #1 ranked BPA plays a position with an average NFL lifespan of 3.5 years, and the #2 ranked BPA plays a position with an average NFL lifespan of 6.5 years...which one is truly more valuable?
The All-Pro future HOFer that lasts 13 years for the Browns, Myles Garrett.
Shame on me. Could not resist the bait. Here fishy, fishy.
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I'll take Fournette and Trubisky,
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Of the 12 teams that made the playoffs only one (Cowboys) had a first round running back playing for them.
Just no.
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SB Nation has their mock draft looking like this:
1. Browns Garrett DE
2. 49ers Trubisky QB
3. Bears Watson QB
4. Jags Allen DE
5. Titans Hooker S
6. Jets Kizer QB
7. Chargers Jamal Adams S
8. Panthers Fournette RB
9. Bengals Mike Williams WR
10. Bills Marlon Humphries CB
12. Browns Pepper S
Forget the Trubisky v. Garett or Allen debate. I would shit glass if we took Peppers at 12.
Forget the Trubisky v. Garett or Allen debate. I would shit glass if we took Peppers at 12.
Out of excitement, right?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
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Forget the Trubisky v. Garett or Allen debate. I would shit glass if we took Peppers at 12.
Out of excitement, right?
Out of excitement, right?
Excitement glass.
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I just got a post card from Linus at 22 Pumpkin Patch Blvd telling me not to forget about Josh Gordon.
You sure that wasn't from Lucy reminding you we are getting close to fall football?
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You sure that wasn't from Lucy reminding you we are getting close to fall football?
Yes. But she did send me a video of her holding for all of Charlie Brown's place kicks asking if I would forward it to Tabor. Heaven help us!
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Crowell
WK - OPP - Rush Yds - Rush TD
1 @PHI, 62 1
2 BAL, 133 1
3 @MIA, 79 -
4 @WAS, 120 1
5 NE, 22 -
6 @TEN, 16 -
7 @CIN, 63 1
8 NYJ, 29 1
9 DAL, 4 -
10 @BAL, 23 -
11 PIT, 10 -
12 NYG, 44 -
13 Bye - - - - -
14 CIN, 113 -
15 @BUF, 28 -
16 SD, 54 2
17 @PIT, 152 -
This sucks, because I love Crowell- he gives it every single thing he's got when he plays.
My ideal scenario would be:
Trubisky as QB ... Kessler as backup ... McCown as Mentor/QB Coach
Leonard Fournette as our 3 down RB ... Crowell stays on as #2 ... Duke as a special/situational
Gosh Gordon returns and Pryor re-signs to make a combo for the ages and Coleman adds a dimension that makes Fournette's job very easy. If the Defense sell out to stop Fournette they leave Gordon/Pryor/Coleman 'wide-open'!
If the Defense tries to spread the coverage it opens gorges in the field for Fournette to run through; nearly untouched into the second level, he then becomes a "LINEBACKER" (bigger than Reuben Foster) with 4.4 speed, incredible power and amazing balance... It blows my mind that you guys do not see this!
We fix the line OL ... It doesn't have to be the best OL in the NFL, we nearly had that once and how many games did we win? ... It just has to work ...
We fix the OL in FA and the draft. The line may even begin to just fix itself through attrition and continuity ...
Before you judge me and jump to rash conclusions. Do yourself a favor and watch the video... What you need to remember is he is not even a ROOKIE yet, he's only going to get better! A Stronger/Faster Fournette ... it's not hard to imagine him being the best runningback in the NFL for a long time.
I just had a thought. Imagine if we had Trubisky, Fournette, Gordon, Pryor and Coleman.
The Defense will be better under Williams with coaching alone. But, with an Offense like that... that would make them better as well because our opponents will need to put up like 40 points a game on our Defense to beat us. period.
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