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  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Give it up snowflakes, Trump IS YOUR PRESIDENT.

    Hitting that sauce a bit early, I see.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Hitting that sauce a bit early, I see.

    Lost in the Sauce with Johnny Manziel.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Give it up snowflakes, Trump IS YOUR PRESIDENT.

    Hitting that sauce a bit early, I see.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Hitting that sauce a bit early, I see.

    Shut up snowflake.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Hitting that sauce a bit early, I see.

    Shut up snowflake.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Shut up snowflake.

    Excellent debating skills. Apparently you can't think of anything substantial to say about why Devos should be the Secretary of Education.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Hitting that sauce a bit early, I see.

    Shut up snowflake.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Shut up snowflake.

    Luh you too, boo.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Shut up snowflake.

    Excellent debating skills. Apparently you can't think of anything substantial to say about why Devos should be the Secretary of Education.

    @osiris said:

    Excellent debating skills. Apparently you can't think of anything substantial to say about why Devos should be the Secretary of Education.

    This mofo is a basement dwelling kid trolling the obscure parts of the Internet claiming to be an old man. You know any 60 year olds that troll the web? I sure as fuck don't. It's creepy as shit.

  • Breaking news, Trump's cabinet pick for department of agriculture never worked on a farm. Booooooooooo, lets smash the windows out of this building and light something on fire.

    It's not anything new. I would not have to go back far to find a cabinet pick with no experience other than being a career politician. How about Bills pick for Dept. Of agriculture? Law degree, career politician.

  • If Trump is who he is in real life, I'm sure getting rid of someone that isn't performing wouldn't bother him in the bit

  • Breaking news, Trump's cabinet pick for department of agriculture never worked on a farm. Booooooooooo, lets smash the windows out of this building and light something on fire.

    It's not anything new. I would not have to go back far to find a cabinet pick with no experience other than being a career politician. How about Bills pick for Dept. Of agriculture? Law degree, career politician.

    @erie-dawg said:

    Breaking news, Trump's cabinet pick for department of agriculture never worked on a farm. Booooooooooo, lets smash the windows out of this building and light something on fire.

    It's not anything new. I would not have to go back far to find a cabinet pick with no experience other than being a career politician. How about Bills pick for Dept. Of agriculture? Law degree, career politician.

    So... you're saying you have to go back almost 20 years then? That's quite a while.

  • great. now we have liberals wanting age discrimination on the net. I'm retired, I have more time

    in the winter.

    Meanwhile, the liberal bitching about Devos -

    "True. DeVos does have a degree, just not in education; she graduated from Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Michigan with a bachelor's degree in business administration and political science. She wouldn't be the first Secretary of Education to take office without a degree in the subject, however. Margaret Spellings, George W. Bush's education secretary from 2005 to 2009, had a degree in political science. Bill Clinton's education secretary, Richard W. Riley, had a law degree."

    "According to a DeVos family spokesperson interviewed by The Detroit News, members of the family have "given millions of dollars" to the Grand Rapids Public Schools over the years."

    "Invested $200 million in Christian schools and organizations?

    Undetermined. Through their nonprofit organization, the Dick and Betsy DeVos Family Foundation, Betsy and her husband have given tens of millions of dollars to a great many schools and organizations, some of which are identified as "Christian." For 12 years running, for example, the foundation donated between $200,000 and $300,000 annually to Potter's House, a nonprofit "Christ-centered" elementary school serving underprivileged children in Grand Rapids, Michigan. But they have also contributed large amounts to the Van Andel Institute (VAI), scientific research and education facility, and the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, among many others."

    "She currently chairs the American Federation for Children, an organization that promotes "school choice" in the form of education vouchers, scholarship tax credits, and the like.

    “I am honored to accept this responsibility to work with the President-elect on his vision to make American education great again,” DeVos said:

    The status quo in education is not acceptable. Together, we can work to make transformational change that ensures every student in America has the opportunity to fulfill his or her highest potential."
  • So liberals and the NEA...oops, same thing....

    want the new ed sec to be one of them.

    well, boo hoo, STFU. Being one of them is actually

    a disqualifier. Did anybody objecting read about her,

    in the link that Steve posted???

    To me, she is PERFECT for the position. Elections have

    conseqences, but the liberals loved it the last eight years,

    hate it now and want it to not be true.

    and no, you don't get a participation trophy for objecting to her with nonsense.

  • @erie-dawg said:

    Breaking news, Trump's cabinet pick for department of agriculture never worked on a farm. Booooooooooo, lets smash the windows out of this building and light something on fire.

    It's not anything new. I would not have to go back far to find a cabinet pick with no experience other than being a career politician. How about Bills pick for Dept. Of agriculture? Law degree, career politician.

    So... you're saying you have to go back almost 20 years then? That's quite a while.

    @tiamat63 said:

    So... you're saying you have to go back almost 20 years then? That's quite a while.

    No probably not, please research if you need. Don't just stop at the highest level. Go to the state level, then the local.
  • Breaking news, Trump's cabinet pick for department of agriculture never worked on a farm. Booooooooooo, lets smash the windows out of this building and light something on fire.

    It's not anything new. I would not have to go back far to find a cabinet pick with no experience other than being a career politician. How about Bills pick for Dept. Of agriculture? Law degree, career politician.

    @erie-dawg said:

    Breaking news, Trump's cabinet pick for department of agriculture never worked on a farm. Booooooooooo, lets smash the windows out of this building and light something on fire.

    It's not anything new. I would not have to go back far to find a cabinet pick with no experience other than being a career politician. How about Bills pick for Dept. Of agriculture? Law degree, career politician.

    @calfoxwc said:

    great. now we have liberals wanting age discrimination on the net. I'm retired, I have more time

    in the winter.

    Meanwhile, the liberal bitching about Devos -

    "True. DeVos does have a degree, just not in education; she graduated from Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Michigan with a bachelor's degree in business administration and political science. She wouldn't be the first Secretary of Education to take office without a degree in the subject, however. Margaret Spellings, George W. Bush's education secretary from 2005 to 2009, had a degree in political science. Bill Clinton's education secretary, Richard W. Riley, had a law degree."

    "According to a DeVos family spokesperson interviewed by The Detroit News, members of the family have "given millions of dollars" to the Grand Rapids Public Schools over the years."

    "Invested $200 million in Christian schools and organizations?

    Undetermined. Through their nonprofit organization, the Dick and Betsy DeVos Family Foundation, Betsy and her husband have given tens of millions of dollars to a great many schools and organizations, some of which are identified as "Christian." For 12 years running, for example, the foundation donated between $200,000 and $300,000 annually to Potter's House, a nonprofit "Christ-centered" elementary school serving underprivileged children in Grand Rapids, Michigan. But they have also contributed large amounts to the Van Andel Institute (VAI), scientific research and education facility, and the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, among many others."

    "She currently chairs the American Federation for Children, an organization that promotes "school choice" in the form of education vouchers, scholarship tax credits, and the like.

    “I am honored to accept this responsibility to work with the President-elect on his vision to make American education great again,” DeVos said:

    The status quo in education is not acceptable. Together, we can work to make transformational change that ensures every student in America has the opportunity to fulfill his or her highest potential."

    So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research!

  • great. now we have liberals wanting age discrimination on the net. I'm retired, I have more time

    in the winter.

    Meanwhile, the liberal bitching about Devos -

    "True. DeVos does have a degree, just not in education; she graduated from Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Michigan with a bachelor's degree in business administration and political science. She wouldn't be the first Secretary of Education to take office without a degree in the subject, however. Margaret Spellings, George W. Bush's education secretary from 2005 to 2009, had a degree in political science. Bill Clinton's education secretary, Richard W. Riley, had a law degree."

    "According to a DeVos family spokesperson interviewed by The Detroit News, members of the family have "given millions of dollars" to the Grand Rapids Public Schools over the years."

    "Invested $200 million in Christian schools and organizations?

    Undetermined. Through their nonprofit organization, the Dick and Betsy DeVos Family Foundation, Betsy and her husband have given tens of millions of dollars to a great many schools and organizations, some of which are identified as "Christian." For 12 years running, for example, the foundation donated between $200,000 and $300,000 annually to Potter's House, a nonprofit "Christ-centered" elementary school serving underprivileged children in Grand Rapids, Michigan. But they have also contributed large amounts to the Van Andel Institute (VAI), scientific research and education facility, and the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, among many others."

    "She currently chairs the American Federation for Children, an organization that promotes "school choice" in the form of education vouchers, scholarship tax credits, and the like.

    “I am honored to accept this responsibility to work with the President-elect on his vision to make American education great again,” DeVos said:

    The status quo in education is not acceptable. Together, we can work to make transformational change that ensures every student in America has the opportunity to fulfill his or her highest potential."

    @calfoxwc said:

    great. now we have liberals wanting age discrimination on the net. I'm retired, I have more time

    in the winter.

    The fuck are you blabbering about?

  • @erie-dawg said:

    Breaking news, Trump's cabinet pick for department of agriculture never worked on a farm. Booooooooooo, lets smash the windows out of this building and light something on fire.

    It's not anything new. I would not have to go back far to find a cabinet pick with no experience other than being a career politician. How about Bills pick for Dept. Of agriculture? Law degree, career politician.

    @calfoxwc said:

    great. now we have liberals wanting age discrimination on the net. I'm retired, I have more time

    in the winter.

    Meanwhile, the liberal bitching about Devos -

    "True. DeVos does have a degree, just not in education; she graduated from Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Michigan with a bachelor's degree in business administration and political science. She wouldn't be the first Secretary of Education to take office without a degree in the subject, however. Margaret Spellings, George W. Bush's education secretary from 2005 to 2009, had a degree in political science. Bill Clinton's education secretary, Richard W. Riley, had a law degree."

    "According to a DeVos family spokesperson interviewed by The Detroit News, members of the family have "given millions of dollars" to the Grand Rapids Public Schools over the years."

    "Invested $200 million in Christian schools and organizations?

    Undetermined. Through their nonprofit organization, the Dick and Betsy DeVos Family Foundation, Betsy and her husband have given tens of millions of dollars to a great many schools and organizations, some of which are identified as "Christian." For 12 years running, for example, the foundation donated between $200,000 and $300,000 annually to Potter's House, a nonprofit "Christ-centered" elementary school serving underprivileged children in Grand Rapids, Michigan. But they have also contributed large amounts to the Van Andel Institute (VAI), scientific research and education facility, and the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, among many others."

    "She currently chairs the American Federation for Children, an organization that promotes "school choice" in the form of education vouchers, scholarship tax credits, and the like.

    “I am honored to accept this responsibility to work with the President-elect on his vision to make American education great again,” DeVos said:

    The status quo in education is not acceptable. Together, we can work to make transformational change that ensures every student in America has the opportunity to fulfill his or her highest potential."

    So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research!

    @osiris said:

    Who did I attack? Re read what I posted.

    So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research!

  • @calfoxwc said:

    great. now we have liberals wanting age discrimination on the net. I'm retired, I have more time

    in the winter.

    The fuck are you blabbering about?

    @tiamat63 said:

    The fuck are you blabbering about?

    "This mofo is a basement dwelling kid trolling the obscure parts of the Internet claiming to be an old man. You know any 60 year olds that troll the web? I sure as fuck don't" Tiamsies

  • @osiris said:

    Who did I attack? Re read what I posted.

    So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research!

    @erie-dawg said:

    @osiris said:

    Who did I attack? Re read what I posted.

    So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research!

    The 'attack' term was meant more for Cal, but you did criticize Clinton's pick from 20 years ago, which is fine, but irrelevant. It's basically arguing that the precedent makes it okay to appoint someone with no experience. I thought Trump was supposed to be the outsider who was going to do things differently in Washington? So how is appointing someone with zero qualifications different than doing something you claim has been happening in Washington for decades?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    The fuck are you blabbering about?

    "This mofo is a basement dwelling kid trolling the obscure parts of the Internet claiming to be an old man. You know any 60 year olds that troll the web? I sure as fuck don't" Tiamsies

    @calfoxwc said:

    "This mofo is a basement dwelling kid trolling the obscure parts of the Internet claiming to be an old man. You know any 60 year olds that troll the web? I sure as fuck don't" Tiamsies

    And your point is....? First off, I"m neither liberal nor age discriminating. I'm calling out an obvious troll.

    Calling me liberal is like saying I'm a Steelers fan because I agree that Ben is a HoF caliber QB. Your logic (not surprisingly) doesn't hold up. But please, carry on with another long winded post I'll be sure not to read.

  • So he isn't allowed to do what past administration's have done because a new precedent is set?

  • So he isn't allowed to do what past administration's have done because a new precedent is set?

    @erie-dawg said:

    So he isn't allowed to do what past administration's have done because a new precedent is set?

    Trump is free to do (almost) as he damn near pleases. Doesn't make him exempt from appropriate criticism.

    However he and his ilk are the ones that ran on a platform of being the outsiders of Washington and would make sensible, everyman kind of decisions correcting the course of what HAS been the norm. This is not that.

    No?

    edit: Unless you would hire a plumber whose main background is IT work?

  • @osiris said:

    Excellent debating skills. Apparently you can't think of anything substantial to say about why Devos should be the Secretary of Education.

    This mofo is a basement dwelling kid trolling the obscure parts of the Internet claiming to be an old man. You know any 60 year olds that troll the web? I sure as fuck don't. It's creepy as shit.

    @tiamat63 said:

    This mofo is a basement dwelling kid trolling the obscure parts of the Internet claiming to be an old man. You know any 60 year olds that troll the web? I sure as fuck don't. It's creepy as shit.

    You're creepy as shit. Some punk. I bet you shave your legs.