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  • FlugelF Flugel

    @tiamat63 said:

    You might want to consider the offense he plays in before you think he sees the field 'extremely well'.

    As opposed to other QBs in this draft locking onto primary targets of their pre-determined passes in the huddle? McNabb played in the Veer Option which was very similar to the style of offense Favre played in before both guys went on to perfect WCOs. Rodgers got stereotyped for being a Tedford system QB and I'm guessing it's why he slid down into the 20s.

    My question to you is which of the top QB prospects this year were asked to read progressions?

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    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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    @flugel said:

    As opposed to other QBs in this draft locking onto primary targets of their pre-determined passes in the huddle? McNabb played in the Veer Option which was very similar to the style of offense Favre played in before both guys went on to perfect WCOs. Rodgers got stereotyped for being a Tedford system QB and I'm guessing it's why he slid down into the 20s.

    My question to you is which of the top QB prospects this year were asked to read progressions?

    Ultimately I can't think of QB's that aren't asked to try and make it to their #2 if possible (save for Pat White)

    However that doesn't mean that they do or can.

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      @hx214 said:

      What's the upside for him to play?

      How much higher could his stock be after the last two games he played?

      What if something dumb happens in the game and he gets hurt?

      Pure business decision here.

      The upside for him is that he gets to work for a week with the coaching staff of the team with the number one pick. If he makes a good enough impression, Hue could come away saying "wow, this is the guy for us" and he goes first overall. At the moment his rating is all over the place, from first overall in a couple of places down to second round. He could solidify himself as a top pick and make lots of money.

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      hx214H hx214 wrote on last edited by
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      @gftchris said:

      The upside for him is that he gets to work for a week with the coaching staff of the team with the number one pick. If he makes a good enough impression, Hue could come away saying "wow, this is the guy for us" and he goes first overall. At the moment his rating is all over the place, from first overall in a couple of places down to second round. He could solidify himself as a top pick and make lots of money.

      There is way more to lose than to gain.

      Sucks for us, but I can't get behind the "bad attitude" tag.

      Now, had he lost to Ohio State or something, ya then you go.

      Dude has his stock at the zenith. No where to go but down. The unknown in this situation probably helps his allure.

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      • nickersN nickers

        Fuck him.. theres other QB's

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        @nickers said:

        Fuck him.. theres other QB's

        Other....better QBs. (Do you think that MT would jump at the chance to play for Hue if he were eligible?)

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        • Tour2maT Tour2ma

          We can't afford to "fuck him", if he's the real deal...

          Fortunately for you, I don't think he is... so you can plow away, nickerooo...

          P.S. Watson made the right choice...

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @tour2ma said:

          We can't afford to "fuck him", if he's the real deal...

          Fortunately for you, I don't think he is... so you can plow away, nickerooo...

          P.S. Watson made the right choice...

          He will get drafted in the Top 5 or 6 anyway. So not playing will not be that big of a deal.

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          • FlugelF Flugel

            @tiamat63 said:

            You might want to consider the offense he plays in before you think he sees the field 'extremely well'.

            As opposed to other QBs in this draft locking onto primary targets of their pre-determined passes in the huddle? McNabb played in the Veer Option which was very similar to the style of offense Favre played in before both guys went on to perfect WCOs. Rodgers got stereotyped for being a Tedford system QB and I'm guessing it's why he slid down into the 20s.

            My question to you is which of the top QB prospects this year were asked to read progressions?

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @flugel said:

            As opposed to other QBs in this draft locking onto primary targets of their pre-determined passes in the huddle? McNabb played in the Veer Option which was very similar to the style of offense Favre played in before both guys went on to perfect WCOs. Rodgers got stereotyped for being a Tedford system QB and I'm guessing it's why he slid down into the 20s.

            My question to you is which of the top QB prospects this year were asked to read progressions?

            MT.....and I completely disagree that he locked on to his primary target. On the rare occasions ...and they were rare, that his O Line gave him time, he saw the field very well. Its just that in 95 times out of 100 he had about 2 seconds to throw the ball. before the heat came down on him. And he withstood that very well for the most part.

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              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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              Is Mt not eligible to play?

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                Is Mt not eligible to play?

                WSS

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @westside-steve said:

                Is Mt not eligible to play?

                WSS

                Apparently not under the Senior Bowl rules. Not sure what that rule entails.

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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Is Mt not eligible to play?

                  WSS

                  Apparently not under the Senior Bowl rules. Not sure what that rule entails.

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                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Apparently not under the Senior Bowl rules. Not sure what that rule entails.

                  Being a senior? Watson was allowed because he'd already graduated which is presumably another way in. Trubisky I guess is neither.

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                    D domcucch1994 wrote on last edited by
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                    Hue will be gone after this season, fuck what he has to say I want to see results damnit!

                    Not 1 and mothafucking 15!

                    GET IT TOGETHER HUE! BE THE GLUE! BITCH!

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                    • gftChrisG gftChris

                      @the-gipper said:

                      Apparently not under the Senior Bowl rules. Not sure what that rule entails.

                      Being a senior? Watson was allowed because he'd already graduated which is presumably another way in. Trubisky I guess is neither.

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                      @gftchris said:

                      Being a senior? Watson was allowed because he'd already graduated which is presumably another way in. Trubisky I guess is neither.

                      Except that I heard that Trubisky has also graduated. No?

                      (or, is he scheduled to graduate in spring?)

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                        @gftchris said:

                        Being a senior? Watson was allowed because he'd already graduated which is presumably another way in. Trubisky I guess is neither.

                        Except that I heard that Trubisky has also graduated. No?

                        (or, is he scheduled to graduate in spring?)

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        @the-gipper said:

                        Except that I heard that Trubisky has also graduated. No?

                        (or, is he scheduled to graduate in spring?)

                        He is a class or two away from graduation.

                        http://northcarolina.247sports.com/Bolt/Trubisky-on-his-future-NFL-draft-decision-50247128

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                          OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                          I actually see this as a good thing for the Browns. Personally, I don't want Watson, though I don't think he did this to slight the Browns. I hope this does hurt his drat stock enough that if the Browns DO really want him, he's available at #12, or even better, #33. I hope it puts him out of contention for the #1 pick because we need to take Garrett or Allen there. Personally I'd rather the Browns took Trubisky or Kizer.

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                            stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                            If we take watson #1 i'll be enraged.....

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                            • OsirisO Osiris

                              I actually see this as a good thing for the Browns. Personally, I don't want Watson, though I don't think he did this to slight the Browns. I hope this does hurt his drat stock enough that if the Browns DO really want him, he's available at #12, or even better, #33. I hope it puts him out of contention for the #1 pick because we need to take Garrett or Allen there. Personally I'd rather the Browns took Trubisky or Kizer.

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                              @osiris said:

                              I actually see this as a good thing for the Browns. Personally, I don't want Watson, though I don't think he did this to slight the Browns. I hope this does hurt his drat stock enough that if the Browns DO really want him, he's available at #12, or even better, #33. I hope it puts him out of contention for the #1 pick because we need to take Garrett or Allen there. Personally I'd rather the Browns took Trubisky or Kizer.

                              Both Trubisky and Watson will go Top 5. If not, I owe someone a pitcher of Margaritas. (If Trub goes top 5, Stan owes me....but I am not sure about both of them....perhaps Z.)

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                              • gftChrisG gftChris

                                @hx214 said:

                                What's the upside for him to play?

                                How much higher could his stock be after the last two games he played?

                                What if something dumb happens in the game and he gets hurt?

                                Pure business decision here.

                                The upside for him is that he gets to work for a week with the coaching staff of the team with the number one pick. If he makes a good enough impression, Hue could come away saying "wow, this is the guy for us" and he goes first overall. At the moment his rating is all over the place, from first overall in a couple of places down to second round. He could solidify himself as a top pick and make lots of money.

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                @gftchris said:

                                The upside for him is that he gets to work for a week with the coaching staff of the team with the number one pick. If he makes a good enough impression, Hue could come away saying "wow, this is the guy for us" and he goes first overall. At the moment his rating is all over the place, from first overall in a couple of places down to second round. He could solidify himself as a top pick and make lots of money.

                                And the downside is we like him but not at #1 so once he falls past us other teams begin to wonder what we saw that we did not love... and that's if we go D with our #1. Just imagine if we went with a different QB?

                                The #1 overall is the best payday in the draft... for 4 years, but the 5th year option is not desirable as it only delays the biggest payday any quality player will get... his 2nd contract... one that dwarfs any rookie deal.

                                @westside-steve said:

                                That's probably true for his pocketbook his career and his draft status. That doesn't correlate to what is best for the Cleveland Browns. And as unfair as it might be that's where my loyalty lies.

                                And that's why we love you... that and the kilts...

                                @gftchris said:

                                Being a senior?

                                Doh!

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                                  @gftchris said:

                                  The upside for him is that he gets to work for a week with the coaching staff of the team with the number one pick. If he makes a good enough impression, Hue could come away saying "wow, this is the guy for us" and he goes first overall. At the moment his rating is all over the place, from first overall in a couple of places down to second round. He could solidify himself as a top pick and make lots of money.

                                  And the downside is we like him but not at #1 so once he falls past us other teams begin to wonder what we saw that we did not love... and that's if we go D with our #1. Just imagine if we went with a different QB?

                                  The #1 overall is the best payday in the draft... for 4 years, but the 5th year option is not desirable as it only delays the biggest payday any quality player will get... his 2nd contract... one that dwarfs any rookie deal.

                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  That's probably true for his pocketbook his career and his draft status. That doesn't correlate to what is best for the Cleveland Browns. And as unfair as it might be that's where my loyalty lies.

                                  And that's why we love you... that and the kilts...

                                  @gftchris said:

                                  Being a senior?

                                  Doh!

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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  And the downside is we like him but not at #1 so once he falls past us other teams begin to wonder what we saw that we did not love... and that's if we go D with our #1. Just imagine if we went with a different QB?

                                  SO it comes down to - how confident are you in your abilities? Do you feel like you can go in and knock the socks off of the coaching staff? If not you don't deserve to be an NFL QB...

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                                    @osiris said:

                                    I actually see this as a good thing for the Browns. Personally, I don't want Watson, though I don't think he did this to slight the Browns. I hope this does hurt his drat stock enough that if the Browns DO really want him, he's available at #12, or even better, #33. I hope it puts him out of contention for the #1 pick because we need to take Garrett or Allen there. Personally I'd rather the Browns took Trubisky or Kizer.

                                    Both Trubisky and Watson will go Top 5. If not, I owe someone a pitcher of Margaritas. (If Trub goes top 5, Stan owes me....but I am not sure about both of them....perhaps Z.)

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                                    OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    Both Trubisky and Watson will go Top 5. If not, I owe someone a pitcher of Margaritas. (If Trub goes top 5, Stan owes me....but I am not sure about both of them....perhaps Z.)

                                    Right now it looks that way but I don't think the Browns take either at #1, which leaves the 49ers and Bears. Either of those teams could end up with Garopolo, and a long shot but possibly Cousins or Romo.

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Both Trubisky and Watson will go Top 5. If not, I owe someone a pitcher of Margaritas. (If Trub goes top 5, Stan owes me....but I am not sure about both of them....perhaps Z.)

                                      Right now it looks that way but I don't think the Browns take either at #1, which leaves the 49ers and Bears. Either of those teams could end up with Garopolo, and a long shot but possibly Cousins or Romo.

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                                      stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                                      @osiris said:

                                      Right now it looks that way but I don't think the Browns take either at #1, which leaves the 49ers and Bears. Either of those teams could end up with Garopolo, and a long shot but possibly Cousins or Romo.

                                      myles garrett or trade down i think

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                                        @osiris said:

                                        Right now it looks that way but I don't think the Browns take either at #1, which leaves the 49ers and Bears. Either of those teams could end up with Garopolo, and a long shot but possibly Cousins or Romo.

                                        myles garrett or trade down i think

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                                        @stillmotion said:

                                        myles garrett or trade down i think

                                        I hope Garrett, I think Allen is a good possibility, too. I really hope they don't trade down, though. We need to start drafting some blue-chip impact players.

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                                          @stillmotion said:

                                          myles garrett or trade down i think

                                          I hope Garrett, I think Allen is a good possibility, too. I really hope they don't trade down, though. We need to start drafting some blue-chip impact players.

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                                          @osiris said:

                                          I hope Garrett, I think Allen is a good possibility, too. I really hope they don't trade down, though. We need to start drafting some blue-chip impact players.

                                          I'd be cool with Foster and Garrett

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