Bad attitude? Hue loves that...
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You might want to consider the offense he plays in before you think he sees the field 'extremely well'.
As opposed to other QBs in this draft locking onto primary targets of their pre-determined passes in the huddle? McNabb played in the Veer Option which was very similar to the style of offense Favre played in before both guys went on to perfect WCOs. Rodgers got stereotyped for being a Tedford system QB and I'm guessing it's why he slid down into the 20s.
My question to you is which of the top QB prospects this year were asked to read progressions?
As opposed to other QBs in this draft locking onto primary targets of their pre-determined passes in the huddle? McNabb played in the Veer Option which was very similar to the style of offense Favre played in before both guys went on to perfect WCOs. Rodgers got stereotyped for being a Tedford system QB and I'm guessing it's why he slid down into the 20s.
My question to you is which of the top QB prospects this year were asked to read progressions?
MT.....and I completely disagree that he locked on to his primary target. On the rare occasions ...and they were rare, that his O Line gave him time, he saw the field very well. Its just that in 95 times out of 100 he had about 2 seconds to throw the ball. before the heat came down on him. And he withstood that very well for the most part.
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Is Mt not eligible to play?
WSS
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Is Mt not eligible to play?
WSS
Is Mt not eligible to play?
WSS
Apparently not under the Senior Bowl rules. Not sure what that rule entails.
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Is Mt not eligible to play?
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Apparently not under the Senior Bowl rules. Not sure what that rule entails.
Apparently not under the Senior Bowl rules. Not sure what that rule entails.
Being a senior? Watson was allowed because he'd already graduated which is presumably another way in. Trubisky I guess is neither.
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Hue will be gone after this season, fuck what he has to say I want to see results damnit!
Not 1 and mothafucking 15!
GET IT TOGETHER HUE! BE THE GLUE! BITCH!
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Apparently not under the Senior Bowl rules. Not sure what that rule entails.
Being a senior? Watson was allowed because he'd already graduated which is presumably another way in. Trubisky I guess is neither.
Being a senior? Watson was allowed because he'd already graduated which is presumably another way in. Trubisky I guess is neither.
Except that I heard that Trubisky has also graduated. No?
(or, is he scheduled to graduate in spring?)
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Except that I heard that Trubisky has also graduated. No?
(or, is he scheduled to graduate in spring?)
He is a class or two away from graduation.
http://northcarolina.247sports.com/Bolt/Trubisky-on-his-future-NFL-draft-decision-50247128
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I actually see this as a good thing for the Browns. Personally, I don't want Watson, though I don't think he did this to slight the Browns. I hope this does hurt his drat stock enough that if the Browns DO really want him, he's available at #12, or even better, #33. I hope it puts him out of contention for the #1 pick because we need to take Garrett or Allen there. Personally I'd rather the Browns took Trubisky or Kizer.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
If we take watson #1 i'll be enraged.....
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I actually see this as a good thing for the Browns. Personally, I don't want Watson, though I don't think he did this to slight the Browns. I hope this does hurt his drat stock enough that if the Browns DO really want him, he's available at #12, or even better, #33. I hope it puts him out of contention for the #1 pick because we need to take Garrett or Allen there. Personally I'd rather the Browns took Trubisky or Kizer.
I actually see this as a good thing for the Browns. Personally, I don't want Watson, though I don't think he did this to slight the Browns. I hope this does hurt his drat stock enough that if the Browns DO really want him, he's available at #12, or even better, #33. I hope it puts him out of contention for the #1 pick because we need to take Garrett or Allen there. Personally I'd rather the Browns took Trubisky or Kizer.
Both Trubisky and Watson will go Top 5. If not, I owe someone a pitcher of Margaritas. (If Trub goes top 5, Stan owes me....but I am not sure about both of them....perhaps Z.)
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What's the upside for him to play?
How much higher could his stock be after the last two games he played?
What if something dumb happens in the game and he gets hurt?
Pure business decision here.
The upside for him is that he gets to work for a week with the coaching staff of the team with the number one pick. If he makes a good enough impression, Hue could come away saying "wow, this is the guy for us" and he goes first overall. At the moment his rating is all over the place, from first overall in a couple of places down to second round. He could solidify himself as a top pick and make lots of money.
The upside for him is that he gets to work for a week with the coaching staff of the team with the number one pick. If he makes a good enough impression, Hue could come away saying "wow, this is the guy for us" and he goes first overall. At the moment his rating is all over the place, from first overall in a couple of places down to second round. He could solidify himself as a top pick and make lots of money.
And the downside is we like him but not at #1 so once he falls past us other teams begin to wonder what we saw that we did not love... and that's if we go D with our #1. Just imagine if we went with a different QB?
The #1 overall is the best payday in the draft... for 4 years, but the 5th year option is not desirable as it only delays the biggest payday any quality player will get... his 2nd contract... one that dwarfs any rookie deal.
That's probably true for his pocketbook his career and his draft status. That doesn't correlate to what is best for the Cleveland Browns. And as unfair as it might be that's where my loyalty lies.
And that's why we love you... that and the kilts...
Being a senior?
Doh!
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The upside for him is that he gets to work for a week with the coaching staff of the team with the number one pick. If he makes a good enough impression, Hue could come away saying "wow, this is the guy for us" and he goes first overall. At the moment his rating is all over the place, from first overall in a couple of places down to second round. He could solidify himself as a top pick and make lots of money.
And the downside is we like him but not at #1 so once he falls past us other teams begin to wonder what we saw that we did not love... and that's if we go D with our #1. Just imagine if we went with a different QB?
The #1 overall is the best payday in the draft... for 4 years, but the 5th year option is not desirable as it only delays the biggest payday any quality player will get... his 2nd contract... one that dwarfs any rookie deal.
That's probably true for his pocketbook his career and his draft status. That doesn't correlate to what is best for the Cleveland Browns. And as unfair as it might be that's where my loyalty lies.
And that's why we love you... that and the kilts...
Being a senior?
Doh!
And the downside is we like him but not at #1 so once he falls past us other teams begin to wonder what we saw that we did not love... and that's if we go D with our #1. Just imagine if we went with a different QB?
SO it comes down to - how confident are you in your abilities? Do you feel like you can go in and knock the socks off of the coaching staff? If not you don't deserve to be an NFL QB...
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I actually see this as a good thing for the Browns. Personally, I don't want Watson, though I don't think he did this to slight the Browns. I hope this does hurt his drat stock enough that if the Browns DO really want him, he's available at #12, or even better, #33. I hope it puts him out of contention for the #1 pick because we need to take Garrett or Allen there. Personally I'd rather the Browns took Trubisky or Kizer.
Both Trubisky and Watson will go Top 5. If not, I owe someone a pitcher of Margaritas. (If Trub goes top 5, Stan owes me....but I am not sure about both of them....perhaps Z.)
Both Trubisky and Watson will go Top 5. If not, I owe someone a pitcher of Margaritas. (If Trub goes top 5, Stan owes me....but I am not sure about both of them....perhaps Z.)
Right now it looks that way but I don't think the Browns take either at #1, which leaves the 49ers and Bears. Either of those teams could end up with Garopolo, and a long shot but possibly Cousins or Romo.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
Both Trubisky and Watson will go Top 5. If not, I owe someone a pitcher of Margaritas. (If Trub goes top 5, Stan owes me....but I am not sure about both of them....perhaps Z.)
Right now it looks that way but I don't think the Browns take either at #1, which leaves the 49ers and Bears. Either of those teams could end up with Garopolo, and a long shot but possibly Cousins or Romo.
Right now it looks that way but I don't think the Browns take either at #1, which leaves the 49ers and Bears. Either of those teams could end up with Garopolo, and a long shot but possibly Cousins or Romo.
myles garrett or trade down i think
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myles garrett or trade down i think
I hope Garrett, I think Allen is a good possibility, too. I really hope they don't trade down, though. We need to start drafting some blue-chip impact players.
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myles garrett or trade down i think
I hope Garrett, I think Allen is a good possibility, too. I really hope they don't trade down, though. We need to start drafting some blue-chip impact players.
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Both Trubisky and Watson will go Top 5. If not, I owe someone a pitcher of Margaritas. (If Trub goes top 5, Stan owes me....but I am not sure about both of them....perhaps Z.)
Right now it looks that way but I don't think the Browns take either at #1, which leaves the 49ers and Bears. Either of those teams could end up with Garopolo, and a long shot but possibly Cousins or Romo.
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And the downside is we like him but not at #1 so once he falls past us other teams begin to wonder what we saw that we did not love... and that's if we go D with our #1. Just imagine if we went with a different QB?
SO it comes down to - how confident are you in your abilities? Do you feel like you can go in and knock the socks off of the coaching staff? If not you don't deserve to be an NFL QB...
SO it comes down to - how confident are you in your abilities? Do you feel like you can go in and knock the socks off of the coaching staff? If not you don't deserve to be an NFL QB...
Completely disagree... just as much confidence is shown by standing pat.
Plus Davos was live at the Sr. Bowl and, while this may fall under the category of "towing the line", he said Watson had 15 games of wear and tear on him and needed the time to heal up before preparing for the Combine. That's 15 games worth of tape vs. a gamble on 3 days of practice before a "bowl game".
Desahun...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
i think it was stupid to ask him. Makes the browns look like assholes. Hey you just won the nat champ by kicking the shit out of OSU than beating Al...but we'd still like you to come to the senior bowl and potentially risk your draft status. Wtf is wrong with the browns?
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Ultimately I can't think of QB's that aren't asked to try and make it to their #2 if possible (save for Pat White)As opposed to other QBs in this draft locking onto primary targets of their pre-determined passes in the huddle? McNabb played in the Veer Option which was very similar to the style of offense Favre played in before both guys went on to perfect WCOs. Rodgers got stereotyped for being a Tedford system QB and I'm guessing it's why he slid down into the 20s.
My question to you is which of the top QB prospects this year were asked to read progressions?
However that doesn't mean that they do or can.
Ultimately I can't think of QB's that aren't asked to try and make it to their #2 if possible (save for Pat White)
However that doesn't mean that they do or can.
Good point T. That's probably more the case in terms of design.
QBs in college know they can get away with locking onto their primary targets in a world where defenses aren't that complicated/complex so many perfect this bad habit. The oft-labelled "pro ready" Brady Quinn was constantly staring down his primary target Jeff Smarzdija which worked okay until they played teams like LSU or Ohio State. Unfortunately, that never prepared him for a world of reading progressions vrs more complicated defenses in a faster league with less time to throw.
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