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Border War... Oh, it's on, Mexico...

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  • The same people complaining about taxing Mexican oil also complain about the pipeline. Go figure.

  • Also if American businesses can't save money in Mexico and can save it in America what's their incentive to stay in Mexico?

  • @mld-woody said:

    Do we have a domestic supply to replace everything coming from Mexico? Even if we do, domestic suppliers can just raise their price now, but still be under the taxed Mexico good. A lot of ways this lands back on the consumer

    I wonder how many people have said they'd be happy to pay a little extra for goods made in America?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I wonder how many people have said they'd be happy to pay a little extra for goods made in America?

    WSS

    I'd be curious as to who actually means it. I've seen people raise pure hell when their pack of cigs goes up 5cents.

  • I know you Whiney pussy liberals don't know how to negotiate from a point of strength. Let's put it this way: Mexico needs the US. The US does not need Mexico.

    There are dozens of countries that can do the same thing Mexico does. The US on the other hand is the wealthiest country in world history.

  • I do.

    Never have bought a foreign car and I never will. Same for other products.

    I'm sure that "american" car, has parts sourced from foreign countries. The whole, "Buy" American, doesn't mean the same thing it did 20 - 30 years ago. Did you check to see what tires came on your car, if they weren't Goodyear or Cooper, guess what, they were built buy a foreign owned manufacturer. Car's built in the USA are basically assembled, with many components coming from somewhere else other than the USA.

    Hell, even foreign owned manufacturers are building cars here in the USA with American workforce... How ya feel about that?

  • Ford was assembling cars and making 80% of the parts in Mexico, same with the other American car companies. Same with non-American car companies (like VW). The US is such a big consumer of automobiles that it makes sense for the big auto makers to have plants on this side of the world rather than importing them across an ocean - some have chosen the US, others have chosen Mexico.

    Ford's biggest seller, the fusion, was made in Mexico until recently - I'm not sure what they're still making over there but they fairly recently announced they were moving more small car production south of the border.

    Not sure how much that changed since President Trump, I know they cancelled some of their plans to move south.

  • I do.

    Never have bought a foreign car and I never will. Same for other products.

    I'm sure that "american" car, has parts sourced from foreign countries. The whole, "Buy" American, doesn't mean the same thing it did 20 - 30 years ago. Did you check to see what tires came on your car, if they weren't Goodyear or Cooper, guess what, they were built buy a foreign owned manufacturer. Car's built in the USA are basically assembled, with many components coming from somewhere else other than the USA.

    Hell, even foreign owned manufacturers are building cars here in the USA with American workforce... How ya feel about that?

    @brownskidd said:

    I'm sure that "american" car, has parts sourced from foreign countries. The whole, "Buy" American, doesn't mean the same thing it did 20 - 30 years ago. Did you check to see what tires came on your car, if they weren't Goodyear or Cooper, guess what, they were built buy a foreign owned manufacturer. Car's built in the USA are basically assembled, with many components coming from somewhere else other than the USA.

    Hell, even foreign owned manufacturers are building cars here in the USA with American workforce... How ya feel about that?

    How do you feel responding to a clear troll account (probably from Diehard) on the poli board?

  • @brownskidd said:

    I'm sure that "american" car, has parts sourced from foreign countries. The whole, "Buy" American, doesn't mean the same thing it did 20 - 30 years ago. Did you check to see what tires came on your car, if they weren't Goodyear or Cooper, guess what, they were built buy a foreign owned manufacturer. Car's built in the USA are basically assembled, with many components coming from somewhere else other than the USA.

    Hell, even foreign owned manufacturers are building cars here in the USA with American workforce... How ya feel about that?

    How do you feel responding to a clear troll account (probably from Diehard) on the poli board?

    @tiamat63 said:

    How do you feel responding to a clear troll account (probably from Diehard) on the poli board?

    I have no troll accounts. But I'm honored that I get under your thin skin.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    How do you feel responding to a clear troll account (probably from Diehard) on the poli board?

    I have no troll accounts. But I'm honored that I get under your thin skin.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I have no troll accounts. But I'm honored that I get under your thin skin.

    I mean, you did respond to this post. So that's clearly a lie.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I have no troll accounts. But I'm honored that I get under your thin skin.

    I mean, you did respond to this post. So that's clearly a lie.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I mean, you did respond to this post. So that's clearly a lie.

    Care to make a wager?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I mean, you did respond to this post. So that's clearly a lie.

    Care to make a wager?

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Care to make a wager?

    Out of pure curiousity, lets hear your terms.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Care to make a wager?

    Out of pure curiousity, lets hear your terms.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Out of pure curiousity, lets hear your terms.

    Anything since I will win.

  • @boo-radley said:

    I buy Ford

    I dont know if every part is made in the USA, but I know that my money is going keep Americans working and that Ford is a US company.

    What kind of tires you got on that truck?

  • Mexico has taken advantage of the U.S. for long enough. Massive trade deficits & little help on the very weak border must change, NOW!

  • So how exactly do you anticipate that trade deficit changing? Because Mexico isn't going to get significantly richer to buy stuff from the US, the US isn't going to get significantly poorer so you stop buying stuff from Mexico. Maybe a factory or two will move across the border but I can't see it becoming a massive trend.

  • Maybe it is because we hold all the cards and Mexico has more to lose in a trade war than us that Trump takes an antagonistic tone with Mexico in declaring they (Mexico) will pay for the wall. First of all why should Mexico pay for the wall when it is our wall and secondly what politician in his right mind in Mexico will go along with Trump on paying for the wall. It would be political suicide for any Mexican politician. Trump needs to give Mexico a way to save face on this instead of trying to rub their face in the mud. I agree with what Trump is doing in securing the border and wanting to renegotiate the bad trade deal NAFTA but I just disagree with his tactics.

  • Maybe it is because we hold all the cards and Mexico has more to lose in a trade war than us that Trump takes an antagonistic tone with Mexico in declaring they (Mexico) will pay for the wall. First of all why should Mexico pay for the wall when it is our wall and secondly what politician in his right mind in Mexico will go along with Trump on paying for the wall. It would be political suicide for any Mexican politician. Trump needs to give Mexico a way to save face on this instead of trying to rub their face in the mud. I agree with what Trump is doing in securing the border and wanting to renegotiate the bad trade deal NAFTA but I just disagree with his tactics.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Maybe it is because we hold all the cards and Mexico has more to lose in a trade war than us that Trump takes an antagonistic tone with Mexico in declaring they (Mexico) will pay for the wall. First of all why should Mexico pay for the wall when it is our wall and secondly what politician in his right mind in Mexico will go along with Trump on paying for the wall. It would be political suicide for any Mexican politician. Trump needs to give Mexico a way to save face on this instead of trying to rub their face in the mud. I agree with what Trump is doing in securing the border and wanting to renegotiate the bad trade deal NAFTA but I just disagree with his tactics.

    Which is lovely rhetoric, but it doesn't address the fact that the deficit exists for a reason - the US is a rich country and a consumer of goods and Mexico is a poor country and producer. You can by all means produce a high quality of goods and export them to other rich countries - like Japan and Germany do - but you won't get Mexico spending hundreds of billions of dollars more than they currently do because they simply don't have the money.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Do we have a domestic supply to replace everything coming from Mexico? Even if we do, domestic suppliers can just raise their price now, but still be under the taxed Mexico good. A lot of ways this lands back on the consumer

    I wonder how many people have said they'd be happy to pay a little extra for goods made in America?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I wonder how many people have said they'd be happy to pay a little extra for goods made in America?

    WSS

    It might be more than a little extra. For certain goods that are more necessities than wants, the price could go up alot without that foreign competition. It remiains to be seen how thisvworks out but reality is that the conservative econ people are prob gonna shit themselves over this. Walmart might take a bath cause their whole business model is predicated on cheap foreign made goods

  • Trust me theres alot of people who voted for trump that are gonna have second thoughts when their walmart shit goes way up in price