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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    All this interpersonal crap isn't necessary. Like ridiculing somebody who was in the military,by

    claiming they are a fake.

    You hear anybody claiming that Osiris "is a fake Muslim" or anything? That would really be offensive.

    The left needs to stop initiating all this belligerent, constant, personal antagonism. I don't get it.

    None of us hated anybody because we lost two presidential elections. This is deja vu all over again.

    Bush won twice and all hell broke loose. The past eight years of obamao, there haven't been

    threats and hateful dangerous rallies, the media was full of grace toward the president....

    about half this country voted Trump in- the pendulum had to swing back. Why isn't that

    acceptable to the left? They had their turn, let us have our turn. That is how it works.

    I have dumb opinions here and there, but seriously, I don't see any of us on the ..non-left

    hating anybody. It's the left that goes way, way out in left field angry when they lose

    elections.

    That seems to be indicative of what we are seeing across the country. Reisistance to OUR

    president? Reps were fine to let Obamao have his two very, very leftwing activist judges to

    the Surpreme Court. They stopped him from adding another late in his presidency.

    Now, the left is going to stop any nominee by Trump.

    Why is it that "elections have consequences" only when the left wins?

    Why does this forum turn into hating other posters, only when a rep wins?

    Why does the left half of our country go apecrap revolutionist, when they didn't win

    a third time?

    Any excuses to answer those questions are feeble at best. I have some dumb opinions, can

    be wrong about stuff, joke around,all of us are like that. Just seems like the interpersonal hate garbage

    gets out of hand quickly, only when the left loses. I'm not goin anywhere, but it's more fun when

    both the left and right can express their views without the hate bubbling up for no good reason.

    Everybody have a nice day.

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      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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      Look no further than urself there homeslice. Since ive been here you've resorted to nothing but personal attacks and capricious straw manning. One of my first days hete i expressed my pro choice stance and u called me some blood thirsty baby killer as if seeing pregnant women irritated me and i just want to run over and sock her one right in the ovaries.

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        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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        And the constant woodpecker photos ffs

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          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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          I just heard Mrs. OBF on the telephone saying "we need to respect our president's decision". I asked her what that was all about and she said CNN had a phone number they wanted anti Trump people to call and say how has his immigration policy harmed them. CNN just stirring the pot.

          I see this every night on the national news and MSM media. They will interview an extreme case (that is not the norm) in their effort to paint Trump in a bad light. Where were the MSM when Obama instituted a ban on Iraqi immigration here? Where were all the interviews of those affected by Obama's decision? The MSM are liberal pretend journalists who carry the democrats water all day long and in many cases are an extension of the democratic party.

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            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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            One thing I like about Trump which bothered me about Bush. Trump fights back every time. Bush rarely fought back which was a primary reason his approval ratings were so low when he left office. When you don't fight back you have basically accepted the charges leveled against you.

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              OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by Osiris
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              In this climate nobody would claim to be Muslim unless they actually were, or unless they want to frame Muslims (ala Canadian Mosque Shooter). I revealed that very personal information about myself because I wanted to show everyone that we aren't the stereotypes you think we are. I thought long and hard about that decision, and deciding to do that when you know half of America hates you wasn't easy. But I would do it again because it is the right thing to do.

              You want to extend an olive branch? Show some self-awareness and humility around here. Until then, I'm tuning you out.

              "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                OBF, when obama instituted his restriction...on one country....was it done so abruptly that people landing on US soil who had valid entry papers already squared away, were forced to turn around?

                Trump knee jeked this. And that to me, precisely because i feel its a valid idea, is unacceptable and nearly worthy of impeachment. He ruined this idea by making it hyper partisan and frankly smacking of racism and/or religious prejudice. The fact he had to make a punlic statement saying this wasnt a muslim ban...means someone apprised him of that land mine he just stepped on. Thsts why i was astounded at what giuliani did.

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                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                  and yet, Os, you bashed me for disagreeing with your in-error contention about

                  the ottoman empire, got angry, and that started the whole problem between you

                  and me. Then you claimed to have put me on ignore, then you respond in this

                  thread just like cleve did. on the attack, insulting.

                  I started off trying desperately to draw a giant distinction on your faith, and the

                  corrupt claims of the terrorists.

                  Your contention that "half of America hates" you is ignorant. You lost the election, it is not

                  about Muslims anything. I even posted about two prominent Muslims and what they had to

                  say about it. They disagree with you. You ignored it.

                  The fault is yours, Os. I never once gave you anything but respect til you went angry

                  over me disagreeing over you contention about the ottoman empire.

                  Never tell me I'm not allowed to disagree with you when you are wrong, That isn't helpful

                  to this forum. I was hoping you would come around a lot more, but you rarely did.

                  But now, since you are in liberal attack mode, you are here. Too bad, you chose

                  wrongly, now you are unhappy.

                  As far as humility, why only one person has to show it? You haven't. You arrogantly

                  refused to admit you were wrong about the ottoman empire, that started the problem.

                  So, self-aware yourself. Note also, I rarely jump into other folks' disagreements.

                  It's called piling on at the opportunity. There are all sorts of posters I never get into

                  it with, Cysko gives me crap once in a while, when I deserve it... 🙂 etc etc.

                  I am appreciative of most of your viewpoints, but being a Muslim doesn't give

                  you authority over disgreements on this board. And saying that poor you, half of

                  America hates you because you're Muslim is offensive. That doesn't make you the

                  victim that you liberals desperately cling to every time.

                  Even if I were a Muslim, too, I would still tell you to STFU about that bs. It is not true, and the media and

                  leftwing congresspeople and pundits who happily use it as just another false narrative

                  are hurting our country. Have a nice day.

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                    OBF, when obama instituted his restriction...on one country....was it done so abruptly that people landing on US soil who had valid entry papers already squared away, were forced to turn around?

                    Trump knee jeked this. And that to me, precisely because i feel its a valid idea, is unacceptable and nearly worthy of impeachment. He ruined this idea by making it hyper partisan and frankly smacking of racism and/or religious prejudice. The fact he had to make a punlic statement saying this wasnt a muslim ban...means someone apprised him of that land mine he just stepped on. Thsts why i was astounded at what giuliani did.

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                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    OBF, when obama instituted his restriction...on one country....was it done so abruptly that people landing on US soil who had valid entry papers already squared away, were forced to turn around?

                    Trump knee jeked this. And that to me, precisely because i feel its a valid idea, is unacceptable and nearly worthy of impeachment. He ruined this idea by making it hyper partisan and frankly smacking of racism and/or religious prejudice. The fact he had to make a punlic statement saying this wasnt a muslim ban...means someone apprised him of that land mine he just stepped on. Thsts why i was astounded at what giuliani did.

                    It was done poorly no doubt (too hastily and not well though out). In defense of Trump though he has been in office less than 2 weeks. Hopefully he will learn from this and do better fighting the PR war.

                    I watch the national evening news now only to witness the blatant bias they have against Trump. Night after night they don't let me down in that regard.

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                      OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by Osiris
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                      And there goes the olive branch. My claims are backed by polling of American opinions about Islam and Muslims:

                      "Donald Trump’s call for a ban on Muslims might sound outrageous, but it could appeal to the 55% of Americans who voice an unfavorable opinion of Islam."

                      -https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/08/muslims-us-islam-islamophobia-data-polls

                      And I do have you on ignore. Even when people are ignore, these forums allow you to expand the post and read it. Since I thought there was slim chance that you were trying to extend an olive branch, I decided to read it. Good job burning that branch and thanks for confirming what I already know about you. Please, try out the ignore feature for yourself and put me on it. I am done with you.

                      "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                        As I understand it, because of the desperate need to void obamao's

                        exec order, that in itself shut the door abruptly. I don't know how he

                        can gradually adjust his exec order from the effects of obamao's.

                        I believe more people have been imposed on, losing their chances

                        to make their flights because of the immigration "protesters", than the

                        109 people who were actually detained for further vetting.

                        It's tough to fix a problem that Obamao created. A bit abrupt, sure, but

                        that is being fixed. I don't know how else the change could be made.....

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                          T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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                          Cal doesn't like personal attacks. He only retaliates, but he wants you to know he'll stop if you agree to not personally attack him with facts and agree that every opinion he's trying to teach you is correct.

                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                            And there goes the olive branch. My claims are backed by polling of American opinions about Islam and Muslims:

                            "Donald Trump’s call for a ban on Muslims might sound outrageous, but it could appeal to the 55% of Americans who voice an unfavorable opinion of Islam."

                            -https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/08/muslims-us-islam-islamophobia-data-polls

                            And I do have you on ignore. Even when people are ignore, these forums allow you to expand the post and read it. Since I thought there was slim chance that you were trying to extend an olive branch, I decided to read it. Good job burning that branch and thanks for confirming what I already know about you. Please, try out the ignore feature for yourself and put me on it. I am done with you.

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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            @osiris said:

                            And there goes the olive branch. My claims are backed by polling of American opinions about Islam and Muslims:

                            "Donald Trump’s call for a ban on Muslims might sound outrageous, but it could appeal to the 55% of Americans who voice an unfavorable opinion of Islam."

                            -https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/08/muslims-us-islam-islamophobia-data-polls

                            And I do have you on ignore. Even when people are ignore, these forums allow you to expand the post and read it. Since I thought there was slim chance that you were trying to extend an olive branch, I decided to read it. Good job burning that branch and thanks for confirming what I already know about you. Please, try out the ignore feature for yourself and put me on it. I am done with you.

                            one poll? that's a generalization, due to the impact of 9/11. Nobody hates you here, yet

                            you still think that you being a Muslim gives you the grand poobah power of controlling

                            narratives. I just said what I had to say, and was hoping some would agree that this

                            hostility is a bad thing. You talk about self-awareness, Os, but you still refuse to admit

                            I was correct about your ottoman empire. You don't get to rewrite history around here.

                            You should get off your pouty arrogant ass, and forget your hostility where there was

                            none. Too bad I'm not a Muslim so I could really tell you off without you whining

                            that I just don't like Muslims.

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                              Cal doesn't like personal attacks. He only retaliates, but he wants you to know he'll stop if you agree to not personally attack him with facts and agree that every opinion he's trying to teach you is correct.

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                              @the-cysko-kid said:

                              Cal doesn't like personal attacks. He only retaliates, but he wants you to know he'll stop if you agree to not personally attack him with facts and agree that every opinion he's trying to teach you is correct.

                              lol.

                              "I hate you" lol

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                                As for that Osiris: I personally don't hate Muslims. I don't hate Christians either. But to be honest I have an unfavorable opinion of both religions. Judaism too. I'm cool with Hindus and buddhists. I would say I have a slightly more unfavorable opinion of Islam because of their proclivity to bomb planes and buildings and try to pass it off as religious duty. Christians are also huge assholes but I don't know the last time they bombed a plane full of people. A lot of Muslim apologists try to pass the Oklahoma city bombings off as Christian terrorism but there's no evidence McVeigh was religiously motivated.

                                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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                                  The lack of self awareness has reached new heights. Absolutely mind boggling. I honestly don't understand how you can go about as you do, and then blame everyone else for ruining your safe space.

                                  This is the most snowflake thread on this board

                                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                    jumping in, piling on, makes you a woodpecker. be proud, be loud, be a birdbrain. got it.

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                                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                      Am I not allowed to respond to this thread? In a way that is very much on topic. The topic being your twisted interpretation of this board.

                                      It sounds like you want to censor me. Which is a very liberal snowflake thing to do.

                                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                        As I understand it, because of the desperate need to void obamao's

                                        exec order, that in itself shut the door abruptly. I don't know how he

                                        can gradually adjust his exec order from the effects of obamao's.

                                        I believe more people have been imposed on, losing their chances

                                        to make their flights because of the immigration "protesters", than the

                                        109 people who were actually detained for further vetting.

                                        It's tough to fix a problem that Obamao created. A bit abrupt, sure, but

                                        that is being fixed. I don't know how else the change could be made.....

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                                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        As I understand it, because of the desperate need to void obamao's

                                        exec order, that in itself shut the door abruptly. I don't know how he

                                        can gradually adjust his exec order from the effects of obamao's.

                                        I believe more people have been imposed on, losing their chances

                                        to make their flights because of the immigration "protesters", than the

                                        109 people who were actually detained for further vetting.

                                        It's tough to fix a problem that Obamao created. A bit abrupt, sure, but

                                        that is being fixed. I don't know how else the change could be made.....

                                        They lost in the PR war though and they will need to do better in that regard. I think they will learn from this experience and be more prepared to fight the PR war in the future. They already know the MSM will not treat them fairly.

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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          As I understand it, because of the desperate need to void obamao's

                                          exec order, that in itself shut the door abruptly. I don't know how he

                                          can gradually adjust his exec order from the effects of obamao's.

                                          I believe more people have been imposed on, losing their chances

                                          to make their flights because of the immigration "protesters", than the

                                          109 people who were actually detained for further vetting.

                                          It's tough to fix a problem that Obamao created. A bit abrupt, sure, but

                                          that is being fixed. I don't know how else the change could be made.....

                                          They lost in the PR war though and they will need to do better in that regard. I think they will learn from this experience and be more prepared to fight the PR war in the future. They already know the MSM will not treat them fairly.

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                                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                                          They lost in the PR war though and they will need to do better in that regard. I think they will learn from this experience and be more prepared to fight the PR war in the future. They already know the MSM will not treat them fairly.

                                          True. Seems like winning the pr war is a lost cause, though. So much of the media plays

                                          in with the false fear-mongering narratives of the likes of Reid, Schumer, Pelosi,

                                          the whole bunch. Without Fox news, for one, there isn't any winning of the pr war

                                          without stooping to their level. So much contrived controversy, falsely based agitation...

                                          on purpose. I have no idea what the answer is. Every time Trump or Bush makes a mistake,

                                          all hell breaks loose. But obamao made a mistake, there's silence. Can anybody imagine if

                                          Trump had presided over Benghazi?

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