The Las Vegas Raiders
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@ghoolie said:
When I stop posting, the board will die. I am the ONLY POSTER who management ever asked to return to the board because posting totals were down. Just remember that cock pus. I am here because I am the most highly read posted on the board. Like a QB, as goes Ghoolie, so goes the board.
Cool. Answer the question.
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Only walking to the Dome. LOL it's a dry heat. I don't care if it's zero humidity- 120 is not survivable for long. With all due respect to you- southern guy, I blame Willis Carrier- the inventor of AC, for reshaping the demographics of America. Would you really want to live where you are without it? Proof is since 1940 the population of Vegas has grown by a factor of almost 19. From 8,400 to over 1.5 million. I've always said if ISIS wanted to destroy the US, all they'd have to do is take out the power grid- there'd be chaos within a week. With that in mind- it's why the government spent millions to divert US 93 (used to go over) the Hoover Dam- no longer. A McVeigh truckload of high explosives detonated on top of it, would have been bye-bye Vegas and a bunch of other towns. Ghoolie has a thing on his FaceBook page "water is the new gold" and population growth in the desert southwest is going to be limited by that factor sooner or later.
Ah, another example of NFL greed Gip. Go where the money is, not necessarily the TV market and population. Vegas is the 42nd market. You get out of Vegas and Henderson- there's a whole lot of nuthin'.
Well at the risk of giving away that I'm just a couple of months shy of 70, I never experienced AC when growing up in sweltering, humid Beaumont, Texas. But when you grow up that way you aren't really aware you're missing something. You just go shoeless from May-Sept and develop the callouses to kill bees with a bare foot.
:lol:Well at the risk of giving away that I'm just a couple of months shy of 70, I never experienced AC when growing up in sweltering, humid Beaumont, Texas. But when you grow up that way you aren't really aware you're missing something. You just go shoeless from May-Sept and develop the callouses to kill bees with a bare foot.
:lol:Ha, I suppose you can get used to it. I'm only a few years younger than you- but believe it- growing up in Cleveland and having an 85 degree day with 80% humidity when it only gets down to 80 at night without AC was downright miserable- to the point you couldn't sleep.
I do believe there's heat adaption, if you live in it long enough. A little story. You may know one of my hobbies is Astronomy, and about 15 yeas ago I went to The Winter Star Party in the Florida Keys- in January. Around 2AM I felt it was getting a little cool, so I decided I needed to put on a sweater. Saw a couple guys from Miami wearing parkas.
There's cold adaption too. My pal from Alaska sent me a picture of a guy walking down the street in a light jacket in Fairbanks, though Bernie said this was a little unusual. Temperature on the Bank sign read -40. -
Well at the risk of giving away that I'm just a couple of months shy of 70, I never experienced AC when growing up in sweltering, humid Beaumont, Texas. But when you grow up that way you aren't really aware you're missing something. You just go shoeless from May-Sept and develop the callouses to kill bees with a bare foot.
:lol:Ha, I suppose you can get used to it. I'm only a few years younger than you- but believe it- growing up in Cleveland and having an 85 degree day with 80% humidity when it only gets down to 80 at night without AC was downright miserable- to the point you couldn't sleep.
I do believe there's heat adaption, if you live in it long enough. A little story. You may know one of my hobbies is Astronomy, and about 15 yeas ago I went to The Winter Star Party in the Florida Keys- in January. Around 2AM I felt it was getting a little cool, so I decided I needed to put on a sweater. Saw a couple guys from Miami wearing parkas.
There's cold adaption too. My pal from Alaska sent me a picture of a guy walking down the street in a light jacket in Fairbanks, though Bernie said this was a little unusual. Temperature on the Bank sign read -40. Ha, I suppose you can get used to it. I'm only a few years younger than you- but believe it- growing up in Cleveland and having an 85 degree day with 80% humidity when it only gets down to 80 at night without AC was downright miserable- to the point you couldn't sleep.
Well there it is! The advantage of living in the Beaumont 100F 90+% humidity in August is that the mosquitoes would keep you cool with their little wings.
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Well at the risk of giving away that I'm just a couple of months shy of 70, I never experienced AC when growing up in sweltering, humid Beaumont, Texas. But when you grow up that way you aren't really aware you're missing something. You just go shoeless from May-Sept and develop the callouses to kill bees with a bare foot.
:lol:Ha, I suppose you can get used to it. I'm only a few years younger than you- but believe it- growing up in Cleveland and having an 85 degree day with 80% humidity when it only gets down to 80 at night without AC was downright miserable- to the point you couldn't sleep.
I do believe there's heat adaption, if you live in it long enough. A little story. You may know one of my hobbies is Astronomy, and about 15 yeas ago I went to The Winter Star Party in the Florida Keys- in January. Around 2AM I felt it was getting a little cool, so I decided I needed to put on a sweater. Saw a couple guys from Miami wearing parkas.
There's cold adaption too. My pal from Alaska sent me a picture of a guy walking down the street in a light jacket in Fairbanks, though Bernie said this was a little unusual. Temperature on the Bank sign read -40. I do believe there's heat adaption, if you live in it long enough.
My first winter in Houston when it hit 50 deg the locals were in longjohns and winter coats. The heaviest thing I wore the entire winter was a fleece-lined windbreaker. The next winter... I was right there with them.
I never, however, adapted to Houston's humidity.
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I do believe there's heat adaption, if you live in it long enough.
My first winter in Houston when it hit 50 deg the locals were in longjohns and winter coats. The heaviest thing I wore the entire winter was a fleece-lined windbreaker. The next winter... I was right there with them.
I never, however, adapted to Houston's humidity.
My first winter in Houston when it hit 50 deg the locals were in longjohns and winter coats. The heaviest thing I wore the entire winter was a fleece-lined windbreaker. The next winter... I was right there with them.
I never, however, adapted to Houston's humidity.
I was in San Antonio for almost 2 weeks over Christmas. The first week there it was pretty damn cold, and a northern breeze was coming in that made it worse. So I did wear a fleece. Later though, it got up to almost in the 80s.
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Ha, I suppose you can get used to it. I'm only a few years younger than you- but believe it- growing up in Cleveland and having an 85 degree day with 80% humidity when it only gets down to 80 at night without AC was downright miserable- to the point you couldn't sleep.
Well there it is! The advantage of living in the Beaumont 100F 90+% humidity in August is that the mosquitoes would keep you cool with their little wings.
:lol: Well there it is! The advantage of living in the Beaumont 100F 90+% humidity in August is that the mosquitoes would keep you cool with their little wings.
:lol:Well, I suppose that's one small advantage in Vegas- no bugs. But plenty of other nasty things out in the desert like scorpions, Gila Monsters, and rattlesnakes. One advantage of Ohio- the first two don't exist, and though there are supposed to be a few of the latter, I've never seen a live one.
My first winter in Houston when it hit 50 deg the locals were in longjohns and winter coats. The heaviest thing I wore the entire winter was a fleece-lined windbreaker. The next winter... I was right there with them.
I never, however, adapted to Houston's humidity.
Similar experience of one of my pals. got transferred from Cleveland to Orange County CA. First winter- was out and about in a t-shirt and shorts. Neighbors thought he was nuts. Second winter- dress like the locals.
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@ghoolie said:
Furthermore, there is an unending bounty of opportunities for me musically. I have an audition in 7 months as a utility player for a new Cirque show slated for 2019, a ton of restaurants for accordion work, AND one of my favorite things, performing as a street musician and talking to countless people all day long. Pretty nice way for a guy to retire, if you ask me.
Ha, better invest in a trained monkey with a cup- you'd probably clean up playing the accordion on the strip.
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This may be worse news in the Raiders to Vegas story....worse than Adelson pulling out is that Goldman Sachs is also pulling out of Vegas Stadium deal.
Or, actually, in my mind, it is good news.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/31/reports-goldman-sachs-leaving-proposed-raiders-stadium-deal/
Looks like Ghoolie and Stan may not have a team there after all. Per this, the Raiders may now attempt to see if there is still some way they can stay in Oakland.
Ronnie Lott leading a group to build a new Stadium.
One other option is for the Raiders to play in the current new 49ers stadium, permanently or while a new Oakland stadium is being built.
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I've read that San Diego may try to get the Raiders also.
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This may be worse news in the Raiders to Vegas story....worse than Adelson pulling out is that Goldman Sachs is also pulling out of Vegas Stadium deal.
Or, actually, in my mind, it is good news.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/31/reports-goldman-sachs-leaving-proposed-raiders-stadium-deal/
Looks like Ghoolie and Stan may not have a team there after all. Per this, the Raiders may now attempt to see if there is still some way they can stay in Oakland.
Ronnie Lott leading a group to build a new Stadium.
One other option is for the Raiders to play in the current new 49ers stadium, permanently or while a new Oakland stadium is being built.
This may be worse news in the Raiders to Vegas story....worse than Adelson pulling out is that Goldman Sachs is also pulling out of Vegas Stadium deal.
Or, actually, in my mind, it is good news.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/31/reports-goldman-sachs-leaving-proposed-raiders-stadium-deal/
Looks like Ghoolie and Stan may not have a team there after all. Per this, the Raiders may now attempt to see if there is still some way they can stay in Oakland.
Ronnie Lott leading a group to build a new Stadium.
One other option is for the Raiders to play in the current new 49ers stadium, permanently or while a new Oakland stadium is being built.
I hope this carpetbagging stops once and for all. Great. Admittedly, Oakland Colosseum is obviously not up to current NFL standards. But if they can get something done for the Warriors- near criminal they're ignoring the Raiders.
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I've read that San Diego may try to get the Raiders also.
I've read that San Diego may try to get the Raiders also.
It will cost them a new stadium. Though Qualcom would be a marginal upgrade over Oakland's dump. If they wouldn't do it for the Chargers, can't see them doing it to entice the Raiders.
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I've read that San Diego may try to get the Raiders also.
It will cost them a new stadium. Though Qualcom would be a marginal upgrade over Oakland's dump. If they wouldn't do it for the Chargers, can't see them doing it to entice the Raiders.
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I've read that San Diego may try to get the Raiders also.
I've read that San Diego may try to get the Raiders also.
lol... Should have seen that coming.
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This may be worse news in the Raiders to Vegas story....worse than Adelson pulling out is that Goldman Sachs is also pulling out of Vegas Stadium deal.
Or, actually, in my mind, it is good news.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/31/reports-goldman-sachs-leaving-proposed-raiders-stadium-deal/
Looks like Ghoolie and Stan may not have a team there after all. Per this, the Raiders may now attempt to see if there is still some way they can stay in Oakland.
Ronnie Lott leading a group to build a new Stadium.
One other option is for the Raiders to play in the current new 49ers stadium, permanently or while a new Oakland stadium is being built.
I hope this carpetbagging stops once and for all. Great. Admittedly, Oakland Colosseum is obviously not up to current NFL standards. But if they can get something done for the Warriors- near criminal they're ignoring the Raiders.
I hope this carpetbagging stops once and for all. Great. Admittedly, Oakland Colosseum is obviously not up to current NFL standards. But if they can get something done for the Warriors- near criminal they're ignoring the Raiders.
And in yet another curse, well an AL Davis curse from the grave, what happens to the once great Oakland A's? IF/WHEN the Raiders leave are the moving vans backing up for the relatively often moved Athletics?
AL Davis demanded and got the ugly and not good for football or baseball renovations on his (basically blackmail) requests to move the Raid-ers back to Oakland.
Hey Raiders + A's a today's 2 for 1 bargain basement special!
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I've read that San Diego may try to get the Raiders also.
It will cost them a new stadium. Though Qualcom would be a marginal upgrade over Oakland's dump. If they wouldn't do it for the Chargers, can't see them doing it to entice the Raiders.
It will cost them a new stadium. Though Qualcom would be a marginal upgrade over Oakland's dump. If they wouldn't do it for the Chargers, can't see them doing it to entice the Raiders.
Nope, see the Soccer is gay thread in the Barber Shop. San Diego has decided to try to build an MLS stadium, and turn to that sport for its citizenry's pleasure. But...who knows.
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It will cost them a new stadium. Though Qualcom would be a marginal upgrade over Oakland's dump. If they wouldn't do it for the Chargers, can't see them doing it to entice the Raiders.
Nope, see the Soccer is gay thread in the Barber Shop. San Diego has decided to try to build an MLS stadium, and turn to that sport for its citizenry's pleasure. But...who knows.
Nope, see the Soccer is gay thread in the Barber Shop. San Diego has decided to try to build an MLS stadium, and turn to that sport for its citizenry's pleasure. But...who knows.
Totally different situation. Dean Spanos and the Chargers didn't want to spend any money to get a new stadium. They wanted the city and the people of San Diego to pay for it. The proposed soccer stadium (which would've been proposed whether the Chargers stayed or left) is going to be privately funded by an investment firm in San Diego. The soccer option has been in the works for 2 years and was just waiting for the Chargers to make up their mind about where they are going to play, either the Qualcomm site or moving downtown or to another city. Once the Chargers decided to leave, the investment firm went public with their plan, especially because MLS is in the process of expanding to 4 more cities in the next few years and saw an opportunity to get in on that right away.
As for Oakland moving to San Diego, as much as I would love to see it because it would be a giant fuck you to the chargers owner who did nothing over the years to try and get a stadium deal done other than whine about that he needed one, I just don't see it happening because there's no way to get an approval on a nearly 2 billion dollar stadium, unless it's privately funded. And if Mark Davis isn't willing to pony up the cash to stay in Oakland, why the hell would he do it in San Diego?
Qualcomm would be an upgrade over the Coliseum but not a very big one and would still need to have money put into it to make it decent while a new stadium was being built. Something else that the Chargers and their owner has been unwilling to do for the past 10 years.
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Nope, see the Soccer is gay thread in the Barber Shop. San Diego has decided to try to build an MLS stadium, and turn to that sport for its citizenry's pleasure. But...who knows.
Totally different situation. Dean Spanos and the Chargers didn't want to spend any money to get a new stadium. They wanted the city and the people of San Diego to pay for it. The proposed soccer stadium (which would've been proposed whether the Chargers stayed or left) is going to be privately funded by an investment firm in San Diego. The soccer option has been in the works for 2 years and was just waiting for the Chargers to make up their mind about where they are going to play, either the Qualcomm site or moving downtown or to another city. Once the Chargers decided to leave, the investment firm went public with their plan, especially because MLS is in the process of expanding to 4 more cities in the next few years and saw an opportunity to get in on that right away.
As for Oakland moving to San Diego, as much as I would love to see it because it would be a giant fuck you to the chargers owner who did nothing over the years to try and get a stadium deal done other than whine about that he needed one, I just don't see it happening because there's no way to get an approval on a nearly 2 billion dollar stadium, unless it's privately funded. And if Mark Davis isn't willing to pony up the cash to stay in Oakland, why the hell would he do it in San Diego?
Qualcomm would be an upgrade over the Coliseum but not a very big one and would still need to have money put into it to make it decent while a new stadium was being built. Something else that the Chargers and their owner has been unwilling to do for the past 10 years.
... if Mark Davis isn't willing to pony up the cash to stay in Oakland, why the hell would he do it in San Diego?
Because it's, you know, in San Diego?
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Fair enough, Mark.
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yeah...I get that part too and maybe he would put up a large percentage of money to get it done. But there's no way the NFL is walking away from $750 million guaranteed public money in Las Vegas.
So, then, maybe they scale back the stadium project. 750 mill. coming from Las Vegas. The NFL is supposedly willing to put up 100 mill. If they can come in with a budget at 1 billion, that would mean the Raiders would just have to come up with another 150 mill.
Why cannot a really nice stadium...even a Dome, be built for 1 Bill.?
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