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  • gftChris gftChrisG
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    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    Never forget the bowling green massacre...

    ...there are at least a few every year when they play a proper FBS team.

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      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      The media is obsessing over a misspeak by Kellyanne Conway…

      This morning all the rage in the news is Kellyanne Conway citing a massacre that never happened to justify Trump’s pause on immigration from 7 countries in the Middle East:

      Now I get that it might not have been readily clear what she meant by a the Bowling Green massacre, since there never was a massacre in bowling green.

      But as Conway points out, an NBC reporter even texted her early this morning but NEVER asked what she meant before the Today Show ran with the story bashing her for saying it:

      Conway’s own tweet correcting the record came just after 8am, well after the major newsers had run their story:

      On @hardball @NBCNews @MSNBC I meant to say "Bowling Green terrorists" as reported here:

      READ: Bowling Green Terrorists: Al Qaeda in KY: US May Have Let 'Dozens' of Terrorists Into Country as Refugees

      Why didn’t anyone contact her to ask her what she meant? Instead they just ran with the story, inferring she’s stupid or a liar, whichever one you want to believe.

      UPDATE: Here’s another tweet from CNN. Look at now snarky it is and look at the timing on the tweet. It’s well after she corrected the record:

      CNN ✔ @CNN

      Kellyanne Conway is right. We did not cover the Bowling Green massacre -- because it never happened

      For her part, Conway must do a better job of getting her facts straight before stating them publicly. The media loves opportunities like this to make Republicans look stupid and will continue to do so as long as anyone from the Trump admin misspeaks or gets facts patently wrong.

      Can you imagine what would happen if Trump said this?

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        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        We are at war with Iran. We have always been at war with Iran.

        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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          I'm not sure what's worse, cal's scatter gun approach of just posting endless links, or OBF's text dumping an entire article instead of engaging in conversation.

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            T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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            Fake news might be more prevalent on the right, but mainstream news cover left fake news such as "Villanova Trump supporters attack black woman" and then never bother to retract the story when it comes out as fake

            Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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              Fake News exists on both sides, for sure, but I've seen polls showing it's a little more prevalent on the right. I'm not sure what exactly would be the reason for that. Maybe we'll see a swing with a Rep president

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              VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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              @mld-woody said:

              Fake News exists on both sides, for sure, but I've seen polls showing it's a little more prevalent on the right. I'm not sure what exactly would be the reason for that. Maybe we'll see a swing with a Rep president

              NPR and CNN are just as guilty as Infowars and Huffpost when it comes to peddling dubious Op-eds as fact. NPR's post about the countries in the ban aligning with Trump's business interests comes to mind.

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                I'm not sure what's worse, cal's scatter gun approach of just posting endless links, or OBF's text dumping an entire article instead of engaging in conversation.

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                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                @gftchris said:

                I'm not sure what's worse, cal's scatter gun approach of just posting endless links, or OBF's text dumping an entire article instead of engaging in conversation.

                Feel free to respond to the article I posted. You posted a snarky comment about a misspeak by Kellyanne Conway and the article I posted gave the rest of the story. It was a simple misspeak that is being blown out of proportion by the media (and gftChris).

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                  @gftchris said:

                  I'm not sure what's worse, cal's scatter gun approach of just posting endless links, or OBF's text dumping an entire article instead of engaging in conversation.

                  Feel free to respond to the article I posted. You posted a snarky comment about a misspeak by Kellyanne Conway and the article I posted gave the rest of the story. It was a simple misspeak that is being blown out of proportion by the media (and gftChris).

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                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                  Feel free to respond to the article I posted. You posted a snarky comment about a misspeak by Kellyanne Conway and the article I posted gave the rest of the story. It was a simple misspeak that is being blown out of proportion by the media (and gftChris).

                  I'm blowing out of proportion? I'm free to make fun of her all I like, and we're not short of ammunition, with her 'alternative facts'. You could see her regret saying that before the words even came out.

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                    Chris, have you been to each and every one of Obamao's 57 states?

                    Libs hate subjects in the news that they want to ignore.

                    Meanwhile, this is the left:

                    http://mashable.com/2017/02/02/threatening-posts-secret-service/#7bEZeMWB05q2

                    Over 12,000 tweets are calling for Trump's assassination. Here's how the Secret Service handles it
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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      that is a hardcore liberal way of turning into terrorists because they lost the election.

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        Yep, and we can laugh at him for it as well. In neither case is it particularly relevant to much, just funny.

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                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                          Feel free to respond to the article I posted. You posted a snarky comment about a misspeak by Kellyanne Conway and the article I posted gave the rest of the story. It was a simple misspeak that is being blown out of proportion by the media (and gftChris).

                          I'm blowing out of proportion? I'm free to make fun of her all I like, and we're not short of ammunition, with her 'alternative facts'. You could see her regret saying that before the words even came out.

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                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          @gftchris said:

                          I'm blowing out of proportion? I'm free to make fun of her all I like, and we're not short of ammunition, with her 'alternative facts'. You could see her regret saying that before the words even came out.

                          It was misspeak. She corrected the record. No big deal. It is not like she made a huge gaff like misspelling potato or anything that extreme (or 57 states).

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            "Can you imagine if Trump had said 57 states!!???"

                            Now excuse me while I insult Obama for saying 57 states years after it happened.

                            Don't give me that "it would so much worse" BS. For YEARS that was brought up on here as a way to attack Obama.

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                              "Can you imagine if Trump had said 57 states!!???"

                              Now excuse me while I insult Obama for saying 57 states years after it happened.

                              Don't give me that "it would so much worse" BS. For YEARS that was brought up on here as a way to attack Obama.

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                              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              @mld-woody said:

                              "Can you imagine if Trump had said 57 states!!???"

                              Now excuse me while I insult Obama for saying 57 states years after it happened.

                              Don't give me that "it would so much worse" BS. For YEARS that was brought up on here as a way to attack Obama.

                              I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                "Can you imagine if Trump had said 57 states!!???"

                                Now excuse me while I insult Obama for saying 57 states years after it happened.

                                Don't give me that "it would so much worse" BS. For YEARS that was brought up on here as a way to attack Obama.

                                I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

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                                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                @oldbrownsfan said:

                                I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

                                So is cal being dishonest every time he brings up Obama and his 57 states? Are you?

                                I was having a little laugh at something that happened *today* (in my timeline, I saw the news this morning). It will be old news tomorrow for me at least.

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                                  Fake news might be more prevalent on the right, but mainstream news cover left fake news such as "Villanova Trump supporters attack black woman" and then never bother to retract the story when it comes out as fake

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                                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                                  Fake news might be more prevalent on the right, but mainstream news cover left fake news such as "Villanova Trump supporters attack black woman" and then never bother to retract the story when it comes out as fake

                                  No one wants to comment? I suppose it's easier to bicker back and forth about misspeaks

                                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    Fake News exists on both sides, for sure, but I've seen polls showing it's a little more prevalent on the right. I'm not sure what exactly would be the reason for that. Maybe we'll see a swing with a Rep president

                                    NPR and CNN are just as guilty as Infowars and Huffpost when it comes to peddling dubious Op-eds as fact. NPR's post about the countries in the ban aligning with Trump's business interests comes to mind.

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                                    OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                                    @vaportrail said:

                                    NPR and CNN are just as guilty as Infowars and Huffpost when it comes to peddling dubious Op-eds as fact. NPR's post about the countries in the ban aligning with Trump's business interests comes to mind.

                                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                                    No one wants to comment? I suppose it's easier to bicker back and forth about misspeaks

                                    I would comment, but I've never seen NPR or CNN do that. If you have any examples I would like to see them.

                                    Ultimately I'm not talking about peddling Op-Eds as fact, though. We all know an Op-Ed is by definition meant for authors to express their opinions. That's why newspapers include the disclaimer on the bottom of Op-Ed pages.

                                    Here is an example of a fake news story put out by the guy interviewed in the OP,

                                    This story ran in a fake news outlet called "The Denver Guardian":

                                    http://alexanderhiggins.com/fbi-agent-behind-hillary-email-leaks-found-dead-murder-suicide/

                                    It was widely circulated, especially by Trump supporters, as fact. Snopes later debunked it:

                                    http://www.snopes.com/fbi-agent-murder-suicide/

                                    The person who owns "The Denver Guardian" is interviewed in the NPR link. He created a company called "Disinfomedia."

                                    he is also responsible for this website: http://nationalreport.net/ Read some of the headlines and it will become clear that it's a joke.

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                                      https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Villanova-University-Reported-Attack-Race-Student-Trump-400964815.html%3Famp%3Dy
                                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                        https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/villanova-student-allegedly-assaulted-trump-supporters-article-1.2871369
                                        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                                          I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

                                          So is cal being dishonest every time he brings up Obama and his 57 states? Are you?

                                          I was having a little laugh at something that happened *today* (in my timeline, I saw the news this morning). It will be old news tomorrow for me at least.

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                                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                          @gftchris said:

                                          So is cal being dishonest every time he brings up Obama and his 57 states? Are you?

                                          I was having a little laugh at something that happened *today* (in my timeline, I saw the news this morning). It will be old news tomorrow for me at least.

                                          I will probably bring up Obama's 57 states every time a conservative gets hit with misspeak that gets overblown but is it dishonest? Nah. I recognize it for what it is that happens to us all and some more than others. I was upset with CNN because they were still making snarky comments after Conway had clarified what she meant. That is being dishonest.

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