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  • Fake news might be more prevalent on the right, but mainstream news cover left fake news such as "Villanova Trump supporters attack black woman" and then never bother to retract the story when it comes out as fake

  • Fake News exists on both sides, for sure, but I've seen polls showing it's a little more prevalent on the right. I'm not sure what exactly would be the reason for that. Maybe we'll see a swing with a Rep president

    @mld-woody said:

    Fake News exists on both sides, for sure, but I've seen polls showing it's a little more prevalent on the right. I'm not sure what exactly would be the reason for that. Maybe we'll see a swing with a Rep president

    NPR and CNN are just as guilty as Infowars and Huffpost when it comes to peddling dubious Op-eds as fact. NPR's post about the countries in the ban aligning with Trump's business interests comes to mind.

  • I'm not sure what's worse, cal's scatter gun approach of just posting endless links, or OBF's text dumping an entire article instead of engaging in conversation.

    @gftchris said:

    I'm not sure what's worse, cal's scatter gun approach of just posting endless links, or OBF's text dumping an entire article instead of engaging in conversation.

    Feel free to respond to the article I posted. You posted a snarky comment about a misspeak by Kellyanne Conway and the article I posted gave the rest of the story. It was a simple misspeak that is being blown out of proportion by the media (and gftChris).

  • @gftchris said:

    I'm not sure what's worse, cal's scatter gun approach of just posting endless links, or OBF's text dumping an entire article instead of engaging in conversation.

    Feel free to respond to the article I posted. You posted a snarky comment about a misspeak by Kellyanne Conway and the article I posted gave the rest of the story. It was a simple misspeak that is being blown out of proportion by the media (and gftChris).

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Feel free to respond to the article I posted. You posted a snarky comment about a misspeak by Kellyanne Conway and the article I posted gave the rest of the story. It was a simple misspeak that is being blown out of proportion by the media (and gftChris).

    I'm blowing out of proportion? I'm free to make fun of her all I like, and we're not short of ammunition, with her 'alternative facts'. You could see her regret saying that before the words even came out.

  • Chris, have you been to each and every one of Obamao's 57 states?

    Libs hate subjects in the news that they want to ignore.

    Meanwhile, this is the left:

    http://mashable.com/2017/02/02/threatening-posts-secret-service/#7bEZeMWB05q2

    Over 12,000 tweets are calling for Trump's assassination. Here's how the Secret Service handles it
  • that is a hardcore liberal way of turning into terrorists because they lost the election.

  • Yep, and we can laugh at him for it as well. In neither case is it particularly relevant to much, just funny.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Feel free to respond to the article I posted. You posted a snarky comment about a misspeak by Kellyanne Conway and the article I posted gave the rest of the story. It was a simple misspeak that is being blown out of proportion by the media (and gftChris).

    I'm blowing out of proportion? I'm free to make fun of her all I like, and we're not short of ammunition, with her 'alternative facts'. You could see her regret saying that before the words even came out.

    @gftchris said:

    I'm blowing out of proportion? I'm free to make fun of her all I like, and we're not short of ammunition, with her 'alternative facts'. You could see her regret saying that before the words even came out.

    It was misspeak. She corrected the record. No big deal. It is not like she made a huge gaff like misspelling potato or anything that extreme (or 57 states).

  • "Can you imagine if Trump had said 57 states!!???"

    Now excuse me while I insult Obama for saying 57 states years after it happened.

    Don't give me that "it would so much worse" BS. For YEARS that was brought up on here as a way to attack Obama.

  • "Can you imagine if Trump had said 57 states!!???"

    Now excuse me while I insult Obama for saying 57 states years after it happened.

    Don't give me that "it would so much worse" BS. For YEARS that was brought up on here as a way to attack Obama.

    @mld-woody said:

    "Can you imagine if Trump had said 57 states!!???"

    Now excuse me while I insult Obama for saying 57 states years after it happened.

    Don't give me that "it would so much worse" BS. For YEARS that was brought up on here as a way to attack Obama.

    I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

  • @mld-woody said:

    "Can you imagine if Trump had said 57 states!!???"

    Now excuse me while I insult Obama for saying 57 states years after it happened.

    Don't give me that "it would so much worse" BS. For YEARS that was brought up on here as a way to attack Obama.

    I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

    So is cal being dishonest every time he brings up Obama and his 57 states? Are you?

    I was having a little laugh at something that happened *today* (in my timeline, I saw the news this morning). It will be old news tomorrow for me at least.

  • Fake news might be more prevalent on the right, but mainstream news cover left fake news such as "Villanova Trump supporters attack black woman" and then never bother to retract the story when it comes out as fake

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Fake news might be more prevalent on the right, but mainstream news cover left fake news such as "Villanova Trump supporters attack black woman" and then never bother to retract the story when it comes out as fake

    No one wants to comment? I suppose it's easier to bicker back and forth about misspeaks

  • @mld-woody said:

    Fake News exists on both sides, for sure, but I've seen polls showing it's a little more prevalent on the right. I'm not sure what exactly would be the reason for that. Maybe we'll see a swing with a Rep president

    NPR and CNN are just as guilty as Infowars and Huffpost when it comes to peddling dubious Op-eds as fact. NPR's post about the countries in the ban aligning with Trump's business interests comes to mind.

    @vaportrail said:

    NPR and CNN are just as guilty as Infowars and Huffpost when it comes to peddling dubious Op-eds as fact. NPR's post about the countries in the ban aligning with Trump's business interests comes to mind.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    No one wants to comment? I suppose it's easier to bicker back and forth about misspeaks

    I would comment, but I've never seen NPR or CNN do that. If you have any examples I would like to see them.

    Ultimately I'm not talking about peddling Op-Eds as fact, though. We all know an Op-Ed is by definition meant for authors to express their opinions. That's why newspapers include the disclaimer on the bottom of Op-Ed pages.

    Here is an example of a fake news story put out by the guy interviewed in the OP,

    This story ran in a fake news outlet called "The Denver Guardian":

    http://alexanderhiggins.com/fbi-agent-behind-hillary-email-leaks-found-dead-murder-suicide/

    It was widely circulated, especially by Trump supporters, as fact. Snopes later debunked it:

    http://www.snopes.com/fbi-agent-murder-suicide/

    The person who owns "The Denver Guardian" is interviewed in the NPR link. He created a company called "Disinfomedia."

    he is also responsible for this website: http://nationalreport.net/ Read some of the headlines and it will become clear that it's a joke.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

    So is cal being dishonest every time he brings up Obama and his 57 states? Are you?

    I was having a little laugh at something that happened *today* (in my timeline, I saw the news this morning). It will be old news tomorrow for me at least.

    @gftchris said:

    So is cal being dishonest every time he brings up Obama and his 57 states? Are you?

    I was having a little laugh at something that happened *today* (in my timeline, I saw the news this morning). It will be old news tomorrow for me at least.

    I will probably bring up Obama's 57 states every time a conservative gets hit with misspeak that gets overblown but is it dishonest? Nah. I recognize it for what it is that happens to us all and some more than others. I was upset with CNN because they were still making snarky comments after Conway had clarified what she meant. That is being dishonest.

  • @mld-woody said:

    "Can you imagine if Trump had said 57 states!!???"

    Now excuse me while I insult Obama for saying 57 states years after it happened.

    Don't give me that "it would so much worse" BS. For YEARS that was brought up on here as a way to attack Obama.

    I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states

    When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant.

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  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states

    When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant.

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    @mld-woody said:

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    When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant.

    I readily admit Obama is smart enough to know there are 50 states. My guess it was a long campaign day and he misspoke. When CNN kept up with mocking Conway after she clarified her position it was dishonest. Speaking for myself I mock Obama for his misspeak not that I think he actually believes there are 57 states.

  • HUH? CNN’s Brian Stelter says Kellyanne Conway hasn’t APOLOGIZED for her mistake…

    CNN’s Brian Stelter weighed in on the White House press briefing today, saying among other things that no one asked about Kellyanne Conway’s ‘Bowling Green Massacre’ comment yesterday and that she hasn’t yet apologized for her mistake:

    Hey Stelter, for a media guy you sure do miss a lot. Like this for instance, where Kellyanne Conway corrected herself FIVE HOURS AGO

    Kellyanne Conway ✔ @KellyannePolls

    On @hardball @NBCNews @MSNBC I meant to say "Bowling Green terrorists" as reported here:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-kentucky-us-dozens-terrorists-country-refugees/story?id=20931131 …

    I suspect Stelter has seen the tweet but feels she needs to do more than just correct herself or something. What does he want, a press conference with a tearful Kellyanne over a misspeak?

    C’mon dude.

    http://therightscoop.com/huh-cnns-brian-stelter-says-kellyanne-conway-hasnt-apologized-for-her-mistake/

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    So can you please explain where these stories are passing an Op-Ed as fact? Or do you mean that they are passing the incident as factual when it is unproven? If that's the argument, both articles do use the words 'reportedly' and 'alleged' which indicate that they are not passing it off as fact.