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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    "Can you imagine if Trump had said 57 states!!???"

    Now excuse me while I insult Obama for saying 57 states years after it happened.

    Don't give me that "it would so much worse" BS. For YEARS that was brought up on here as a way to attack Obama.

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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    "Can you imagine if Trump had said 57 states!!???"

    Now excuse me while I insult Obama for saying 57 states years after it happened.

    Don't give me that "it would so much worse" BS. For YEARS that was brought up on here as a way to attack Obama.

    I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

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      @mld-woody said:

      "Can you imagine if Trump had said 57 states!!???"

      Now excuse me while I insult Obama for saying 57 states years after it happened.

      Don't give me that "it would so much worse" BS. For YEARS that was brought up on here as a way to attack Obama.

      I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

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      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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      @oldbrownsfan said:

      I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

      So is cal being dishonest every time he brings up Obama and his 57 states? Are you?

      I was having a little laugh at something that happened *today* (in my timeline, I saw the news this morning). It will be old news tomorrow for me at least.

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        Fake news might be more prevalent on the right, but mainstream news cover left fake news such as "Villanova Trump supporters attack black woman" and then never bother to retract the story when it comes out as fake

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        @the-cysko-kid said:

        Fake news might be more prevalent on the right, but mainstream news cover left fake news such as "Villanova Trump supporters attack black woman" and then never bother to retract the story when it comes out as fake

        No one wants to comment? I suppose it's easier to bicker back and forth about misspeaks

        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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          @mld-woody said:

          Fake News exists on both sides, for sure, but I've seen polls showing it's a little more prevalent on the right. I'm not sure what exactly would be the reason for that. Maybe we'll see a swing with a Rep president

          NPR and CNN are just as guilty as Infowars and Huffpost when it comes to peddling dubious Op-eds as fact. NPR's post about the countries in the ban aligning with Trump's business interests comes to mind.

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          @vaportrail said:

          NPR and CNN are just as guilty as Infowars and Huffpost when it comes to peddling dubious Op-eds as fact. NPR's post about the countries in the ban aligning with Trump's business interests comes to mind.

          @the-cysko-kid said:

          No one wants to comment? I suppose it's easier to bicker back and forth about misspeaks

          I would comment, but I've never seen NPR or CNN do that. If you have any examples I would like to see them.

          Ultimately I'm not talking about peddling Op-Eds as fact, though. We all know an Op-Ed is by definition meant for authors to express their opinions. That's why newspapers include the disclaimer on the bottom of Op-Ed pages.

          Here is an example of a fake news story put out by the guy interviewed in the OP,

          This story ran in a fake news outlet called "The Denver Guardian":

          http://alexanderhiggins.com/fbi-agent-behind-hillary-email-leaks-found-dead-murder-suicide/

          It was widely circulated, especially by Trump supporters, as fact. Snopes later debunked it:

          http://www.snopes.com/fbi-agent-murder-suicide/

          The person who owns "The Denver Guardian" is interviewed in the NPR link. He created a company called "Disinfomedia."

          he is also responsible for this website: http://nationalreport.net/ Read some of the headlines and it will become clear that it's a joke.

          "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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            https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Villanova-University-Reported-Attack-Race-Student-Trump-400964815.html%3Famp%3Dy
            Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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              https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/villanova-student-allegedly-assaulted-trump-supporters-article-1.2871369
              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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              • gftChrisG gftChris

                @oldbrownsfan said:

                I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

                So is cal being dishonest every time he brings up Obama and his 57 states? Are you?

                I was having a little laugh at something that happened *today* (in my timeline, I saw the news this morning). It will be old news tomorrow for me at least.

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                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                @gftchris said:

                So is cal being dishonest every time he brings up Obama and his 57 states? Are you?

                I was having a little laugh at something that happened *today* (in my timeline, I saw the news this morning). It will be old news tomorrow for me at least.

                I will probably bring up Obama's 57 states every time a conservative gets hit with misspeak that gets overblown but is it dishonest? Nah. I recognize it for what it is that happens to us all and some more than others. I was upset with CNN because they were still making snarky comments after Conway had clarified what she meant. That is being dishonest.

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                  @mld-woody said:

                  "Can you imagine if Trump had said 57 states!!???"

                  Now excuse me while I insult Obama for saying 57 states years after it happened.

                  Don't give me that "it would so much worse" BS. For YEARS that was brought up on here as a way to attack Obama.

                  I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states but I always knew that was a misspeak by Obama and he knew there were only 50 states. I never thought he was that dense. When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant. Conway misspoke on the Bowling Green massacre but she corrected the record and CNN is still going on about it as if she hasn't corrected the record. That is just being dishonest.

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                  I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states

                  When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant.

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                  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                    I don't have a problem with mocking anyone for a misspeak such as Obama's 57 states

                    When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant.

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                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    @mld-woody said:

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                    When someone corrects their misspeak though it is dishonest to keep throwing it back at them like it was something they really meant.

                    I readily admit Obama is smart enough to know there are 50 states. My guess it was a long campaign day and he misspoke. When CNN kept up with mocking Conway after she clarified her position it was dishonest. Speaking for myself I mock Obama for his misspeak not that I think he actually believes there are 57 states.

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                      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      HUH? CNN’s Brian Stelter says Kellyanne Conway hasn’t APOLOGIZED for her mistake…

                      CNN’s Brian Stelter weighed in on the White House press briefing today, saying among other things that no one asked about Kellyanne Conway’s ‘Bowling Green Massacre’ comment yesterday and that she hasn’t yet apologized for her mistake:

                      Hey Stelter, for a media guy you sure do miss a lot. Like this for instance, where Kellyanne Conway corrected herself FIVE HOURS AGO

                      Kellyanne Conway ✔ @KellyannePolls

                      On @hardball @NBCNews @MSNBC I meant to say "Bowling Green terrorists" as reported here:

                      http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-kentucky-us-dozens-terrorists-country-refugees/story?id=20931131 …

                      I suspect Stelter has seen the tweet but feels she needs to do more than just correct herself or something. What does he want, a press conference with a tearful Kellyanne over a misspeak?

                      C’mon dude.

                      http://therightscoop.com/huh-cnns-brian-stelter-says-kellyanne-conway-hasnt-apologized-for-her-mistake/

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                        https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Villanova-University-Reported-Attack-Race-Student-Trump-400964815.html%3Famp%3Dy
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                        @the-cysko-kid said:

                        https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Villanova-University-Reported-Attack-Race-Student-Trump-400964815.html%3Famp%3Dy

                        @the-cysko-kid said:

                        https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/villanova-student-allegedly-assaulted-trump-supporters-article-1.2871369

                        So can you please explain where these stories are passing an Op-Ed as fact? Or do you mean that they are passing the incident as factual when it is unproven? If that's the argument, both articles do use the words 'reportedly' and 'alleged' which indicate that they are not passing it off as fact.

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          now about NOT fake news:

                          France tracks '15,000 terror suspects' but prisons are full - The Local
                          www.thelocal.fr/.../france-needs-10000-new-prison-places-for-15000-ex...
                          Sep 12, 2016 - France tracks '15,000 terror suspects' but prisons are full ... also said that some15,000 potential terror suspects are now being closely watched.
                          French Terrorism Watch List Overflowing with 15,000 Potential ...
                          counterjihad.com/french-terrorism-watch-list-overflowing-15000-potenti...
                          Oct 11, 2016 - Terror watch lists help track potential terrorists, but they are only as good as the validity of the indicators to get on the list, the intelligence on the suspects, ... France's terrorwatch list with its 15,000 individuals gives insight into ...
                          French PM: Terror threat is 'maximal' - CNN.com
                          www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/world/france-terror-threat/
                          Sep 12, 2016 - The French prime minister issued a stark warning to the country Sunday: ... JUST WATCHED ... European officials: 30 to 40 ISIS suspects at large ... in France are monitoring 15,000 people in process of radicalization, PM says.
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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            typical, hard core liberals LOVE fake news when it's to their

                            political advantage. Then they use it as a weapon...

                            but eight years of obamao, why, they hate fake news...even if it isn't fake.

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                              typical, hard core liberals LOVE fake news when it's to their

                              political advantage. Then they use it as a weapon...

                              but eight years of obamao, why, they hate fake news...even if it isn't fake.

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                              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                              @calfoxwc said:

                              typical, hard core liberals LOVE fake news when it's to their

                              political advantage. Then they use it as a weapon...

                              but eight years of obamao, why, they hate fake news...even if it isn't fake.

                              The liberals have had a monopoly on the news for many years. It wasn't until the new media of the internet, cable news along with talk radio that the stranglehold was finally broken. The liberal media cannot stand they lost their almost total control of the news and now they want to shut down alternative news anyway they can. When it comes to fake news the MSM has had plenty of it's share of edited videos and misleading stories and not telling the truth. They are laughable when they call others fake news.

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                                they got their jollies with "fake news" of Bush and Cheney outing

                                Julie Plame.

                                but they never did. When we finally knew who actually DID... they

                                still happily bashed Bush and Cheney for it. for years. right on this board, even.

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                                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                  The conway strikes again. She is a cooky flake

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                                    The conway strikes again. She is a cooky flake

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                                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                    @clevfan4life said:

                                    The conway strikes again. She is a cooky flake

                                    If that was true she would be a democrat. 😁

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                                      @the-cysko-kid said:

                                      https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Villanova-University-Reported-Attack-Race-Student-Trump-400964815.html%3Famp%3Dy

                                      @the-cysko-kid said:

                                      https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/villanova-student-allegedly-assaulted-trump-supporters-article-1.2871369

                                      So can you please explain where these stories are passing an Op-Ed as fact? Or do you mean that they are passing the incident as factual when it is unproven? If that's the argument, both articles do use the words 'reportedly' and 'alleged' which indicate that they are not passing it off as fact.

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                                      @osiris said:

                                      So can you please explain where these stories are passing an Op-Ed as fact? Or do you mean that they are passing the incident as factual when it is unproven? If that's the argument, both articles do use the words 'reportedly' and 'alleged' which indicate that they are not passing it off as fact.

                                      You're a smart guy. I know that, so let me ask you a serious question. Do you think that matters to the legions of left-cals that ran with it? All that matters is the initial perception because perception is reality

                                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        The conway strikes again. She is a cooky flake

                                        If that was true she would be a democrat. 😁

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                                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                                        If that was true she would be a democrat. 😁

                                        Cmon obf, that is one odd bird and you know it

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                                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                          http://ll-media.tmz.com/2017/01/20/0120-kellyanne-conoway-nutcracker-reuters-3.jpg

                                          I rest my case

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