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  • do it yourself, look around the world. Look at Germany. If you want to contest

    what is being said, do your own research.

    If just one percent of Muslim immigrants/refugees want to come here to

    murder us, blow us up..

    Most Real Americans want to stop that one percent.

  • do it yourself, look around the world. Look at Germany. If you want to contest

    what is being said, do your own research.

    If just one percent of Muslim immigrants/refugees want to come here to

    murder us, blow us up..

    Most Real Americans want to stop that one percent.

    @calfoxwc said:

    do it yourself, look around the world. Look at Germany. If you want to contest

    what is being said, do your own research.

    If just one percent of Muslim immigrants/refugees want to come here to

    murder us, blow us up..

    Most Real Americans want to stop that one percent.

    You know the answer but it doesn't support your agenda. While no one, yeah you're favorite "lib targets" as well, want to see a terrorist act occur in the US. Many of us abhor rape, gang assassination, child abuse, etc. which a much, much more prevalent and wish time, energy and resources would be applied to solving these issues instead.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    The rest of the world has space and can take their chances on trying to vet refugees from countries with wrecked infrastructure and no means to identify them. Removing terrorism from the mix, I wouldn't want to potentially live next to some guy who was a career thief or committed war crimes.

    You won't have to if you have the means to live in the neighborhood you want to live in. If you don't have those means you could be living next to a career violent criminal as we speak.

    @baconhound said:

    You won't have to if you have the means to live in the neighborhood you want to live in. If you don't have those means you could be living next to a career violent criminal as we speak.

    I can also go online and find said career criminal to know I live next to a career criminal. He will also very likely already be on parole and a bad piss test away from going back.

  • @westside-steve said:

    We have always known where Fox News stands and why. Same thing with MSNBC.

    Now the mainstream media is more playing by the same rules.

    The point I'm making is that the Liberals usually cry that anti-immigration from dangerous places is based on fear.

    WSS

    So the current anti-immigration climate isn't based on fear? Isn't the dominant narrative among the right that immigration will let terrorists get into the country? If that isn't fear what is it based on then?

    @osiris said:

    So the current anti-immigration climate isn't based on fear? Isn't the dominant narrative among the right that immigration will let terrorists get into the country? If that isn't fear what is it based on then?

    No more or less than any laws or any practices based on protection of your family or your fellow Americans. We have a standing army we have a police force a fire department speed limits laws Against Drunk Driving we lock our doors and crack dealers are hopefully thrown in jail. Do you think that's because we are a bunch of pussies? Scared of fire or crime or addictive drugs? If you'd like to construe that as that we are a bunch of cowards go ahead. As far as characterizing anti-terrorist as anti-immigration I think that's bullshit.

    But the MSM is helping disprove that bullshit.

    WSS

  • A refugee who happens to be a scumbag would just wander in with a clean slate.

  • @baconhound said:

    You won't have to if you have the means to live in the neighborhood you want to live in. If you don't have those means you could be living next to a career violent criminal as we speak.

    I can also go online and find said career criminal to know I live next to a career criminal. He will also very likely already be on parole and a bad piss test away from going back.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I can also go online and find said career criminal to know I live next to a career criminal. He will also very likely already be on parole and a bad piss test away from going back.

    Ok, so you know MAY no a felon lives next to you. I say MAY because few municipalities maintain online felony databases for non-sex offenders, hence all the background checking agencies. The knowledge alone is basically meaningless unless you move and you could do the same if anyone else moved next to you.

  • @osiris said:

    So the current anti-immigration climate isn't based on fear? Isn't the dominant narrative among the right that immigration will let terrorists get into the country? If that isn't fear what is it based on then?

    No more or less than any laws or any practices based on protection of your family or your fellow Americans. We have a standing army we have a police force a fire department speed limits laws Against Drunk Driving we lock our doors and crack dealers are hopefully thrown in jail. Do you think that's because we are a bunch of pussies? Scared of fire or crime or addictive drugs? If you'd like to construe that as that we are a bunch of cowards go ahead. As far as characterizing anti-terrorist as anti-immigration I think that's bullshit.

    But the MSM is helping disprove that bullshit.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    No more or less than any laws or any practices based on protection of your family or your fellow Americans. We have a standing army we have a police force a fire department speed limits laws Against Drunk Driving we lock our doors and crack dealers are hopefully thrown in jail. Do you think that's because we are a bunch of pussies? Scared of fire or crime or addictive drugs? If you'd like to construe that as that we are a bunch of cowards go ahead. As far as characterizing anti-terrorist as anti-immigration I think that's bullshit.

    But the MSM is helping disprove that bullshit.

    WSS

    You may think it's not what you're saying but the policies are already affecting the healthcare industry.

    http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-physician-relationships/5-physicians-affected-by-trump-s-immigration-executive-order.html

  • You aren't making any sense. You don't willy-nilly let all drug cartels,

    radical terrorist Muslims etc, into our country, THEN work to

    solve "the problem".

    WTF ? Why do you liberals WANT the problem to come here? so you can

    use the crisis...

    ah. so there ya go. that's the only explanation that makes sense.

  • Well logic is a CCW traitor among other things so I would assume that he could take some sort of precautions if felons are moved into his neighborhood that wouldn't make him a pussy.

    😉

    WSS

  • @osiris said:

    So the current anti-immigration climate isn't based on fear? Isn't the dominant narrative among the right that immigration will let terrorists get into the country? If that isn't fear what is it based on then?

    No more or less than any laws or any practices based on protection of your family or your fellow Americans. We have a standing army we have a police force a fire department speed limits laws Against Drunk Driving we lock our doors and crack dealers are hopefully thrown in jail. Do you think that's because we are a bunch of pussies? Scared of fire or crime or addictive drugs? If you'd like to construe that as that we are a bunch of cowards go ahead. As far as characterizing anti-terrorist as anti-immigration I think that's bullshit.

    But the MSM is helping disprove that bullshit.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    No more or less than any laws or any practices based on protection of your family or your fellow Americans. We have a standing army we have a police force a fire department speed limits laws Against Drunk Driving we lock our doors and crack dealers are hopefully thrown in jail. Do you think that's because we are a bunch of pussies? Scared of fire or crime or addictive drugs? If you'd like to construe that as that we are a bunch of cowards go ahead. As far as characterizing anti-terrorist as anti-immigration I think that's bullshit.

    But the MSM is helping disprove that bullshit.

    WSS

    We have a police force because we have both factual data about crime and a fear of those crimes happening to us. We have a standing army because we have a plethora of historical information that without one you are likely to be invaded. The same can be said for fire departments. The fear is justified by data, so of course we have those things. So does every country on the planet.

    The idea that an immigration ban will keep terrorists out has little data to support it and is based more on fear. I prefer our policies are backed by data. Otherwise, we're just wasting time, money, resources, and hurting our standing in the world.

  • @westside-steve said:

    No more or less than any laws or any practices based on protection of your family or your fellow Americans. We have a standing army we have a police force a fire department speed limits laws Against Drunk Driving we lock our doors and crack dealers are hopefully thrown in jail. Do you think that's because we are a bunch of pussies? Scared of fire or crime or addictive drugs? If you'd like to construe that as that we are a bunch of cowards go ahead. As far as characterizing anti-terrorist as anti-immigration I think that's bullshit.

    But the MSM is helping disprove that bullshit.

    WSS

    You may think it's not what you're saying but the policies are already affecting the healthcare industry.

    http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-physician-relationships/5-physicians-affected-by-trump-s-immigration-executive-order.html

    @baconhound said:

    You may think it's not what you're saying but the policies are already affecting the healthcare industry.

    http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-physician-relationships/5-physicians-affected-by-trump-s-immigration-executive-order.html

    five foreign dr's is not the entire industry. It's a grain of sand on an endless beach.

    It is unfortunate, that some people got caught up - but that is temporary. The other

    alternative would be to do the liberal thing and give people a few weeks advance notice,

    but then all the terrorists would happily flood in, happy to know they still had time.

    The open immigration garbage has to stop. Fixing a giant problem - like in plumbing,

    a few squirts of water, etc, is bound to happen, but the major leak must be fixed.

    And, you have to turn off the water to fix it.

  • Well logic is a CCW traitor among other things so I would assume that he could take some sort of precautions if felons are moved into his neighborhood that wouldn't make him a pussy.

    😉

    WSS

    So the same could be said if he felt uncomfortable with an immigrant neighbor, this really hard to grasp? You still have to follow our laws.

  • @baconhound said:

    You may think it's not what you're saying but the policies are already affecting the healthcare industry.

    http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-physician-relationships/5-physicians-affected-by-trump-s-immigration-executive-order.html

    five foreign dr's is not the entire industry. It's a grain of sand on an endless beach.

    It is unfortunate, that some people got caught up - but that is temporary. The other

    alternative would be to do the liberal thing and give people a few weeks advance notice,

    but then all the terrorists would happily flood in, happy to know they still had time.

    The open immigration garbage has to stop. Fixing a giant problem - like in plumbing,

    a few squirts of water, etc, is bound to happen, but the major leak must be fixed.

    And, you have to turn off the water to fix it.

    @calfoxwc said:

    five foreign dr's is not the entire industry. It's a grain of sand on an endless beach.

    It is unfortunate, that some people got caught up - but that is temporary. The other

    alternative would be to do the liberal thing and give people a few weeks advance notice,

    but then all the terrorists would happily flood in, happy to know they still had time.

    The open immigration garbage has to stop. Fixing a giant problem - like in plumbing,

    a few squirts of water, etc, is bound to happen, but the major leak must be fixed.

    And, you have to turn off the water to fix it.

    One article, I don't have 30 hours to post 100 links for you not to believe that everyone being kept from entering the US is a terrorist.

  • damn, not osiris's bs again. "no immigrants/refugees are bad"

    idiot. or Muslim propagandist. something wrong.

    Italy Report: 'More Immigrants = More Crime' - Breitbart
    www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/23/italy-report-immigrants-crime/
    Nov 23, 2016 - A boat full of would be immigrants is seen near the Italian island of Lampedusa on ... More alarming still, among illegal immigrants the crime rate soars to .... its participation in the UN refugee relocation programme indefinitely.
  • Arrest of refugee in rape and slaying in Germany threatens Merkel's ...

    www.latimes.com/.../la-fg-germany-refugee-murder-20161205-story.ht...

    Dec 5, 2016 - An Afghan refugee who came to Germany as an unaccompanied minor has been arrested in the murder of an EU official's daughter, raising new controversy over Germany's generous immigration policies.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    five foreign dr's is not the entire industry. It's a grain of sand on an endless beach.

    It is unfortunate, that some people got caught up - but that is temporary. The other

    alternative would be to do the liberal thing and give people a few weeks advance notice,

    but then all the terrorists would happily flood in, happy to know they still had time.

    The open immigration garbage has to stop. Fixing a giant problem - like in plumbing,

    a few squirts of water, etc, is bound to happen, but the major leak must be fixed.

    And, you have to turn off the water to fix it.

    One article, I don't have 30 hours to post 100 links for you not to believe that everyone being kept from entering the US is a terrorist.

    @baconhound said:

    One article, I don't have 30 hours to post 100 links for you not to believe that everyone being kept from entering the US is a terrorist.

    look, asswhole, nobody is saying all. Learn to understand English. Even if it's one percent,

    AGAIN, we must stop that one percent from coming here.

  • Refugees committed more than 200,000 crimes in Germany last year ...

    www.express.co.uk › News › World

    Feb 17, 2016 - REFUGEES in Germany committed 92000 more offences in the country ... It covers crimes by immigrants from January to December last year, ...

  • "But this reality should not undercut concern over the crimes immigrants commit. States with large immigrant populations, such as California and New York, have had to devote an enormous portion of their law enforcement and criminal justice budgets to investigating, apprehending, and incarcerating immigrants to ensure safety for the law-abiding. The federal government since the mid-1990s has stepped up funding of state and local efforts for this purpose. That many of the immigrants committing crimes entered here illegally (or overstayed their visas) adds fuel to the fire.3


    Given that the flow of illegal immigration shows little or no sign of slowing, further federalization of crime control, for better or worse, appears to be a fixture on the long-term horizon. As such, proposals for reforming the Immigration and Naturalization Service may be at best of limited benefit. In the final analysis, the most effective way of controlling immigrant crime is to better enforce entry and visa time limits, alter the main basis for legal entry from family reunification to employment skills, and lower the overall immigration ceiling."


  • Migrants linked to 69,000 would-be or actual crimes in Germany in first ...

    www.reuters.com/.../us-europe-migrants-germany-crime-idUSKCN0YT2...

    Jun 8, 2016 - Migrants in Germany committed or tried to commit some 69000 crimes in the ... U.S. expects to resume refugee admissions on MondayVIEW MORE. X ... The report showed that 29.2 percent of the crimes migrants committed or ...

  • Germany: Migrant Crime Skyrockets - Gatestone Institute

    Feb 21, 2016 - The actual number of crimes in Germany committed by migrants in ... Germany's Federal Office for Migration and Refugees (Bundesamt für ...