The Las Vegas Raiders
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yeah...I get that part too and maybe he would put up a large percentage of money to get it done. But there's no way the NFL is walking away from $750 million guaranteed public money in Las Vegas.
So, then, maybe they scale back the stadium project. 750 mill. coming from Las Vegas. The NFL is supposedly willing to put up 100 mill. If they can come in with a budget at 1 billion, that would mean the Raiders would just have to come up with another 150 mill.
Why cannot a really nice stadium...even a Dome, be built for 1 Bill.?
So, then, maybe they scale back the stadium project. 750 mill. coming from Las Vegas. The NFL is supposedly willing to put up 100 mill. If they can come in with a budget at 1 billion, that would mean the Raiders would just have to come up with another 150 mill.
Why cannot a really nice stadium...even a Dome, be built for 1 Bill.?
I've always wondered about that and why the Indians didn't pursue it way back when, the Brewers did.....
.....In some circles, outrage accompanied the 2001 opening of Miller Park, the Milwaukee Brewers' new home. The state senator who cast the deciding vote in favor of a sales-tax increase to pay the public's $290 million portion of the construction cost had been recalled in a public referendum, and three workers had died after a crane collapsed, delaying the stadium's scheduled opening by a year. The stadium's fan-shaped retractable roof proved problematic, necessitating a $13 million fix paid for by a settlement reached between the Miller Park Stadium District and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries of America, averting further litigation. That one signature element was a prime culprit in the stadium's ultimate $400 million construction cost, at the time the second-highest price tag for a new professional baseball stadium.
Over in the National Football League, little outrage accompanied the opening of Detroit's Ford Field or Houston's Reliant Stadium in 2002. The two buildings featured a fixed roof and a retractable fabric roof, respectively, and both were very much in line, cost-wise, with other state-of-the-art buildings of the time. Ford Field, designed to incorporate a neighboring warehouse, came in at $430 million, while Reliant's much-simplified retractable roof design kept the building's cost at $352 million, putting the two venues third and fourth at the time on the list of professional football stadium construction cost.....CONTINUED INTO THE BILLION DOLLAR ERA.......
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https://sports.yahoo.com/news/column-goodell-makes-clear-odds-against-las-vegas-060524198--nfl.html
Implying that Vegas deal is all but dead. Roger Goodell was always against it apparently.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/news/column-goodell-makes-clear-odds-against-las-vegas-060524198--nfl.html
Implying that Vegas deal is all but dead. Roger Goodell was always against it apparently.
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/column-goodell-makes-clear-odds-against-las-vegas-060524198--nfl.html
Implying that Vegas deal is all but dead. Roger Goodell was always against it apparently.
Yes plus every other NFL Commissioner who never wanted the NFL in Sin City, bad elements or just didn't want the Shield that close to gambling. Hey it's 2017, might be a passé consideration.
However many business people thought it would be a good or great idea.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/news/column-goodell-makes-clear-odds-against-las-vegas-060524198--nfl.html
Implying that Vegas deal is all but dead. Roger Goodell was always against it apparently.
Yes plus every other NFL Commissioner who never wanted the NFL in Sin City, bad elements or just didn't want the Shield that close to gambling. Hey it's 2017, might be a passé consideration.
However many business people thought it would be a good or great idea.
Yes plus every other NFL Commissioner who never wanted the NFL in Sin City, bad elements or just didn't want the Shield that close to gambling. Hey it's 2017, might be a passé consideration.
However many business people thought it would be a good or great idea.
If the $$$ is not there, the NFL won't go for it.
I do wonder if San Antonio may try to jump into the fray. They have a stadium that is better than Oakland Coliseum is right now.
But, of course Jerrah would not want that. Too many people apparently suck his dick.
But, it should be another option.
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Just one year ago, the Raiders to San Antonio was a hot topic. Died down since with their romance with Vegas, but, it could heat up again, no?
http://thedemotape.com/2016/01/15/san-antonio-raiders-could-it-happen-soon/
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Just one year ago, the Raiders to San Antonio was a hot topic. Died down since with their romance with Vegas, but, it could heat up again, no?
http://thedemotape.com/2016/01/15/san-antonio-raiders-could-it-happen-soon/
Just one year ago, the Raiders to San Antonio was a hot topic. Died down since with their romance with Vegas, but, it could heat up again, no?
http://thedemotape.com/2016/01/15/san-antonio-raiders-could-it-happen-soon/
I don't like three NFL teams in one state but CAL has it now, who knows even with Jerryworld there.
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Just one year ago, the Raiders to San Antonio was a hot topic. Died down since with their romance with Vegas, but, it could heat up again, no?
http://thedemotape.com/2016/01/15/san-antonio-raiders-could-it-happen-soon/
I don't like three NFL teams in one state but CAL has it now, who knows even with Jerryworld there.
I don't like three NFL teams in one state but CAL has it now, who knows even with Jerryworld there.
New York...theoretically has 3 teams (if you consider that they are called the New York....not New Jersey Jets and Giants.
Florida has 3 teams.
Cali has 4...for now.
Three teams in Texas could easily work....but no...Jerrah doesn't want that because he thinks SA belongs to him. Half the people in SA disagree.
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I don't like three NFL teams in one state but CAL has it now, who knows even with Jerryworld there.
New York...theoretically has 3 teams (if you consider that they are called the New York....not New Jersey Jets and Giants.
Florida has 3 teams.
Cali has 4...for now.
Three teams in Texas could easily work....but no...Jerrah doesn't want that because he thinks SA belongs to him. Half the people in SA disagree.
OR NY with one true team the 0-4 super bowl Bills....unless they end up in Canada then NY will technically have ZERONew York...theoretically has 3 teams (if you consider that they are called the New York....not New Jersey Jets and Giants.
Florida has 3 teams.
Cali has 4...for now.
Three teams in Texas could easily work....but no...Jerrah doesn't want that because he thinks SA belongs to him. Half the people in SA disagree.
I've been in Tex-ass a few times way back but that was closer to the Dallas and Houston OILERS era which they let left Houston without as much as a wimper. I remember a save the Oilers rally when there were more press than fans....no kidding! The BROWNS fans put up a way better fight.
Oh and now Tex-ass can try to get what they've always wanted three NFL teams and their own country.
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OR NY with one true team the 0-4 super bowl Bills....unless they end up in Canada then NY will technically have ZERONew York...theoretically has 3 teams (if you consider that they are called the New York....not New Jersey Jets and Giants.
Florida has 3 teams.
Cali has 4...for now.
Three teams in Texas could easily work....but no...Jerrah doesn't want that because he thinks SA belongs to him. Half the people in SA disagree.
I've been in Tex-ass a few times way back but that was closer to the Dallas and Houston OILERS era which they let left Houston without as much as a wimper. I remember a save the Oilers rally when there were more press than fans....no kidding! The BROWNS fans put up a way better fight.
Oh and now Tex-ass can try to get what they've always wanted three NFL teams and their own country.
OR NY with one true team the 0-4 super bowl Bills....unless they end up in Canada then NY will technically have ZERO
I've been in Tex-ass a few times way back but that was closer to the Dallas and Houston OILERS era which they let left Houston without as much as a wimper. I remember a save the Oilers rally when there were more press than fans....no kidding! The BROWNS fans put up a way better fight.
Oh and now Tex-ass can try to get what they've always wanted three NFL teams and their own country.
I am just saying that the San Antonio/Austin market is plenty big enough to support an NFL team. The population of that area is at least as big as half the NFL markets now. And they certainly are enthusiastic football fans.
They should not have to be relegated to being a "colony" of the Dallas Cowboys just because Jerry Jones is a greedy motherfucker.
Which is why he got elected to the HOF. Besides total greed...what has he really brought to the game of any substance.
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Here is a whiny asshole in this whole Oakland move thing. Bruce Allen, former GM of the Raiders says that "Oakland has no vision".
I mean....give me a fucking break. This is just another case of Billionaire welfare. Whaa, whaa, whaa....the city must give us a place to do our business.
Let me ask this question: any of you out there that own your own business....did your communities provide you with a location to operate your business, paid for to a large extent by local tax money?
I certainly do not have that.
I do sit on our local Community Development Board. We do encourage business to come to town. We try to find adequate locations, we provide loans, and sometimes we work with them to procure tax credits etc.
But we never give them a taxpayer paid facility.
I certainly do know that cities compete for businesses to come to town...or to stay in town. But nothing to this extent is done.
And the crying, bitching and whining by billionaires who don't get there way by getting free money? Childish. And maybe, just maybe, these cities are no worse off without the team in town.
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San Diego could be building a new stadium....with no public vote...or perhaps even public money involved
If this stadium deal goes through, they could target the Raiders to move there.....or...even ask the Chargers to move back.
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San Diego could be building a new stadium....with no public vote...or perhaps even public money involved
If this stadium deal goes through, they could target the Raiders to move there.....or...even ask the Chargers to move back.
San Diego could be building a new stadium....with no public vote...or perhaps even public money involved
If this stadium deal goes through, they could target the Raiders to move there.....or...even ask the Chargers to move back.
The Chargers are not moving back so forget that option. The Raiders would be the only target. These business owners and bazillionaires who are involved tried for years to help out the Spanos family to get a stadium done and they were told to shove it, we don't want you or we will take your money but you get no say in anything. So there is no way the Chargers move back to San Diego unless someone else owns them.
The Raiders are an interesting option.
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Talk about teams on the move I watched the ill fated XFL centered in Las Vegas on ESPN's 30 for 30 or how not to run a football league. It was only in existence for that one year when NBC lost professional football to FOX.
Interesting but way too WWF-like to appeal to main stream football fans, not even close to the defunct USFL.
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Talk about teams on the move I watched the ill fated XFL centered in Las Vegas on ESPN's 30 for 30 or how not to run a football league. It was only in existence for that one year when NBC lost professional football to FOX.
Interesting but way too WWF-like to appeal to main stream football fans, not even close to the defunct USFL.
Talk about teams on the move I watched the ill fated XFL centered in Las Vegas on ESPN's 30 for 30 or how not to run a football league. It was only in existence for that one year when NBC lost professional football to FOX.
Interesting but way too WWF-like to appeal to main stream football fans, not even close to the defunct USFL.
It was an interesting idea that just wasn't going to work mostly because they threw together the teams at the last minute and the football was horrible for the most part. I think had they went at it like the WWE and have it all be scripted so every game was exciting and you never knew who was going to win and have the teams that are the good guys and the bad guys (like WWE does) it might actually have worked.
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I hope they do get the Raiders. They would be a good fit with the military/ex military crowd.
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I hope they do get the Raiders. They would be a good fit with the military/ex military crowd.
I hope they do get the Raiders. They would be a good fit with the military/ex military crowd.
Plus getting a new stadium built in San Diego would be the ultimate fuck you to Dean Spanos who says it can't be done and has done more selling and marketing for his team in the 6 weeks since he moved to LA then in the previous 16 years combined in San Diego.
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@ghoolie said:
The best thing about the Raiders moving to Vegas is that I can get the fuck out of here. That's a win-win situation.
I get to root for a fun team, You ass-fucks get to continue your idiotic circle jerk without the nuisance of reality bothering you.
You're not tough enough to be a Raiders fan. The minute they start losing again, you'll be all touchy feely with fans of their biggest rival.
We've already seen this sequel.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...
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Vegas seems like the right fit for the raiders.
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@ghoolie said:
The best thing about the Raiders moving to Vegas is that I can get the fuck out of here. That's a win-win situation.
I get to root for a fun team, You ass-fucks get to continue your idiotic circle jerk without the nuisance of reality bothering you. Can you just imagine? Flugels can come in here every year and post his annual (anal?) horseshit about...............
"He's really going to whip that unit into shape"
"We finally have the right coach/assistant combination"
"He was really the brains behind (insert winning team that coffee fetcher came from)......
Wargogay can come in here and post that THIS YEAR............... "we will steal 2 from our division rivals, and beat 4 other teams"
Of course, then you can all openly say..................Fuck man, Ghoolie was right again.
Why don't you just change your allegiance to them now? Why wait? They probably aren't going to SD anyway.....and wherever they go, why does it matter?
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Annual League meeting coming up this coming weekend. At that time it is likely the Raider's move to Las Vegas will be voted on. The above article suggests that the move is a sure thing.
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