The Las Vegas Raiders
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Here is a whiny asshole in this whole Oakland move thing. Bruce Allen, former GM of the Raiders says that "Oakland has no vision".
I mean....give me a fucking break. This is just another case of Billionaire welfare. Whaa, whaa, whaa....the city must give us a place to do our business.
Let me ask this question: any of you out there that own your own business....did your communities provide you with a location to operate your business, paid for to a large extent by local tax money?
I certainly do not have that.
I do sit on our local Community Development Board. We do encourage business to come to town. We try to find adequate locations, we provide loans, and sometimes we work with them to procure tax credits etc.
But we never give them a taxpayer paid facility.
I certainly do know that cities compete for businesses to come to town...or to stay in town. But nothing to this extent is done.
And the crying, bitching and whining by billionaires who don't get there way by getting free money? Childish. And maybe, just maybe, these cities are no worse off without the team in town.
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San Diego could be building a new stadium....with no public vote...or perhaps even public money involved
If this stadium deal goes through, they could target the Raiders to move there.....or...even ask the Chargers to move back.
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San Diego could be building a new stadium....with no public vote...or perhaps even public money involved
If this stadium deal goes through, they could target the Raiders to move there.....or...even ask the Chargers to move back.
San Diego could be building a new stadium....with no public vote...or perhaps even public money involved
If this stadium deal goes through, they could target the Raiders to move there.....or...even ask the Chargers to move back.
The Chargers are not moving back so forget that option. The Raiders would be the only target. These business owners and bazillionaires who are involved tried for years to help out the Spanos family to get a stadium done and they were told to shove it, we don't want you or we will take your money but you get no say in anything. So there is no way the Chargers move back to San Diego unless someone else owns them.
The Raiders are an interesting option.
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Talk about teams on the move I watched the ill fated XFL centered in Las Vegas on ESPN's 30 for 30 or how not to run a football league. It was only in existence for that one year when NBC lost professional football to FOX.
Interesting but way too WWF-like to appeal to main stream football fans, not even close to the defunct USFL.
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Talk about teams on the move I watched the ill fated XFL centered in Las Vegas on ESPN's 30 for 30 or how not to run a football league. It was only in existence for that one year when NBC lost professional football to FOX.
Interesting but way too WWF-like to appeal to main stream football fans, not even close to the defunct USFL.
Talk about teams on the move I watched the ill fated XFL centered in Las Vegas on ESPN's 30 for 30 or how not to run a football league. It was only in existence for that one year when NBC lost professional football to FOX.
Interesting but way too WWF-like to appeal to main stream football fans, not even close to the defunct USFL.
It was an interesting idea that just wasn't going to work mostly because they threw together the teams at the last minute and the football was horrible for the most part. I think had they went at it like the WWE and have it all be scripted so every game was exciting and you never knew who was going to win and have the teams that are the good guys and the bad guys (like WWE does) it might actually have worked.
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I hope they do get the Raiders. They would be a good fit with the military/ex military crowd.
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I hope they do get the Raiders. They would be a good fit with the military/ex military crowd.
I hope they do get the Raiders. They would be a good fit with the military/ex military crowd.
Plus getting a new stadium built in San Diego would be the ultimate fuck you to Dean Spanos who says it can't be done and has done more selling and marketing for his team in the 6 weeks since he moved to LA then in the previous 16 years combined in San Diego.
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@ghoolie said:
The best thing about the Raiders moving to Vegas is that I can get the fuck out of here. That's a win-win situation.
I get to root for a fun team, You ass-fucks get to continue your idiotic circle jerk without the nuisance of reality bothering you.
You're not tough enough to be a Raiders fan. The minute they start losing again, you'll be all touchy feely with fans of their biggest rival.
We've already seen this sequel.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...
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Vegas seems like the right fit for the raiders.
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@ghoolie said:
The best thing about the Raiders moving to Vegas is that I can get the fuck out of here. That's a win-win situation.
I get to root for a fun team, You ass-fucks get to continue your idiotic circle jerk without the nuisance of reality bothering you. Can you just imagine? Flugels can come in here every year and post his annual (anal?) horseshit about...............
"He's really going to whip that unit into shape"
"We finally have the right coach/assistant combination"
"He was really the brains behind (insert winning team that coffee fetcher came from)......
Wargogay can come in here and post that THIS YEAR............... "we will steal 2 from our division rivals, and beat 4 other teams"
Of course, then you can all openly say..................Fuck man, Ghoolie was right again.
Why don't you just change your allegiance to them now? Why wait? They probably aren't going to SD anyway.....and wherever they go, why does it matter?
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Annual League meeting coming up this coming weekend. At that time it is likely the Raider's move to Las Vegas will be voted on. The above article suggests that the move is a sure thing.
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In fact, it seems that the NFL is giving the Raiders a big break to make the move:
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/03/22/las-vegas-raiders-relocation-fee-nfl-owners-meetings
According to this article, the league is only going to charge the Raiders between 325-375 million as a relocation fee. The Chargers and Rams were charged double this amount recently.
But here is one statement made about both the Raiders and Chargers move:
The NFL is not as strong with the Chargers out of San Diego and the Raiders out of Oakland. The NFL is not as passionate a league. Itβs a wealthier league. But itβs not a better league for people who consume the game.
Another question is: if the move to LV is approved, where will the Raiders play in the interim?
Stay in Oakland? Could there not be riotous activity over that....if the Oakland fans are that passionate?
Play in UNLV stadium? The Chargers are playing in a "tiny" 30K stadium. The UNLV stadium is not that big...and certainly not NFL caliber.
Go play in like San Antonio for a couple of years? Would SA want to be used like that? (or would it welcome it as a possible audition for a future team)
Play in the 49ers stadium in Santa Clara?
This was at one time considered as a potential permanent option for the team..It might be the most workable as a temporary solution.
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I would thinknthey would play at some university in nevada, stadium size be damned. They cant play in oakland....can u guys imagine what we would have done to the old team had they lame ducked it here for two years before moving to blt?
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I would thinknthey would play at some university in nevada, stadium size be damned. They cant play in oakland....can u guys imagine what we would have done to the old team had they lame ducked it here for two years before moving to blt?
I would thinknthey would play at some university in nevada, stadium size be damned. They cant play in oakland....can u guys imagine what we would have done to the old team had they lame ducked it here for two years before moving to blt?
That was us, not them. Apparently according to some reports it does not matter where they would play...Oakland/LA/Vegas, a lot of Raider fans will still be fans of the team and will support them no matter what.
I don't know if that is a cultural thing, a geographical thing, a generational thing or whatever.
But by no means would that be the case here.
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I would thinknthey would play at some university in nevada, stadium size be damned. They cant play in oakland....can u guys imagine what we would have done to the old team had they lame ducked it here for two years before moving to blt?
That was us, not them. Apparently according to some reports it does not matter where they would play...Oakland/LA/Vegas, a lot of Raider fans will still be fans of the team and will support them no matter what.
I don't know if that is a cultural thing, a geographical thing, a generational thing or whatever.
But by no means would that be the case here.
But by no means would that be the case here.
what wouldn't be the case?
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But by no means would that be the case here.
what wouldn't be the case?
what wouldn't be the case?
That the Cleveland fan base would continue its loyal following toward a team that moved out of town....such as is being suggested about Raider fans with the move to Vegas.
It just does not seem to me that the East Bay fans will switch their allegiances to the 49ers if/when the Raiders leave. I don't think that happened the first time when they went to LA....and at that time, if you recall, the 49ers were right in the midst of their dynasty with Joe Montana.
If they didn't switch to follow Joe Cool, why would they switch to follow the mess that is the 49ers today?
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I can see it now. Browns with a halftime lead over the Raiders after Carr goes down. A 12th man QB stumbles out of Caesar's Palace to beat the Browns in overtime. Browns fire Huey, Dewey and Sushi.
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I can see it now. Browns with a halftime lead over the Raiders after Carr goes down. A 12th man QB stumbles out of Caesar's Palace to beat the Browns in overtime. Browns fire Huey, Dewey and Sushi.
I can see it now. Browns with a halftime lead over the Raiders after Carr goes down. A 12th man QB stumbles out of Caesar's Palace to beat the Browns in overtime. Browns fire Huey, Dewey and Sushi.
Or the referees getting very nervous in the 4th quarter on the bets they placed before the game at their favorite sportsbook and start going wild with the PI calls vs the opponents.
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@ghoolie said:
I got news for you. If the Raiders move to Vegas, the team won't need any California fans to "migrate". Vegas in the NFL? The marketing goldmine is beyond the imagination.
No shit, the Raiders move to Ghoolieville, I am the fuck done with this bullshit franchise.
This is exactly what Jimmy Haslam wants.. People with the same exact attitude you have , so he can get a sweetheart deal.. and move the Browns elsewhere when the stadium lease is up in 25...
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@ghoolie said:
I got news for you. If the Raiders move to Vegas, the team won't need any California fans to "migrate". Vegas in the NFL? The marketing goldmine is beyond the imagination.
No shit, the Raiders move to Ghoolieville, I am the fuck done with this bullshit franchise.
This is exactly what Jimmy Haslam wants.. People with the same exact attitude you have , so he can get a sweetheart deal.. and move the Browns elsewhere when the stadium lease is up in 25...
This is exactly what Jimmy Haslam wants......... move the Browns elsewhere when the stadium lease is up in 25...
Why?........... and where?......
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