The Las Vegas Raiders
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I hope they do get the Raiders. They would be a good fit with the military/ex military crowd.
I hope they do get the Raiders. They would be a good fit with the military/ex military crowd.
Plus getting a new stadium built in San Diego would be the ultimate fuck you to Dean Spanos who says it can't be done and has done more selling and marketing for his team in the 6 weeks since he moved to LA then in the previous 16 years combined in San Diego.
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@ghoolie said:
The best thing about the Raiders moving to Vegas is that I can get the fuck out of here. That's a win-win situation.
I get to root for a fun team, You ass-fucks get to continue your idiotic circle jerk without the nuisance of reality bothering you.
You're not tough enough to be a Raiders fan. The minute they start losing again, you'll be all touchy feely with fans of their biggest rival.
We've already seen this sequel.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...
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Vegas seems like the right fit for the raiders.
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@ghoolie said:
The best thing about the Raiders moving to Vegas is that I can get the fuck out of here. That's a win-win situation.
I get to root for a fun team, You ass-fucks get to continue your idiotic circle jerk without the nuisance of reality bothering you. Can you just imagine? Flugels can come in here every year and post his annual (anal?) horseshit about...............
"He's really going to whip that unit into shape"
"We finally have the right coach/assistant combination"
"He was really the brains behind (insert winning team that coffee fetcher came from)......
Wargogay can come in here and post that THIS YEAR............... "we will steal 2 from our division rivals, and beat 4 other teams"
Of course, then you can all openly say..................Fuck man, Ghoolie was right again.
Why don't you just change your allegiance to them now? Why wait? They probably aren't going to SD anyway.....and wherever they go, why does it matter?
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Annual League meeting coming up this coming weekend. At that time it is likely the Raider's move to Las Vegas will be voted on. The above article suggests that the move is a sure thing.
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In fact, it seems that the NFL is giving the Raiders a big break to make the move:
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/03/22/las-vegas-raiders-relocation-fee-nfl-owners-meetings
According to this article, the league is only going to charge the Raiders between 325-375 million as a relocation fee. The Chargers and Rams were charged double this amount recently.
But here is one statement made about both the Raiders and Chargers move:
The NFL is not as strong with the Chargers out of San Diego and the Raiders out of Oakland. The NFL is not as passionate a league. It’s a wealthier league. But it’s not a better league for people who consume the game.
Another question is: if the move to LV is approved, where will the Raiders play in the interim?
Stay in Oakland? Could there not be riotous activity over that....if the Oakland fans are that passionate?
Play in UNLV stadium? The Chargers are playing in a "tiny" 30K stadium. The UNLV stadium is not that big...and certainly not NFL caliber.
Go play in like San Antonio for a couple of years? Would SA want to be used like that? (or would it welcome it as a possible audition for a future team)
Play in the 49ers stadium in Santa Clara?
This was at one time considered as a potential permanent option for the team..It might be the most workable as a temporary solution.
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I would thinknthey would play at some university in nevada, stadium size be damned. They cant play in oakland....can u guys imagine what we would have done to the old team had they lame ducked it here for two years before moving to blt?
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I would thinknthey would play at some university in nevada, stadium size be damned. They cant play in oakland....can u guys imagine what we would have done to the old team had they lame ducked it here for two years before moving to blt?
I would thinknthey would play at some university in nevada, stadium size be damned. They cant play in oakland....can u guys imagine what we would have done to the old team had they lame ducked it here for two years before moving to blt?
That was us, not them. Apparently according to some reports it does not matter where they would play...Oakland/LA/Vegas, a lot of Raider fans will still be fans of the team and will support them no matter what.
I don't know if that is a cultural thing, a geographical thing, a generational thing or whatever.
But by no means would that be the case here.
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I would thinknthey would play at some university in nevada, stadium size be damned. They cant play in oakland....can u guys imagine what we would have done to the old team had they lame ducked it here for two years before moving to blt?
That was us, not them. Apparently according to some reports it does not matter where they would play...Oakland/LA/Vegas, a lot of Raider fans will still be fans of the team and will support them no matter what.
I don't know if that is a cultural thing, a geographical thing, a generational thing or whatever.
But by no means would that be the case here.
But by no means would that be the case here.
what wouldn't be the case?
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But by no means would that be the case here.
what wouldn't be the case?
what wouldn't be the case?
That the Cleveland fan base would continue its loyal following toward a team that moved out of town....such as is being suggested about Raider fans with the move to Vegas.
It just does not seem to me that the East Bay fans will switch their allegiances to the 49ers if/when the Raiders leave. I don't think that happened the first time when they went to LA....and at that time, if you recall, the 49ers were right in the midst of their dynasty with Joe Montana.
If they didn't switch to follow Joe Cool, why would they switch to follow the mess that is the 49ers today?
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I can see it now. Browns with a halftime lead over the Raiders after Carr goes down. A 12th man QB stumbles out of Caesar's Palace to beat the Browns in overtime. Browns fire Huey, Dewey and Sushi.
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I can see it now. Browns with a halftime lead over the Raiders after Carr goes down. A 12th man QB stumbles out of Caesar's Palace to beat the Browns in overtime. Browns fire Huey, Dewey and Sushi.
I can see it now. Browns with a halftime lead over the Raiders after Carr goes down. A 12th man QB stumbles out of Caesar's Palace to beat the Browns in overtime. Browns fire Huey, Dewey and Sushi.
Or the referees getting very nervous in the 4th quarter on the bets they placed before the game at their favorite sportsbook and start going wild with the PI calls vs the opponents.
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@ghoolie said:
I got news for you. If the Raiders move to Vegas, the team won't need any California fans to "migrate". Vegas in the NFL? The marketing goldmine is beyond the imagination.
No shit, the Raiders move to Ghoolieville, I am the fuck done with this bullshit franchise.
This is exactly what Jimmy Haslam wants.. People with the same exact attitude you have , so he can get a sweetheart deal.. and move the Browns elsewhere when the stadium lease is up in 25...
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@ghoolie said:
I got news for you. If the Raiders move to Vegas, the team won't need any California fans to "migrate". Vegas in the NFL? The marketing goldmine is beyond the imagination.
No shit, the Raiders move to Ghoolieville, I am the fuck done with this bullshit franchise.
This is exactly what Jimmy Haslam wants.. People with the same exact attitude you have , so he can get a sweetheart deal.. and move the Browns elsewhere when the stadium lease is up in 25...
This is exactly what Jimmy Haslam wants......... move the Browns elsewhere when the stadium lease is up in 25...
Why?........... and where?......
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Why?........... and where?......
Believe it or not the NFL is near the saturation point, oh sure there might be a rare move like Oakland from that disgusting stadium but don't count on too many billion dollar super stadiums in the coming years.
Oh the NFL is now actively working on speeding up games, why? Well not for us old farts but it's to try and retain younger viewers which are leaving or just not that in to being a die hard lifer.
Ratings are sliding too, we'll see where that goes.
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@ghoolie said:
LMAO. Past my throwing prime, but I would fistfight any 3 NFL players back to back in 3 round fights. There isn't a player in the fucking NFL who could toss leather with me.
Ha tough talk. Myles Garrett would KO you with one punch like Joe Mixon did with the girlfriend.
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@ghoolie said:
When I stop posting, the board will die. I am the ONLY POSTER who management ever asked to return to the board because posting totals were down. Just remember that cock pus. I am here because I am the most highly read posted on the board. Like a QB, as goes Ghoolie, so goes the board.
Hey Beaver Breath, is this song about you or Vincent Van Gogh?
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Tennessee where Jimmy is from might be a place he'd go to..How does the Nashville or Tenesse Browns sound?
I like the name, Nashville Cats.
Cleveland has the Browns version 2.
It's not the Fake Browns. They are 'real Browns'. Just like the Browns fans that go to the games are 'real Browns fans'. It's just that the team has STUNK for 17 years. That has an affect on a fan base. It's new to Browns fans. The team was always pretty darned good in the 'old days'.
Here in New England, we could drive up to the stadium, buy tickets on Sunday and sit just about anywhere we wanted...in the 'old' days. But right around the time the Browns went missing the Patriots started winning superbowls. Now, it's tough to get a ticket.
It all depends upon which way the pendulum swings. Are you in a Good cycle? Or the Bad?
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Tennessee where Jimmy is from might be a place he'd go to..How does the Nashville or Tenesse Browns sound?
I like the name, Nashville Cats.
Cleveland has the Browns version 2.
It's not the Fake Browns. They are 'real Browns'. Just like the Browns fans that go to the games are 'real Browns fans'. It's just that the team has STUNK for 17 years. That has an affect on a fan base. It's new to Browns fans. The team was always pretty darned good in the 'old days'.
Here in New England, we could drive up to the stadium, buy tickets on Sunday and sit just about anywhere we wanted...in the 'old' days. But right around the time the Browns went missing the Patriots started winning superbowls. Now, it's tough to get a ticket.
It all depends upon which way the pendulum swings. Are you in a Good cycle? Or the Bad?
@ghoolie said:
<<I like the name, Nashville Cats.>>
The arena team may still have the trademark on that name, (Kats) play clean as country waterrrrrr
<<Cleveland has the Browns version 2.
It's not the Fake Browns. They are 'real Browns'.>>
Semantics. If you buy a new Indian Motorcycle, you have a Polaris, It can say Indian, but it is a Polaris. Nobody is ever going to pay vintage prices for a Polaris. It IS an Indian, but it is a "facade". So rather than say fake, let's call the existing team a facade. It is dressed up to resemble what once was. It is not unlike going to an attraction at Disneyland. For a moment, you actually believe you are in a movie scene. But it is a facade.
Players are constantly moving around these days. Modell sold the 'old' team off. Things change now-a-days. This is what the Browns are now.
I never said the fans were fake. hey are indeed authentic, albeit not well educated, and duped into believing a lie. You cannot blame Don Quixote for charging windmills and believing they were dragons. He was sincere, he was just delusional. Browns fans, like Quixote see what they want to see, regardless of reality. They are delusional.
<<It's just that the team has STUNK for 17 years. That has an affect on a fan base. It's new to Browns fans. The team was always pretty darned good in the 'old days'.>>
Unless you are 40, you do not recall the Browns being "pretty darned good". Losing is NOT new to a large percentage of Browns fans, it is not new, it is standard operating procedure.
Prolonged losing is new to the Browns fans. It takes quite some time for the results of prolonged losing to show.
<<Here in New England, we could drive up to the stadium, buy tickets on Sunday and sit just about anywhere we wanted...in the 'old' days. But right around the time the Browns went missing the Patriots started winning superbowls. Now, it's tough to get a ticket.>>
Not applicable. Absolutely not applicable. New England Fans are like Steeler fans. The Browns drew more home field fans during Nick Skorich's 3 - 11 debacle, than any of the Bradshaw era SB teams. What is happening now has far, far less to do with losing, and everything to do with having incompetent jackoffs running the team.
Goul, Patriots fans are as 'fly by night' as any others. New England is only Patriots Nation because they're winning. This is really RedSox Nation. When the Patriots suck the stands will be empty again.
<<It all depends upon which way the pendulum swings. Are you in a Good cycle? Or the Bad?>>
The Browns are the worst team in the history of the NFL. Never has a team been so totally incompetent. That's why the fans are waning, and that's why Haslam is likely to move this team one day.
Wrong. The Aint's and the Creamsicles were more incompetent the we've been. But we're workin' on it....
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