Jimmy Garoppolo Speculation
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@boo-fagley said:
Like Matt Cassel in the 2009 offseason? Cassel was 230th player taken in the 7th round.
NE franchised him and did not pay him the franchise tag amount. He was traded. Its the same scenario for Garropolo who was the 62th player taken in the 2nd round. The franchise tag binds the unrestricted free agent player to a 1 year contract to where he cannot just walk without the teams say so.
If he was given the franchise tag, then traded, then the team that traded for him had to have given him the franchise tag money, unless they negotiated a different deal.
Overall, I would say that the team that traded for him...if they gave him the franchise tag money....then that team was full of fucking dumbasses.
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We'll if he's traded he doesn't get much off say, so him being from IL has little to do with anything.@boo-fagley said:
Yes he will be traded because if Garrapolo hits free agency any team that wants now has to compete with with everyone that wants Garrpolo in for visit.
Would rather deal exclusively with 1 team the Patriots or take your chances competing against other franchises?
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@boo-fagley said:
Yes, McGoo dumb ass.
First Garrapolo has to sign the Tag. If and when he is traded a guaranteed 25 million signing bonus over 5 years is nothing. Plus, Garrapolo would recieve salary and incentives. Arsewieller was paid 21 million his first season in Houston and you are belly aching over 25 million.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/3/9/11143754/brock-osweiler-signing-free-agent-texans-broncos
I mean, do you get a cut of his salary? Are you and he butt buddies? Why this insistence that JG is going to be franchised and be given that money?
Nobody...I mean NOBODY, on here or on Planet Earth believes that would happen or that he is worth that.
And...the fact is: Osweiler may be a perfect example of why that is not going to happen. No one will pay that kind of money to an untested, unprove commodity like Osweiler/Garropolo again.
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@boo-fagley said:
Yes, McGoo dumb ass.
First Garrapolo has to sign the Tag. If and when he is traded a guaranteed 25 million signing bonus over 5 years is nothing. Plus, Garrapolo would recieve salary and incentives. Arsewieller was paid 21 million his first season in Houston and you are belly aching over 25 million.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/3/9/11143754/brock-osweiler-signing-free-agent-texans-broncos
That 25 million is NOT a signing bonus spread over 5 years. That would be his one year salary for the year he is playing under the franchise tag.
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@boo-fagley said:
McGoo
Garrapolo will be traded and he will receive no less than 25 million his first season. 25 million in signing bonus money with the new club.
Yea, sure. Keep thinking that.
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@boo-fagley said:
Still stuck on counting pennies.
How do you know what will happen?
You are welcome to throw me 25 million worth of pennies.
How do I know it? Because the people that run NFL teams are not as delusional as you.
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@boo-fagley said:
A signing bonus is a lump sum of money to be paid to a player when he signs a contract. This bonus is often a key aspect of contract negotiations, because it is the only truly guaranteed money in any contract.
We all know what a signing bonus is. It could be one dollar or many millions.
You just go ahead and keep dreaming and call us all when JG gets that 25 million dollar signing bonus.
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No one is budging...
Won't be long until we see how it plays out...
Carry on...
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$25m in signing bonus is a tall order for a QB with almost no NFL playing time. It's doubtful he'll receive that much as a signing bonus.
More than likely it will be a something like a three year $65 mil base extension with around $40 guaranteed, with plenty of escalators and a player option fourth. That puts him at a high annual number and is short enough that he can still get a giant Flacco-esque contract extension before he turns 29 should he become some sort of world beater.
EDIT: my math was wrong
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He'll get an Osweiler - Tyrod deal where he has to prove himself in two years and then he is either cut or extended.
Zombo
@boo-fagley said:
Still stuck on counting pennies.
How do you know what will happen?
Right back at ya- how in the hell do YOU know? Garrapolo has a smaller body of work than Osweilier, yet teams are going to pony up a dream trade & contract to the Patriots for Jimmy? Don't think so. Plenty of teams (not just the Browns) WILL count pennies weighing what Garropolo will cost against a rookie contract.
@boo-fagley said:
McGoo
Garrapolo will be traded and he will receive no less than 25 million his first season. 25 million in signing bonus money with the new club.
Homer, homer, homer. And Josh Gordon will be reinstated and lead the Browns and the league in yards and touchdowns.
Zombo said:
He'll get an Osweiler - Tyrod deal where he has to prove himself in two years and then he is either cut or extended.
Zombo
Point being Z- this year the Texans are squarely behind the 8 ball- they're stuck with suck in Osweiler.
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A fans comment on Garrett's video and Garrapolo: "It's ALL part of the Hoodie's master plan.....he's already sucked them in...Garrett gives them the brushoff, and then Garropolo becomes simply irresistable...he's feeding off their weakness...like a shark...."
:lol:Cleveland is going to find a way to really fuck this up. It's what they do best. Please God, just once, grant them a brain cell in the FO.
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@boo-fagley said:
Youre interpreting the word 'entitled" wrong.
The Patriots do not necessarily have to accept 2 - 1st round picks. They can lower compensation to what they see fit as value.
How do you know what any NFL team will do?
The franchise tag allows teams to protect their investment -- which is a significant value. Even if a team does not particularly want to keep a player, or feels a long-term deal is hopeless, it can tag the player and put him on the trading block, knowing the value of the player is greater than the compensatory third-round pick the team could receive for losing a high-caliber player to free agency.
What do you think washington would get if they tag cousins this year again, after he led them to two winning seasons the last two years (after winning 7 games total the previous two) with not a great deal of help from his defense? They might get a first round pick for him. Maybe. Jimmy G? Has shown nowhere close to even Cousins' level of play, consistently, because he's only played like 4 games in 4 years.
This whole concept of Jimmy being a sure fire thing worth even one first round pick doesn't seem to have much basis in reality to be honest.
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@boo-fagley said:
A 1st round pick for Bradford? How did that work out?
Pretty well actually... over 70% completion rate... 4:1 TD/INT ratio.
Zimmer is more than happy enough to hand the keys to Sam again in 2017.
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@boo-fagley said:
And Sam Bradford and Brock Arseweillier?
A 1st round pick for Bradford? How did that work out?
Funny you should bring up Osweiler - a guy who on a championship team for a few games looked like he could be a franchise QB but then when given the opportunity shat the bed with his play. You think that helps the case for Jimmy?
And Bradford - has tice now been traded for a first. Was the number one overall pick, played every year in St Louis (when not injured) and was already a franchise QB. Not really apples and apples here.
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@boo-fagley said:
And Sam Bradford and Brock Arseweillier?
A 1st round pick for Bradford? How did that work out?
Funny you should bring up Osweiler - a guy who on a championship team for a few games looked like he could be a franchise QB but then when given the opportunity shat the bed with his play. You think that helps the case for Jimmy?
And Bradford - has tice now been traded for a first. Was the number one overall pick, played every year in St Louis (when not injured) and was already a franchise QB. Not really apples and apples here.
Did he?Funny you should bring up Osweiler - a guy who on a championship team for a few games looked like he could be a franchise QB
I never got the bidding war over this guy. Got replaced by a 39 yo Manning on bad knees throwing quails ... That is how little Denver trusted him ... And they knew him best.
Shame on Houston.
Grop is a totally different guy. You may be cautionary, and thats cool and understandable, but that 7 foot dork doesnt have anything to do with him.
Zombo
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So when gipper is a willful participant in being trolled in a thread that is hilarious it gets shut down, but when gipper is a willful participant in being trolled by some random patriots pumper full of garropolo semen, its allowed to go stretch forward into infinity. This thread reminds me of battery commercials in the 90s. Energizer would have a commercial that said "we have the best, longest lasting batteries, then Duracell would have a commercial that said "we have the best, longest lasting batteries. Cmon guys, one of Gippers infinite loops was finally entertaining and it got the axe?
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So when gipper is a willful participant in being trolled in a thread that is hilarious it gets shut down, but when gipper is a willful participant in being trolled by some random patriots pumper full of garropolo semen, its allowed to go stretch forward into infinity. This thread reminds me of battery commercials in the 90s. Energizer would have a commercial that said "we have the best, longest lasting batteries, then Duracell would have a commercial that said "we have the best, longest lasting batteries. Cmon guys, one of Gippers infinite loops was finally entertaining and it got the axe?
The thread that had boiled down to three guys asking each other how their Dick's tasted? I think it had run its course.So when gipper is a willful participant in being trolled in a thread that is hilarious it gets shut down, but when gipper is a willful participant in being trolled by some random patriots pumper full of garropolo semen, its allowed to go stretch forward into infinity. This thread reminds me of battery commercials in the 90s. Energizer would have a commercial that said "we have the best, longest lasting batteries, then Duracell would have a commercial that said "we have the best, longest lasting batteries. Cmon guys, one of Gippers infinite loops was finally entertaining and it got the axe?
I don't even read the Gip - Boo exchanges. I think people are still talking about Garappolo around them hence the thread being open.
Zombo
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The thread that had boiled down to three guys asking each other how their Dick's tasted? I think it had run its course.So when gipper is a willful participant in being trolled in a thread that is hilarious it gets shut down, but when gipper is a willful participant in being trolled by some random patriots pumper full of garropolo semen, its allowed to go stretch forward into infinity. This thread reminds me of battery commercials in the 90s. Energizer would have a commercial that said "we have the best, longest lasting batteries, then Duracell would have a commercial that said "we have the best, longest lasting batteries. Cmon guys, one of Gippers infinite loops was finally entertaining and it got the axe?
I don't even read the Gip - Boo exchanges. I think people are still talking about Garappolo around them hence the thread being open.
Zombo
Zombo said:
The thread that had boiled down to three guys asking each other how their Dick's tasted? I think it had run it course.
I don't even read the Gip - Boo exchanges. I think people are still talking about Garappolo around them hence the thread being open.
Zombo
Can you take all Ghoolie's recycled jibberish and put it back into the chain fenced kennel once a week?
That even scared Atenears away. He forgot Ghoolie likes to play 50 Shades of Gay with Steel Orphans...
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