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  • T The Cysko Kid

    If Tom Brady hadn't been the best QB the falcons would have won the super bowl. But he was and they didn't

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    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @the-cysko-kid said:

    If Tom Brady hadn't been the best QB the falcons would have won the super bowl. But he was and they didn't

    Hmmm, where to rate this false equivalency? Hmmmm

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      @the-cysko-kid said:

      Nope. The emails didn't do shit. No one liked Hillary and no one that's not a total liberal shill wanted to vote for her, period.

      Thats a nice portion of kool aid ur taking in there. U think people liked trump? How many millions of people voted for trump simply because they couldnt take hillarys bullshit but would have voted for "any" gop nominee? And how many left leaning people just simply stayed home after it came out what a sham the dnc was?

      Sorry man but hillary snd the dnc lost the election. Bernie would have punch fisted trump, something the dnc prob realizes now.

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      @clevfan4life said:

      Thats a nice portion of kool aid ur taking in there. U think people liked trump? How many millions of people voted for trump simply because they couldnt take hillarys bullshit but would have voted for "any" gop nominee? And how many left leaning people just simply stayed home after it came out what a sham the dnc was?

      Sorry man but hillary snd the dnc lost the election. Bernie would have punch fisted trump, something the dnc prob realizes now.

      I know that the people that said that Hillary would win and Trump had no chance need to find an excuse as to why they were wrong besides that they all just believed their own bullshit

      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by Clevfan4life
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        And 2 weeks before the election they were right. Trump himself began to accept it. To say those emails had little to no effect on the outcome is pure delusion. Nothing like that had "ever" happened in american politics, so pls spare me the narrative trump was gonna win regardless....everyone knows hillaries dirty laundry being aired is what cost the stupid cunt the election.

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          @osiris said:

          What this country needs is a center-right or center-left unifier. Fat chance it would happen though.

          Unfortunately, the Americans weren't offered an alternative to a Billionaire Republican and a corrupt Democrat.

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          @canton-dawg said:

          Unfortunately, the Americans weren't offered an alternative to a Billionaire Republican and a corrupt Democrat.

          Well, sure they were. In the primaries. Both sides chose wrong.

          "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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            @canton-dawg said:

            Unfortunately, the Americans weren't offered an alternative to a Billionaire Republican and a corrupt Democrat.

            Well, sure they were. In the primaries. Both sides chose wrong.

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            VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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            @osiris said:

            Well, sure they were. In the primaries. Both sides chose wrong.

            Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.

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              @osiris said:

              Well, sure they were. In the primaries. Both sides chose wrong.

              Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.

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              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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              Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.

              Yeah no. Kasich or paul would have made immeasurably better presidents than trump. Especially Rand.

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                @osiris said:

                Well, sure they were. In the primaries. Both sides chose wrong.

                Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.

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                OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by Osiris
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                @vaportrail said:

                Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.

                If more of the same is buying a Toyota Corolla when you've owned them all your life, and decide for sake of change to buy a Pontiac Aztek, I will take more of the same.

                @clevfan4life said:

                Yeah no. Kasich or paul would have made immeasurably better presidents than trump. Especially Rand.

                This. Trump only accelerates America's pendulum swing between extreme left and right. Kasich would've been a more stabilizing force.
                "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  But he didnt insult enuff people so he was out. In 2 years when there's like 10 republicans in the house and senate combined they'll realize their mistake

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                    @vaportrail said:

                    Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.

                    Yeah no. Kasich or paul would have made immeasurably better presidents than trump. Especially Rand.

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                    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    Yeah no. Kasich or paul would have made immeasurably better presidents than trump. Especially Rand.

                    Yeah, Kasich's views on foreign policy are batshit crazy straight out of the Cold War, wanting to escalate with Russia. No thanks.

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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/14/report-soros-money-funding-john-kasichs-presidential-bid/

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                      • OsirisO Osiris

                        @vaportrail said:

                        Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.

                        If more of the same is buying a Toyota Corolla when you've owned them all your life, and decide for sake of change to buy a Pontiac Aztek, I will take more of the same.

                        @clevfan4life said:

                        Yeah no. Kasich or paul would have made immeasurably better presidents than trump. Especially Rand.

                        This. Trump only accelerates America's pendulum swing between extreme left and right. Kasich would've been a more stabilizing force.
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                        VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                        @osiris said:

                        If more of the same is buying a Toyota Corolla when you've owned them all your life, and decide for sake of change to buy a Pontiac Aztek, I will take more of the same.

                        Stance and action on TPP/NAFTA and LGBTQ issues makes your claim demonstrably false.

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                        • OsirisO Osiris

                          @vaportrail said:

                          Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.

                          If more of the same is buying a Toyota Corolla when you've owned them all your life, and decide for sake of change to buy a Pontiac Aztek, I will take more of the same.

                          @clevfan4life said:

                          Yeah no. Kasich or paul would have made immeasurably better presidents than trump. Especially Rand.

                          This. Trump only accelerates America's pendulum swing between extreme left and right. Kasich would've been a more stabilizing force.
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                          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          @osiris said:

                          If more of the same is buying a Toyota Corolla when you've owned them all your life, and decide for sake of change to buy a Pontiac Aztek, I will take more of the same.

                          This. Trump only accelerates America's pendulum swing between extreme left and right. Kasich would've been a more stabilizing force.

                          God save us from foreigners logic.

                          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            like obamao, osiris's lack of legit logic was learned overseas, apparently, at an earlier age.

                            Except, Os was a whole lot closer to being all totally soaked in Egypt.

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                              @osiris said:

                              If more of the same is buying a Toyota Corolla when you've owned them all your life, and decide for sake of change to buy a Pontiac Aztek, I will take more of the same.

                              Stance and action on TPP/NAFTA and LGBTQ issues makes your claim demonstrably false.

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                              @vaportrail said:

                              Stance and action on TPP/NAFTA and LGBTQ issues makes your claim demonstrably false.

                              Not really. Trump has brought with him lots of terrible "changes." Immigration ban was poorly conceived, judged unconstitutional by several courts and poorly executed. The man is alienating every other democratic country on the planet. Is anyone surprised his best friends are Putin and Sisi? Both authoritarian dictators who want to solidify their authority through silencing critics instead of putting forth good policy. Sounds familiar. His approval rating is currently 41%. That's worse than at anytime in Obama's presidency. Sounds like most people see him as a Pontiac Aztek, making my claim demonstrably accurate. Nice try though.

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                                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                yes, let all the Muslim extremists to get to our shores, typical

                                Muslim Brotherhood crap. And not one court deemed his TEMPORARY

                                HALT as unConsititutional They deemed it not politically acceptable.

                                Rationalized, that's what they did.

                                http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-09/court-appeals-rules-against-reinstating-trumps-immigration-executive-order

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                                • OsirisO Osiris

                                  @vaportrail said:

                                  Stance and action on TPP/NAFTA and LGBTQ issues makes your claim demonstrably false.

                                  Not really. Trump has brought with him lots of terrible "changes." Immigration ban was poorly conceived, judged unconstitutional by several courts and poorly executed. The man is alienating every other democratic country on the planet. Is anyone surprised his best friends are Putin and Sisi? Both authoritarian dictators who want to solidify their authority through silencing critics instead of putting forth good policy. Sounds familiar. His approval rating is currently 41%. That's worse than at anytime in Obama's presidency. Sounds like most people see him as a Pontiac Aztek, making my claim demonstrably accurate. Nice try though.

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                                  VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                                  @osiris said:

                                  Not really. Trump has brought with him lots of terrible "changes." Immigration ban was poorly conceived, judged unconstitutional by several courts and poorly executed. The man is alienating every other democratic country on the planet. Is anyone surprised his best friends are Putin and Sisi? Both authoritarian dictators who want to solidify their authority through silencing critics instead of putting forth good policy. Sounds familiar. His approval rating is currently 41%. That's worse than at anytime in Obama's presidency. Sounds like most people see him as a Pontiac Aztek, making my claim demonstrably accurate. Nice try though.

                                  I don't care if he's alienating Europe, they've relied on us for military force projection far too much. They've got the economy to field an army, so they can defend themselves.

                                  The immigration EO was poorly written, but the 9th circuit's decision will probably be overturned when raised to a higher court, per Alan Dershowitz, who is no fan of Trump.

                                  Don't really care about his approval rating so long as things get changed. NAFTA and TPP are changes, but you're welcome to ignore them all you like. Please explain to me why better relations between the US and Russia is a bad thing.

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    I don't think Trump's win was a win for conservatism/Republicans. He really was't a candidate like any other in recent memory. Then you add in Clinton being a terrible choice herself.

                                    It's great we finally voted for the non paid for, speaks their mind, non politician. It just also happened to be a guy that really has no idea what he's doing, and not acting like a president at all. Here's hoping that it all works out.

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                                      @osiris said:

                                      Not really. Trump has brought with him lots of terrible "changes." Immigration ban was poorly conceived, judged unconstitutional by several courts and poorly executed. The man is alienating every other democratic country on the planet. Is anyone surprised his best friends are Putin and Sisi? Both authoritarian dictators who want to solidify their authority through silencing critics instead of putting forth good policy. Sounds familiar. His approval rating is currently 41%. That's worse than at anytime in Obama's presidency. Sounds like most people see him as a Pontiac Aztek, making my claim demonstrably accurate. Nice try though.

                                      I don't care if he's alienating Europe, they've relied on us for military force projection far too much. They've got the economy to field an army, so they can defend themselves.

                                      The immigration EO was poorly written, but the 9th circuit's decision will probably be overturned when raised to a higher court, per Alan Dershowitz, who is no fan of Trump.

                                      Don't really care about his approval rating so long as things get changed. NAFTA and TPP are changes, but you're welcome to ignore them all you like. Please explain to me why better relations between the US and Russia is a bad thing.

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                                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                      @vaportrail said:

                                      I don't care if he's alienating Europe, they've relied on us for military force projection far too much. They've got the economy to field an army, so they can defend themselves.

                                      The immigration EO was poorly written, but the 9th circuit's decision will probably be overturned when raised to a higher court, per Alan Dershowitz, who is no fan of Trump.

                                      Don't really care about his approval rating so long as things get changed. NAFTA and TPP are changes, but you're welcome to ignore them all you like. Please explain to me why better relations between the US and Russia is a bad thing.

                                      Eggsfreakinzactly !

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                                        I don't think Trump's win was a win for conservatism/Republicans. He really was't a candidate like any other in recent memory. Then you add in Clinton being a terrible choice herself.

                                        It's great we finally voted for the non paid for, speaks their mind, non politician. It just also happened to be a guy that really has no idea what he's doing, and not acting like a president at all. Here's hoping that it all works out.

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        I don't think Trump's win was a win for conservatism/Republicans. He really was't a candidate like any other in recent memory. Then you add in Clinton being a terrible choice herself.

                                        Oh, I can agree with that. Establishment Democrats AND Republicans absolutely despise him. All the more reason for me to be happy I voted him in.

                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        It's great we finally voted for the non paid for, speaks their mind, non politician. It just also happened to be a guy that really has no idea what he's doing, and not acting like a president at all. Here's hoping that it all works out.

                                        I'm not really sure how you can argue that he has no idea what he's doing. Guy won the presidency in a landslide while spending considerably less than his opponents while being attacked by the media - the map hasn't looked like this for the GOP since Reagan. Arguably the worst move of his presidency so far, has been the EO on immigration, and only because it was poorly written. However, the 9th circuit's ruling was poorly argued - using Trump's campaign promises instead of the actual lawbased more on politics than constitutionality. It's going to get overturned when Trump either A - raises it to SCOTUS after appointing a new judge, or B - writes a new EO to circumvent the 9th circuit's argument.

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                                          except establishment republicans are not conservative, they are just pro-status quo.

                                          the type that keep electing fools like McCain, and others.

                                          Conservatives and independents, and dems who are sick of the years of politicians

                                          playing the game to just continue getting their benefits.....

                                          they talk good to certain groups, but in the end they won't/don't solve anything.

                                          It's time to drain the swamp, shake it up and start fixing things. Like terrorists getting an

                                          easy ride into our country. Like our debt. Like trade deals that leave us with

                                          chinese crap in all of our stores, job/industry losses, entitlements skyrocketing...

                                          etc etc etc etc. Those are the folks who elected Trump. We saved America.

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