Does trump not understand he cant talk shit to business's like nordstroms anymore?
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Unfortunately, the Americans weren't offered an alternative to a Billionaire Republican and a corrupt Democrat.
Well, sure they were. In the primaries. Both sides chose wrong.
Well, sure they were. In the primaries. Both sides chose wrong.
Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.
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Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.
Yeah no. Kasich or paul would have made immeasurably better presidents than trump. Especially Rand.
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Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.
If more of the same is buying a Toyota Corolla when you've owned them all your life, and decide for sake of change to buy a Pontiac Aztek, I will take more of the same.
This. Trump only accelerates America's pendulum swing between extreme left and right. Kasich would've been a more stabilizing force.Yeah no. Kasich or paul would have made immeasurably better presidents than trump. Especially Rand.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
But he didnt insult enuff people so he was out. In 2 years when there's like 10 republicans in the house and senate combined they'll realize their mistake
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Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.
Yeah no. Kasich or paul would have made immeasurably better presidents than trump. Especially Rand.
Yeah no. Kasich or paul would have made immeasurably better presidents than trump. Especially Rand.
Yeah, Kasich's views on foreign policy are batshit crazy straight out of the Cold War, wanting to escalate with Russia. No thanks.
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Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.
If more of the same is buying a Toyota Corolla when you've owned them all your life, and decide for sake of change to buy a Pontiac Aztek, I will take more of the same.
This. Trump only accelerates America's pendulum swing between extreme left and right. Kasich would've been a more stabilizing force.Yeah no. Kasich or paul would have made immeasurably better presidents than trump. Especially Rand.
If more of the same is buying a Toyota Corolla when you've owned them all your life, and decide for sake of change to buy a Pontiac Aztek, I will take more of the same.
Stance and action on TPP/NAFTA and LGBTQ issues makes your claim demonstrably false.
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Speak for yourself. Trump was the best outcome of all the shitty choices in this election. Unless, of course, you wanted more of the same.
If more of the same is buying a Toyota Corolla when you've owned them all your life, and decide for sake of change to buy a Pontiac Aztek, I will take more of the same.
This. Trump only accelerates America's pendulum swing between extreme left and right. Kasich would've been a more stabilizing force.Yeah no. Kasich or paul would have made immeasurably better presidents than trump. Especially Rand.
If more of the same is buying a Toyota Corolla when you've owned them all your life, and decide for sake of change to buy a Pontiac Aztek, I will take more of the same.
This. Trump only accelerates America's pendulum swing between extreme left and right. Kasich would've been a more stabilizing force.
God save us from foreigners logic.
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like obamao, osiris's lack of legit logic was learned overseas, apparently, at an earlier age.
Except, Os was a whole lot closer to being all totally soaked in Egypt.
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Stance and action on TPP/NAFTA and LGBTQ issues makes your claim demonstrably false.
Not really. Trump has brought with him lots of terrible "changes." Immigration ban was poorly conceived, judged unconstitutional by several courts and poorly executed. The man is alienating every other democratic country on the planet. Is anyone surprised his best friends are Putin and Sisi? Both authoritarian dictators who want to solidify their authority through silencing critics instead of putting forth good policy. Sounds familiar. His approval rating is currently 41%. That's worse than at anytime in Obama's presidency. Sounds like most people see him as a Pontiac Aztek, making my claim demonstrably accurate. Nice try though.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
yes, let all the Muslim extremists to get to our shores, typical
Muslim Brotherhood crap. And not one court deemed his TEMPORARY
HALT as unConsititutional They deemed it not politically acceptable.
Rationalized, that's what they did.
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Stance and action on TPP/NAFTA and LGBTQ issues makes your claim demonstrably false.
Not really. Trump has brought with him lots of terrible "changes." Immigration ban was poorly conceived, judged unconstitutional by several courts and poorly executed. The man is alienating every other democratic country on the planet. Is anyone surprised his best friends are Putin and Sisi? Both authoritarian dictators who want to solidify their authority through silencing critics instead of putting forth good policy. Sounds familiar. His approval rating is currently 41%. That's worse than at anytime in Obama's presidency. Sounds like most people see him as a Pontiac Aztek, making my claim demonstrably accurate. Nice try though.
Not really. Trump has brought with him lots of terrible "changes." Immigration ban was poorly conceived, judged unconstitutional by several courts and poorly executed. The man is alienating every other democratic country on the planet. Is anyone surprised his best friends are Putin and Sisi? Both authoritarian dictators who want to solidify their authority through silencing critics instead of putting forth good policy. Sounds familiar. His approval rating is currently 41%. That's worse than at anytime in Obama's presidency. Sounds like most people see him as a Pontiac Aztek, making my claim demonstrably accurate. Nice try though.
I don't care if he's alienating Europe, they've relied on us for military force projection far too much. They've got the economy to field an army, so they can defend themselves.
The immigration EO was poorly written, but the 9th circuit's decision will probably be overturned when raised to a higher court, per Alan Dershowitz, who is no fan of Trump.
Don't really care about his approval rating so long as things get changed. NAFTA and TPP are changes, but you're welcome to ignore them all you like. Please explain to me why better relations between the US and Russia is a bad thing.
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I don't think Trump's win was a win for conservatism/Republicans. He really was't a candidate like any other in recent memory. Then you add in Clinton being a terrible choice herself.
It's great we finally voted for the non paid for, speaks their mind, non politician. It just also happened to be a guy that really has no idea what he's doing, and not acting like a president at all. Here's hoping that it all works out.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Not really. Trump has brought with him lots of terrible "changes." Immigration ban was poorly conceived, judged unconstitutional by several courts and poorly executed. The man is alienating every other democratic country on the planet. Is anyone surprised his best friends are Putin and Sisi? Both authoritarian dictators who want to solidify their authority through silencing critics instead of putting forth good policy. Sounds familiar. His approval rating is currently 41%. That's worse than at anytime in Obama's presidency. Sounds like most people see him as a Pontiac Aztek, making my claim demonstrably accurate. Nice try though.
I don't care if he's alienating Europe, they've relied on us for military force projection far too much. They've got the economy to field an army, so they can defend themselves.
The immigration EO was poorly written, but the 9th circuit's decision will probably be overturned when raised to a higher court, per Alan Dershowitz, who is no fan of Trump.
Don't really care about his approval rating so long as things get changed. NAFTA and TPP are changes, but you're welcome to ignore them all you like. Please explain to me why better relations between the US and Russia is a bad thing.
I don't care if he's alienating Europe, they've relied on us for military force projection far too much. They've got the economy to field an army, so they can defend themselves.
The immigration EO was poorly written, but the 9th circuit's decision will probably be overturned when raised to a higher court, per Alan Dershowitz, who is no fan of Trump.
Don't really care about his approval rating so long as things get changed. NAFTA and TPP are changes, but you're welcome to ignore them all you like. Please explain to me why better relations between the US and Russia is a bad thing.
Eggsfreakinzactly !
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I don't think Trump's win was a win for conservatism/Republicans. He really was't a candidate like any other in recent memory. Then you add in Clinton being a terrible choice herself.
It's great we finally voted for the non paid for, speaks their mind, non politician. It just also happened to be a guy that really has no idea what he's doing, and not acting like a president at all. Here's hoping that it all works out.
I don't think Trump's win was a win for conservatism/Republicans. He really was't a candidate like any other in recent memory. Then you add in Clinton being a terrible choice herself.
Oh, I can agree with that. Establishment Democrats AND Republicans absolutely despise him. All the more reason for me to be happy I voted him in.
It's great we finally voted for the non paid for, speaks their mind, non politician. It just also happened to be a guy that really has no idea what he's doing, and not acting like a president at all. Here's hoping that it all works out.
I'm not really sure how you can argue that he has no idea what he's doing. Guy won the presidency in a landslide while spending considerably less than his opponents while being attacked by the media - the map hasn't looked like this for the GOP since Reagan. Arguably the worst move of his presidency so far, has been the EO on immigration, and only because it was poorly written. However, the 9th circuit's ruling was poorly argued - using Trump's campaign promises instead of the actual lawbased more on politics than constitutionality. It's going to get overturned when Trump either A - raises it to SCOTUS after appointing a new judge, or B - writes a new EO to circumvent the 9th circuit's argument.
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except establishment republicans are not conservative, they are just pro-status quo.
the type that keep electing fools like McCain, and others.
Conservatives and independents, and dems who are sick of the years of politicians
playing the game to just continue getting their benefits.....
they talk good to certain groups, but in the end they won't/don't solve anything.
It's time to drain the swamp, shake it up and start fixing things. Like terrorists getting an
easy ride into our country. Like our debt. Like trade deals that leave us with
chinese crap in all of our stores, job/industry losses, entitlements skyrocketing...
etc etc etc etc. Those are the folks who elected Trump. We saved America.
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I don't think Trump's win was a win for conservatism/Republicans. He really was't a candidate like any other in recent memory. Then you add in Clinton being a terrible choice herself.
Oh, I can agree with that. Establishment Democrats AND Republicans absolutely despise him. All the more reason for me to be happy I voted him in.
It's great we finally voted for the non paid for, speaks their mind, non politician. It just also happened to be a guy that really has no idea what he's doing, and not acting like a president at all. Here's hoping that it all works out.
I'm not really sure how you can argue that he has no idea what he's doing. Guy won the presidency in a landslide while spending considerably less than his opponents while being attacked by the media - the map hasn't looked like this for the GOP since Reagan. Arguably the worst move of his presidency so far, has been the EO on immigration, and only because it was poorly written. However, the 9th circuit's ruling was poorly argued - using Trump's campaign promises instead of the actual lawbased more on politics than constitutionality. It's going to get overturned when Trump either A - raises it to SCOTUS after appointing a new judge, or B - writes a new EO to circumvent the 9th circuit's argument.
Even if it goes to SCOTUS, the Trump argument is the weaker of the two. It fails a constitutional rational basis review, it discriminates based on religion (unconstitutional), and violates freedom of religion and equal protection values codified in the constitution. There is a reason it has been unanimously opposed by our judicial system. If it gets to SCOTUS before the new appointment is official, the best they can get is a stalemate, at which point the 9th circuits ruling stands. Even when Gorsich gets in, that is no guarantee. Justice Kennedy is not even close to a lock in Trumps favor and in a prior case involving a banned immigrant Kennedy wrote that an executive order is not beyond legal review.Oh, I can agree with that. Establishment Democrats AND Republicans absolutely despise him. All the more reason for me to be happy I voted him in.
I'm not really sure how you can argue that he has no idea what he's doing. Guy won the presidency in a landslide while spending considerably less than his opponents - the map hasn't looked like this for the GOP since Reagan. Arguably the worst move of his presidency so far, has been the EO on immigration, and only because it was poorly written. However, the 9th circuit's ruling was poorly argued - using Trump's campaign promises instead of the actual lawbased more on politics than constitutionality. It's going to get overturned when Trump either A - raises it to SCOTUS after appointing a new judge, or B - writes a new EO to circumvent the 9th circuit's argument.
Not only that, but Kennedy sided with the liberal judges in a case involving the rights of enemy combatants to be heard before a judge. if he thought enemy combatants had a right to a fair trial, do you really think he is going to rule for Trumps ban of civilians?
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
List of Islamist terrorist attacks - Wikipedia
Terror attacks by Islamist extremists to further a perceived Islamic religious or political cause ... United States, February 26, 1993, World Trade Center bombing, in New York City. 6, 1,042. India, March 12, 1993, Serial blasts in Mumbai, 257, 0.
List of Islamic Terror Attacks - The Religion of Peacehttps://www.thereligionofpeace.com/terror-2016.htm
2016.07.10, India, Kashmir, 3, 96, At least three security personnel are killed by a Muslim mob, angered over the death of a terrorist. 2016.07.10, Nigeria, Benue ...Killed: 615Injured: 740Countries: 13Suicide Blasts: 12
Islamic Attacks on America - The Religion of Peacewww.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/american-attacks.aspx
List of Islamic terror attacks on American soil, from TheReligionofPeace.com. ... New York City, NY, 1, 0, An Israeli rabbi is shot to death by a Muslim attacker at a ...
Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truthwww.thereligionofpeace.com/
mutilation even though a new case is reported every hour . .... A terrorist opens fire on a market and stabs a patron with a screwdriver. ... Islamic Terrorists. -
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seriously? Osiris ignores all this with his platitudes?It isn't our fault - it is happening all over the world, and has beenhappening for many, many centuries before we were a country.There is no way to post the details of all of the Islamist terrorism incidents. there is way, way, way too many. -
Even if it goes to SCOTUS, the Trump argument is the weaker of the two. It fails a constitutional rational basis review, it discriminates based on religion (unconstitutional), and violates freedom of religion and equal protection values codified in the constitution. There is a reason it has been unanimously opposed by our judicial system. If it gets to SCOTUS before the new appointment is official, the best they can get is a stalemate, at which point the 9th circuits ruling stands. Even when Gorsich gets in, that is no guarantee. Justice Kennedy is not even close to a lock in Trumps favor and in a prior case involving a banned immigrant Kennedy wrote that an executive order is not beyond legal review.Oh, I can agree with that. Establishment Democrats AND Republicans absolutely despise him. All the more reason for me to be happy I voted him in.
I'm not really sure how you can argue that he has no idea what he's doing. Guy won the presidency in a landslide while spending considerably less than his opponents - the map hasn't looked like this for the GOP since Reagan. Arguably the worst move of his presidency so far, has been the EO on immigration, and only because it was poorly written. However, the 9th circuit's ruling was poorly argued - using Trump's campaign promises instead of the actual lawbased more on politics than constitutionality. It's going to get overturned when Trump either A - raises it to SCOTUS after appointing a new judge, or B - writes a new EO to circumvent the 9th circuit's argument.
Not only that, but Kennedy sided with the liberal judges in a case involving the rights of enemy combatants to be heard before a judge. if he thought enemy combatants had a right to a fair trial, do you really think he is going to rule for Trumps ban of civilians?
Even if it goes to SCOTUS, the Trump argument is the weaker of the two. It fails a constitutional rational basis review, it discriminates based on religion (unconstitutional), and violates freedom of religion and equal protection values codified in the constitution. There is a reason it has been unanimously opposed by our judicial system. If it gets to SCOTUS before the new appointment is official, the best they can get is a stalemate, at which point the 9th circuits ruling stands. Even when Gorsich gets in, that is no guarantee. Justice Kennedy is not even close to a lock in Trumps favor and in a prior case involving a banned immigrant Kennedy wrote that an executive order is not beyond legal review.
Not only that, but Kennedy sided with the liberal judges in a case involving the rights of enemy combatants to be heard before a judge. if he thought enemy combatants had a right to a fair trial, do you really think he is going to rule for Trumps ban of civilians?
Yes, I do think there's a better chance of it going the other way. The EO was a weakly written EO, but the reasoning for the 9th Circuit's ruling was even worse. It resorted to Trump's statements made on the campaign to get to their ruling rather than the wording of the EO. I'm no constitutional scholar, but Dershowitz is, and here are his thoughts.
“I do not believe that this order constitutes a violation of the establishment clause of the Constitution,” the Harvard Law School professor emeritus told “Newsmax Prime” host J.D. Hayworth. “The fact that they picked seven Muslim states, those are the states that have high levels of terrorism. We’re talking about Islamic terrorism. When you focus on real victims or real perpetrators — and the impact is heavily on one particular religion, that doesn’t create a constitutional problem.
“So, I think that the Trump administration will ultimately win on that issue, at least as it relates to people who have never been in the United States,” Dershowitz concluded.
“The case will go to the Supreme Court,” the professor emeritus said. “It may split 4-4 — and that will be interesting, because we also have a case in Massachusetts where you have a liberal judge who went in favor of the Trump administration, even though generally he’s regarded as quite liberal in his views.”
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