Kyrie Irving thinks the earth is flat.
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Aghhhh, now we're gettin somewhere. This is exactly what people told themselves before they did unmentionable things for the proliferation of their religion. Ah well im not perfect only jesus was....fernando go kill that village that wont mine gold for me!! Man fuck my imperfect life.
And a layer of bullshit was just lifted, hope u paid attn obf
Your forgetting about judgement. We are all going to face it and give an account so grace is not a blank check to go out and do bad things, that is actually getting into an area of having a reprobate mind (people who are classified as having a reprobate mind have some knowledge of God and perhaps know of His commandments. However, they live impure lives and have very little desire to please God. Those who have reprobate minds live corrupt and selfish lives. Sin is justified and acceptable to them. The reprobates are those whom God has rejected and has left to their own devices.)
The reprobates are those whom God has rejected and has left to their own devices.)
Even if they take jesus as their lord and savior? Remember just being all sorry and such is enough. The church sells a few indulgences and bada bing bada boom im back in the lirds good graces
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The reprobates are those whom God has rejected and has left to their own devices.)
Even if they take jesus as their lord and savior? Remember just being all sorry and such is enough. The church sells a few indulgences and bada bing bada boom im back in the lirds good graces
Even if they take jesus as their lord and savior? Remember just being all sorry and such is enough. The church sells a few indulgences and bada bing bada boom im back in the lirds good graces
The bible speaks of repentance which is different than just being sorry. Repentance means an about face. So it is a sorrow for sin (definition of sin is missing the mark) and turning away from sin that is required. Sorrow for sin is not enough.
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Even if they take jesus as their lord and savior? Remember just being all sorry and such is enough. The church sells a few indulgences and bada bing bada boom im back in the lirds good graces
The bible speaks of repentance which is different than just being sorry. Repentance means an about face. So it is a sorrow for sin (definition of sin is missing the mark) and turning away from sin that is required. Sorrow for sin is not enough.
The bible speaks of repentance which is different than just being sorry. Repentance means an about face. So it is a sorrow for sin (definition of sin is missing the mark) and turning away from sin that is required. Sorrow for sin is not enough.
No personal offense but this all sounds exactly like what i would have told peopke if i was a spiteful, hateful entity trying to convince a lowlier species i was the be all end all and they should worship my ass.
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If you chose not to believe so be it. But I and some others chose to. You want call us ignorant have at it. I know that I'm an educated man and a good person, don't need you for confirmation.
Some of us have used our beliefs as the backbone of life of meaningfulness. Just because you have chosen not to do the same, doesn't give you the right to use our beliefs as a punchline.
Most Agnostics and Atheists I talk subscribe to science and reason. To me all the discoveries made by scientists no matter their personal beliefs confirm God's existence.
Most Agnostics and Atheists I talk subscribe to science and reason. To me all the discoveries made by scientists no matter their personal beliefs confirm God's existence.
How,?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
The problem with God is that he sent these messengers 2100 or 1500 years ago depending on which set of horseshit you believe and then he gave us all the finger. "No more prophets for you dingleberries"
If he made us he ought to know that was insufficient. God has bad judgement.
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The problem with God is that he sent these messengers 2100 or 1500 years ago depending on which set of horseshit you believe and then he gave us all the finger. "No more prophets for you dingleberries"
If he made us he ought to know that was insufficient. God has bad judgement.
The problem with God is that he sent these messengers 2100 or 1500 years ago depending on which set of horseshit you believe and then he gave us all the finger. "No more prophets for you dingleberries"
If he made us he ought to know that was insufficient. God has bad judgement.
A mere human cannot question god. You are a crab on gods nuts.
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I sometimes think the people who opted out of here are the ones who got it right. This place is a seething pit of ignorance as ti who and what we really are.
One side has these cool stories about anthropomorphic gods and godesses thatbtold people clear horseshit like they delight in the smell of burning flesh, exhibit A)https://www.google.com/amp/s/rarebible.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/god-loves-the-aroma-of-burning-animals-and-grain/amp/?client=safari
Dafuq you would want saddled with 72 wonen who are only virgins for one time for? Any of u married blokes if u think about it enough understand what a fresh living hell tgat really is
And on the other side we have hole in the ground material atheists who tell us we're nothing more than a randomized organic robot that sprung forth from the ether. And our thoughts and feelings are nothing more than chemical reactions adapted by our dna over the eons.
None of it sits right with me. This is why i lean toward philosophies that tell us you have to find for urself who and what the fuck you are. Let no man tell you cool stories he cannot corroborate definitively is the long and short of it. That nixes all the major religions tbh. Especially the abrahamic ones. But hinduism is chock full of some clown shit too if u ever read about it. Same convuluted "pinky swear" its all the real deal pure shiite rubbish.
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Wait, i thought eve was the sinner...what did adam sin again?
Wait, i thought eve was the sinner...what did adam sin again?
Depends on which religion you ask. Quran holds them equally accountable for the sin, stating that they both ate the forbidden fruit, and unlike Christianity, does not hold the children of Adam accountable for their actions. Therefore there is no concept of original sin in Islam.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
Wait, i thought eve was the sinner...what did adam sin again?
Depends on which religion you ask. Quran holds them equally accountable for the sin, stating that they both ate the forbidden fruit, and unlike Christianity, does not hold the children of Adam accountable for their actions. Therefore there is no concept of original sin in Islam.
. Therefore there is no concept of original sin in Islam.
Well you know i think its all bollocks, but at least islam gets some things right so a tip of me digital hat to u and ur islamic bretheren
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Wait, i thought eve was the sinner...what did adam sin again?
Depends on which religion you ask. Quran holds them equally accountable for the sin, stating that they both ate the forbidden fruit, and unlike Christianity, does not hold the children of Adam accountable for their actions. Therefore there is no concept of original sin in Islam.
Depends on which religion you ask. Quran holds them equally accountable for the sin, stating that they both ate the forbidden fruit, and unlike Christianity, does not hold the children of Adam accountable for their actions. Therefore there is no concept of original sin in Islam.
Conveniently for them way after the fact.
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Why would woody call bs on you being an ass, no im sorry owning an ass?
Eh, who saw what i did there? Raise ur hands
Why would woody call bs on you being an ass, no im sorry owning an ass?
Eh, who saw what i did there? Raise ur hands
A single donkey is used to fight off coyotes.
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I know you do, but if you believe in treating people right, helping the poor and needy, standing up for the weak, and that a person is the sum of their deeds, then you believe in things that Islam taught me. If you arrived at those beliefs from another route, then it's fine in my book.Well you know i think its all bollocks, but at least islam gets some things right so a tip of me digital hat to u and ur islamic bretheren
TBH I see religion as a formalization of natural law. What I mean is, we are all born with the ability to sense pleasure, pain, and fear. These are all survival mechanisms. We are also born as social creatures. So when a we gives someone food, we feel pleasure. When we are hurt or hungry, we feel pain. When we are threatened, we feel fear. As social creatures, we understand that our brethren feel the same, and therefore we want to give pleasure to others, heal their pain, and shelter them from what frightens them in the hopes they will do the same for us. This is what I mean by natural law. Codify this in the Ten Commandments and subsequent scriptures and you have religion. Being an atheist or agnostic doesn't mean that you are not subject to these natural laws. This is why I do not find it difficult to befriend atheists and agnostics and why people of faith shouldn't stand in judgement of them.
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I know you do, but if you believe in treating people right, helping the poor and needy, standing up for the weak, and that a person is the sum of their deeds, then you believe in things that Islam taught me. If you arrived at those beliefs from another route, then it's fine in my book.Well you know i think its all bollocks, but at least islam gets some things right so a tip of me digital hat to u and ur islamic bretheren
TBH I see religion as a formalization of natural law. What I mean is, we are all born with the ability to sense pleasure, pain, and fear. These are all survival mechanisms. We are also born as social creatures. So when a we gives someone food, we feel pleasure. When we are hurt or hungry, we feel pain. When we are threatened, we feel fear. As social creatures, we understand that our brethren feel the same, and therefore we want to give pleasure to others, heal their pain, and shelter them from what frightens them in the hopes they will do the same for us. This is what I mean by natural law. Codify this in the Ten Commandments and subsequent scriptures and you have religion. Being an atheist or agnostic doesn't mean that you are not subject to these natural laws. This is why I do not find it difficult to befriend atheists and agnostics and why people of faith shouldn't stand in judgement of them.
I know you do, but if you believe in treating people right, helping the poor and needy, standing up for the weak, and that a person is the sum of their deeds, then you believe in things that Islam taught me. If you arrived at those beliefs from another route, then it's fine in my book.
TBH I see religion as a formalization of natural law. What I mean is, we are all born with the ability to sense pleasure, pain, and fear. These are all survival mechanisms. We are also born as social creatures. So when a we gives someone food, we feel pleasure. When we are hurt or hungry, we feel pain. When we are threatened, we feel fear. As social creatures, we understand that our brethren feel the same, and therefore we want to give pleasure to others, heal their pain, and shelter them from what frightens them in the hopes they will do the same for us. This is what I mean by natural law. Codify this in the Ten Commandments and subsequent scriptures and you have religion. Being an atheist or agnostic doesn't mean that you are not subject to these natural laws. This is why I do not find it difficult to befriend atheists and agnostics.
And?
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Well you know i think its all bollocks, but at least islam gets some things right so a tip of me digital hat to u and ur islamic bretheren
Lol ok libtard.
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Well you know i think its all bollocks, but at least islam gets some things right so a tip of me digital hat to u and ur islamic bretheren
Yeah you like the idea that Osiris interprets religious texts how he sees fit, to fit his personal beliefs. But then when Muslims use the Quran to justify the killing of fags, the stoning of disobedient women, killing infidels, or fuck a goat they are simply misinterpreting the Quran. Funny how you say Christians are convoluted.
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Well you know i think its all bollocks, but at least islam gets some things right so a tip of me digital hat to u and ur islamic bretheren
Yeah you like the idea that Osiris interprets religious texts how he sees fit, to fit his personal beliefs. But then when Muslims use the Quran to justify the killing of fags, the stoning of disobedient women, killing infidels, or fuck a goat they are simply misinterpreting the Quran. Funny how you say Christians are convoluted.
Yeah you like the idea that Osiris interprets religious texts how he sees fit, to fit his personal beliefs. But then when Muslims use the Quran to justify the killing of fags, the stoning of disobedient women, killing infidels, or fuck a goat they are simply misinterpreting the Quran. Funny how you say Christians are convoluted.
I interpret it in the way that maintains logical consistency within the text of the Quran. I hope that idea isn't to convoluted for you to grasp. I am however glad to see that you agree with me that when people use the Quran to justify evil deeds, they are misinterpreting it.
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Well you know i think its all bollocks, but at least islam gets some things right so a tip of me digital hat to u and ur islamic bretheren
Yeah you like the idea that Osiris interprets religious texts how he sees fit, to fit his personal beliefs. But then when Muslims use the Quran to justify the killing of fags, the stoning of disobedient women, killing infidels, or fuck a goat they are simply misinterpreting the Quran. Funny how you say Christians are convoluted.
Yeah you like the idea that Osiris interprets religious texts how he sees fit, to fit his personal beliefs. But then when Muslims use the Quran to justify the killing of fags, the stoning of disobedient women, killing infidels, or fuck a goat they are simply misinterpreting the Quran. Funny how you say Christians are convoluted.
When i made the statement to him "to me it's all bollocks in the end", what do you think i mean by that? Let's put our thinking caps on. A few posts back i pretty much stated unequivocally that all the abrahamic religions in the end are pure rubbish. When you read a statement like that, what does it say to you? Lean back in your chair thoughtfully, maybe kick your feet up on the table to get some extra bloodflow to the brain and really mull it over. I await your findings.
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obviously there's some basics pretty much that all religions got right, not gonna give them divine credit for it cause they miss badly on so much else.....but i'm by no means excluding or favoring Islam.
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How,?
The universe and all of the creatures that live in it are far too complex to just function the way they do just because. They got that way and do the things they do just because? There's something out there in control of it all.
This life has left me with so many questions I have to get to heaven just to find the answer to them all.
I guess to really answer your question it's just my personal belief. Science just strengthens my faith. Perhaps because I chose to see it as such. Just as some see it as a means to destroy other people's faith. Free will brother....free will.
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How,?
The universe and all of the creatures that live in it are far too complex to just function the way they do just because. They got that way and do the things they do just because? There's something out there in control of it all.
This life has left me with so many questions I have to get to heaven just to find the answer to them all.
I guess to really answer your question it's just my personal belief. Science just strengthens my faith. Perhaps because I chose to see it as such. Just as some see it as a means to destroy other people's faith. Free will brother....free will.
If you have strong faith, you're mind can't be changed. You look for evidence to support your predetermined conclusion.The universe and all of the creatures that live in it are far too complex to just function the way they do just because. They got that way and do the things they do just because? There's something out there in control of it all.
This life has left me with so many questions I have to get to heaven just to find the answer to them all.
I guess to really answer your question it's just my personal belief. Science just strengthens my faith. Perhaps because I chose to see it as such. Just as some see it as a means to destroy other people's faith. Free will brother....free will.
If you choose the scientific, fact driven route, you welcome any additional data. You draw your conclusions from the evidence provided.
That's a big difference. If everyone thought the first way, we wouldn't get anywhere.
Also, "just because" is a gross oversimplification. But I imagine it makes the creationist viewpoint sound more legitimate...
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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