Man Shot & Killed For Being Brown
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boston - dem - high gun control
nyc - dem - high gun control
philly - dem - high gun control
la - dem high gun control
chicago - dem high gun control
yet, they have hideously high gun murder rates. anything else is bs.
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Which account for almost 2/3 of firearm deaths. I can't find the data but I'd bet laws make little to no impact on homicides by firearm. Homicides are already illegal.
Which account for almost 2/3 of firearm deaths. I can't find the data but I'd bet laws make little to no impact on homicides by firearm. Homicides are already illegal.
Murder is illegal. Homicide is just a description of how a person met their end (by the hands of another). The actual commission of murder is the culmination of circumstances (intent, pre-meditated, not pre-meditated, etc.) that are determined by investigation.
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I thought about changing that and didn't because you will be investigated for homicide 100% of the time no matter whether it's deemed justifiable or not
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Let's not be naive. Yes if everyone in the United States was educated and upper-middle-class we would probably have less gun violence. Now if anyone has a way to accomplish that I'm all ears.
It would also work if everyone, or at least almost everyone barring some kind of emergency situation, was born to a mature mother and father.
It would also work if everyone followed the teachings of Jesus Christ.
But that's all kind of pie in the sky isn't it?
Also, not to change the subject, but what are the gun violence rates in places like Wyoming or Utah or Montana?
I guess I could look it up but I'm seriously asking.
WSS
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I thought about changing that and didn't because you will be investigated for homicide 100% of the time no matter whether it's deemed justifiable or not
I thought about changing that and didn't because you will be investigated for homicide 100% of the time no matter whether it's deemed justifiable or not
Correct sir.
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You can use gun deaths per capita to show that tighter gun control laws lead to less deaths.
Or you can use total gun deaths to show that gun control laws don't correlate closely with it.
Did the image you linked control for population density?
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Let's not be naive. Yes if everyone in the United States was educated and upper-middle-class we would probably have less gun violence. Now if anyone has a way to accomplish that I'm all ears.
It would also work if everyone, or at least almost everyone barring some kind of emergency situation, was born to a mature mother and father.
It would also work if everyone followed the teachings of Jesus Christ.
But that's all kind of pie in the sky isn't it?
Also, not to change the subject, but what are the gun violence rates in places like Wyoming or Utah or Montana?
I guess I could look it up but I'm seriously asking.
WSS
Let's not be naive. Yes if everyone in the United States was educated and upper-middle-class we would probably have less gun violence. Now if anyone has a way to accomplish that I'm all ears.
It would also work if everyone, or at least almost everyone barring some kind of emergency situation, was born to a mature mother and father.
It would also work if everyone followed the teachings of Jesus Christ.
But that's all kind of pie in the sky isn't it?
Also, not to change the subject, but what are the gun violence rates in places like Wyoming or Utah or Montana?
I guess I could look it up but I'm seriously asking.
WSS
It's not pie in the sky. The chart I posted above shows that gun control laws work in America.
Here is the firearms fatality rates for the 3 states you mentioned.
Wyoming: 19.6 fatality rate.
Utah: 12.8 fatality rate.
Montana:19.2 fatality rate,
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You can use gun deaths per capita to show that tighter gun control laws lead to less deaths.
Or you can use total gun deaths to show that gun control laws don't correlate closely with it.
Did the image you linked control for population density?
You can use gun deaths per capita to show that tighter gun control laws lead to less deaths.
Or you can use total gun deaths to show that gun control laws don't correlate closely with it.
Did the image you linked control for population density?
The chart itself I made. The statistics are from CDC though. According to the site:
"States are categorized from highest rate to lowest rate. Although adjusted for differences in age-distribution and population size, rankings by state do not take into account other state specific population characteristics that may affect the level of mortality. When the number of deaths is small, rankings by state may be unreliable due to instability in death rates."
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
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Blah blah this, blah blah that.........
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liberal bs, more liberal bs, I don't have guns, so nobody should, and these are
my excuses....
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_the_United_States_by_state
That's interesting if I can find more recent statistics I would like to throw those in a chart too. In any case, suicides and accidental deaths make up a larger portion of firearms fatalities than gun murder. Personally I would be interested in reducing all three.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_the_United_States_by_state
That's interesting if I can find more recent statistics I would like to throw those in a chart too. In any case, suicides and accidental deaths make up a larger portion of firearms fatalities than gun murder. Personally I would be interested in reducing all three.
That's interesting if I can find more recent statistics I would like to throw those in a chart too. In any case, suicides and accidental deaths make up a larger portion of firearms fatalities than gun murder. Personally I would be interested in reducing all three.
I have a gun and if I decided to take my own life that would be among the last methods I would choose just for the record.
WSS
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Let's not be naive. Yes if everyone in the United States was educated and upper-middle-class we would probably have less gun violence. Now if anyone has a way to accomplish that I'm all ears.
It would also work if everyone, or at least almost everyone barring some kind of emergency situation, was born to a mature mother and father.
It would also work if everyone followed the teachings of Jesus Christ.
But that's all kind of pie in the sky isn't it?
Also, not to change the subject, but what are the gun violence rates in places like Wyoming or Utah or Montana?
I guess I could look it up but I'm seriously asking.
WSS
It's not pie in the sky. The chart I posted above shows that gun control laws work in America.
Here is the firearms fatality rates for the 3 states you mentioned.
Wyoming: 19.6 fatality rate.
Utah: 12.8 fatality rate.
Montana:19.2 fatality rate,
It's not pie in the sky. The chart I posted above shows that gun control laws work in America.
Here is the firearms fatality rates for the 3 states you mentioned.
Wyoming: 19.6 fatality rate.
Utah: 12.8 fatality rate.
Montana:19.2 fatality rate,
Damn those Mormons are really fucking brutal
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Taking away the gun definitely doesn't stop the suicide.
You can look at the data by state but look at the data by cities combined with socioeconomic data and you get a much different picture.
You can say Illinois only has 9 gun deaths per 100,000 all you want. Doesn't change the fact that Chicago has 90+ per 100,000. The red part of that state is dragged down by Chicago's bullshit. And I'd guess, without research, that legal gun ownership per capita in Illinois is much higher outside of Chicago than inside of Chicago.
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New York state looks really good when you're comparing the gun rates by state too.
But if you look at New York city it isn't such a pretty picture. The bluest part of the state by far is New York city.
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Taking away the gun definitely doesn't stop the suicide.
You can look at the data by state but look at the data by cities combined with socioeconomic data and you get a much different picture.
You can say Illinois only has 9 gun deaths per 100,000 all you want. Doesn't change the fact that Chicago has 90+ per 100,000. The red part of that state is dragged down by Chicago's bullshit. And I'd guess, without research, that legal gun ownership per capita in Illinois is much higher outside of Chicago than inside of Chicago.
Taking away the gun definitely doesn't stop the suicide.
You can look at the data by state but look at the data by cities combined with socioeconomic data and you get a much different picture.
You can say Illinois only has 9 gun deaths per 100,000 all you want. Doesn't change the fact that Chicago has 90+ per 100,000. The red part of that state is dragged down by Chicago's bullshit. And I'd guess, without research, that legal gun ownership per capita in Illinois is much higher outside of Chicago than inside of Chicago.
Harvard study says otherwise regarding suicides. The other stuff you mentioned is worth looking into.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/magazine/guns-and-suicide/
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As far as suicide goes I'm not in love with it but if someone wants to take themselves out that's their choice. It's just like a really late term abortion. of themselves.
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UPDATE NEWS FLASH!!
On Sept 11th 2001 the United States was attacked as the Twin Towers fell due to terrorism.
REMEMBER WHO DONE THIS AND WHO WE ARE, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT LEAVE.
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