Tour's 2016, "Dammit I'm trying to watch this guy, not you", Distraction List
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Not really fitting your def of "distractions I saw while watching others".......but here are a few guys I see going mid/late mid rounds who I think are gonna be hits and, while having fair rankings, are players no one seems to be talking about much......if we can tap these guys 3rd/4th etc, then I see sleeper potential....
#1 is(was) Curtis Samuel, who is racing up the charts.....I was regularly tapping him in the late 3rd or 4th on my mocks....now he's gone late 1st or early 2nd ....everytime.....too bad, as he was one I was hoping to grab and see blossom into a versatile star...ala Eric Metcalf or Desmond Howard typa player...
#2 is Marcus Maye....one of my favorites in this draft.....he would be a great grab for us, unless we opt to go high on Hooker or Adams(which I would be down with 100%)....but I think Maye could give us a top top safety for a great price.....
#3 is Adoree Jackson.....now being mocked in the 3rd/4th rounds?.....reallY?.....This guy can do it all.....CB...WR....KR....FS...And the weird thing is that his versatility is why he's not rated higher....the ole jack of all trades, but master of none?......w/o consideration to the ole "too good to not be on the field" argument....grab him!!!
#4 is James Conner......RB.....BIG and fast.....possibly could be our next Kevin Mackish type of runner?.........I think 4th 5th round would be a great value pick for this guy.....
#4 is James Conner......RB.....BIG and fast.....possibly could be our next Kevin Mackish type of runner?.........I think 4th 5th round would be a great value pick for this guy.....
Combine will be huge for Conner. DS estimates his 40 time as 4.67... That's really pushing his acceptability NFL speed-wise.
That said... I like his tape. The kid is a very smart, tough runner. If nothing else, at 240 he might find a home at FB in the NFL... a FB with skills that would warrant more than one, token carry per game.
Stepping back for a second to reread it... maybe the above is K.Mack-ish.
More midgets tour?
Well... whoever distracts distracts...
Not sure how 5'11 qualifies as "midget". Taywan reminded me of KC sensation, Tyreek 5'8 Hill. I don't see anything on our roster like him.
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While watching the national championship game for potential top pick guys, the dude who stood out the most in this vein to me was Ben Boulware, LB from Clemson.
You can easily tell the physical limitations but the guy was doing a damn good job diagnosing the Alabama plays and shifting guys around. He's got a pretty marked weakness in pass coverage but I think is well worth a shot with a late 5th or 6th round pick. The mental awareness and passion is there which to me is critical at that position.
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When I was scouting up on Myles Garrett I kept noticing the other side and was like, "who's this dude?"
Daeshon Hall is a monster.
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Never thought that personally.
Nor I. With all the extra blockers going at Garrett as well as plays away from him, Hall should have had a far better year if he were as good.
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Battling the flu the past few days, so I'm held up in bed right now. I've got mah tablet here.
Who should I watch first?
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Battling the flu the past few days, so I'm held up in bed right now. I've got mah tablet here.
Who should I watch first?
Battling the flu the past few days, so I'm held up in bed right now. I've got mah tablet here.
Who should I watch first?
feel better. I feel we need a CB. It's deep, but 2nd or 3rd rounder maybe needed now that Tramon Williams is out.This Past Wednesday i got torn viewing between OSU-Gareon Conley vs Clemson-Cordrea Tankersley & USC-Adoee Jackson..Williams seems 60% Nickle, but actually saw some press coverage also in Rams corners..Who you like? (ignoring a Buckeye helmet
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Battling the flu the past few days, so I'm held up in bed right now. I've got mah tablet here.
Who should I watch first?
feel better. I feel we need a CB. It's deep, but 2nd or 3rd rounder maybe needed now that Tramon Williams is out.This Past Wednesday i got torn viewing between OSU-Gareon Conley vs Clemson-Cordrea Tankersley & USC-Adoee Jackson..Williams seems 60% Nickle, but actually saw some press coverage also in Rams corners..Who you like? (ignoring a Buckeye helmet
)? feel better. I feel we need a CB. It's deep, but 2nd or 3rd rounder maybe needed now that Tramon Williams is out.This Past Wednesday i got torn viewing between OSU-Gareon Conley vs Clemson-Cordrea Tankersley & USC-Adoee Jackson..Williams seems 60% Nickle, but actually saw some press coverage also in Rams corners..Who you like? (ignoring a Buckeye helmet
)? I know I've heard a ton of hype on Adoree because of his athletic ability. Said ability doesn't often translate into being a good corner. You must have discipline, footwork, fluid change of direction and a great feel or the subtle tips in a receivers route.
I guess that means I'll be watching some Jackson for the next hour or two.
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feel better. I feel we need a CB. It's deep, but 2nd or 3rd rounder maybe needed now that Tramon Williams is out.This Past Wednesday i got torn viewing between OSU-Gareon Conley vs Clemson-Cordrea Tankersley & USC-Adoee Jackson..Williams seems 60% Nickle, but actually saw some press coverage also in Rams corners..Who you like? (ignoring a Buckeye helmet
)? I know I've heard a ton of hype on Adoree because of his athletic ability. Said ability doesn't often translate into being a good corner. You must have discipline, footwork, fluid change of direction and a great feel or the subtle tips in a receivers route.
I guess that means I'll be watching some Jackson for the next hour or two.
I know I've heard a ton of hype on Adoree because of his athletic ability. Said ability doesn't often translate into being a good corner.
Bingo..And the great bowl game with Penn State I began to question the so-called experts on Adoree. No doubt the kid has great return skills but lets not just draft return skills..
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I know I've heard a ton of hype on Adoree because of his athletic ability. Said ability doesn't often translate into being a good corner.
Bingo..And the great bowl game with Penn State I began to question the so-called experts on Adoree. No doubt the kid has great return skills but lets not just draft return skills..
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Watching USC vs Notre Dame - Josh Adams has held true to this thread title.
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Been watching tape from 2015 and 2016 on Adoree'. Theme - a physically talented kid, great athlete with fluid movement in feet and hips, light feet, long arms and great potential.
Though I see some work on technique from his second to third year, he is still incredibly raw for the position. Making his bones simply by being a better athlete with great makeup speed.
His discipline in opening up his hips is poor, he lunges with an open stance quite a bit to get jams... not sure who the hell taught him that - and runs high on his receiver more often than not.
But as I said, great makeup speed. When he's in his back-peddle, plants and drives he's able to close quickly to breakup passes and appears to be slightly above average at tackling. He's no Haden in his prime, sure not
Winfield, but he isn't a sissy about it either. Still some room on his frame for a few more quality pounds.
His light feet and hip work are like watching Lattimore. Only he doesn't have the discipline on the underneath stuff and rounds out to path to the receiver when trailing or going for the ball. Though, again, he makes up for that with awesome closing speed. If you go Jackson, be prepared to watch a lot of growing pains and a young man that is going to need to hit the ground running with his position coach. You won't see a lot of fruit from the labor until midway through year 2 at best.
As a return man he's above average, but he has a tenancy to carry the ball sloppy. A couple of times he could have had it poked out but secured it quickly before contact. A few by design, a few by shear luck.
In all honesty I'd compare him to a little smaller Marcus Peter's. He has all the physical traits in the world and the great flip from his hips, but discipline, footwork and film will be where he needs the biggest improvement.
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Awesome breakdown right there Tia,thanks. Seems a lot(or just us) of drafted CB's have that Buster Skrine "pick on me" season.(Gilbert too) than the athletic ability needs to catch up with the proper technique & film studies to see it for themselves. But, putting a Gregg Williams in their ear may help..Thanks again & get better. Your in fine Combine grading form as usual..
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Been watching tape from 2015 and 2016 on Adoree'. Theme - a physically talented kid, great athlete with fluid movement in feet and hips, light feet, long arms and great potential.
Though I see some work on technique from his second to third year, he is still incredibly raw for the position. Making his bones simply by being a better athlete with great makeup speed.
His discipline in opening up his hips is poor, he lunges with an open stance quite a bit to get jams... not sure who the hell taught him that - and runs high on his receiver more often than not.
But as I said, great makeup speed. When he's in his back-peddle, plants and drives he's able to close quickly to breakup passes and appears to be slightly above average at tackling. He's no Haden in his prime, sure not
Winfield, but he isn't a sissy about it either. Still some room on his frame for a few more quality pounds.
His light feet and hip work are like watching Lattimore. Only he doesn't have the discipline on the underneath stuff and rounds out to path to the receiver when trailing or going for the ball. Though, again, he makes up for that with awesome closing speed. If you go Jackson, be prepared to watch a lot of growing pains and a young man that is going to need to hit the ground running with his position coach. You won't see a lot of fruit from the labor until midway through year 2 at best.
As a return man he's above average, but he has a tenancy to carry the ball sloppy. A couple of times he could have had it poked out but secured it quickly before contact. A few by design, a few by shear luck.
In all honesty I'd compare him to a little smaller Marcus Peter's. He has all the physical traits in the world and the great flip from his hips, but discipline, footwork and film will be where he needs the biggest improvement.
Been watching tape from 2015 and 2016 on Adoree'. Theme - a physically talented kid, great athlete with fluid movement in feet and hips, light feet, long arms and great potential.
Though I see some work on technique from his second to third year, he is still incredibly raw for the position. Making his bones simply by being a better athlete with great makeup speed.
His discipline in opening up his hips is poor, he lunges with an open stance quite a bit to get jams... not sure who the hell taught him that - and runs high on his receiver more often than not.
But as I said, great makeup speed. When he's in his back-peddle, plants and drives he's able to close quickly to breakup passes and appears to be slightly above average at tackling. He's no Haden in his prime, sure not
Winfield, but he isn't a sissy about it either. Still some room on his frame for a few more quality pounds.
His light feet and hip work are like watching Lattimore. Only he doesn't have the discipline on the underneath stuff and rounds out to path to the receiver when trailing or going for the ball. Though, again, he makes up for that with awesome closing speed. If you go Jackson, be prepared to watch a lot of growing pains and a young man that is going to need to hit the ground running with his position coach. You won't see a lot of fruit from the labor until midway through year 2 at best.
As a return man he's above average, but he has a tenancy to carry the ball sloppy. A couple of times he could have had it poked out but secured it quickly before contact. A few by design, a few by shear luck.
In all honesty I'd compare him to a little smaller Marcus Peter's. He has all the physical traits in the world and the great flip from his hips, but discipline, footwork and film will be where he needs the biggest improvement.
Thanks for the time you put into that.It wasa great analysis.
If he's slated for round 1, I'm weary of his 185 lb frame holding up. It reminds me a lot of Phillip Buchanon who was the same 5-11 height weighing in at about 185 lbs prior to being selected 18th/19th overall out of the Miami Hurricanes. Despite a long career, he never lived up to his first round expectation. He was a liability against the run, remained easy to block and just incompatible with the NFL physics. The only time I watched USC was in the Rose Bowl and Adoree Jackson got injured late in the 2nd half.
I once thought the talent of K'Wuan Williams was a grand theft because he was undrafted. Having said that, the 183 lb corner seemed to constantly get dinged up and leave games early due to injury. He had great cover skills and I loved his willingness to tackle but durability separates the does from the bucks.
I know my 2 cents is only worth 1 cent in this conversation; but I'd rather prioritize Safety at #12 or 33 than any corners under 6' weighing in the 180s. The last time we drafted a Safety in the first round it was Eric Turner who was so freakin good he shutout the best TE in football and go-to guy in NE (Ben Coates) in the last playoff game this franchise won. Just when I thought I'd never see another Safety lay the lumber like Don Rogers - here comes Erock putting an end to that worry. I get the impression Gregg Williams isn't any different than BB in thinking he like to prioritize the middle of the Secondary first especially after Tour shared that article from the OBR. Not only that, but Sean Taylor played some lights out football when he had Gregg Williams as his DC. I think he also changed Malcolm Jenkins from a Cornerback to an NFL Safety where he made 2nd Team All Pro in 2010.
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Pretty sure Malcolm made the pro bowl last year as well.
At this moment I'm not sure where I'd take Adoree'. Gut says it isn't the first round though.
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Adoree Jackson with pick 65 I'm very happy about.
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Pretty sure Malcolm made the pro bowl last year as well.
At this moment I'm not sure where I'd take Adoree'. Gut says it isn't the first round though.
Pretty sure Malcolm made the pro bowl last year as well.
At this moment I'm not sure where I'd take Adoree'. Gut says it isn't the first round though.
Good catch Tia! In addition to his 2nd Team All Pro honor as a Strong Safety in 2010 under Williams - he made the Pro Bowl for Philly in 2015.
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Sorry if this has been posted, just heard about this kid. Looking at his highlights he appears very fast and fluid for a tight end. Don't know where I would draft him though.
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