Jonathan Paul Manziel

gumby73

@texasag1969 said:
Ian Rappaport on NFL Total Access tonight reports there will be several teams interested in him as a backup.

Ag & Ag only. It's 2015. week 1 McC goes copter spin. week 2 JM beats Tits 28-14. week 3 Oakland comes to town & Pet with Shanny decides to go back to JMc in loss. was this the point JM was lost too? seemed like he really went down the drain from here, almost against the whole org than lead to abuse than to Billy?

TexasAg1969

@gumby73 said:
Ag & Ag only. It's 2015. week 1 McC goes copter spin. week 2 JM beats Tits 28-14. week 3 Oakland comes to town & Pet with Shanny decides to go back to JMc in loss. was this the point JM was lost too? seemed like he really went down the drain from here, almost against the whole org than lead to abuse than to Billy?

I will make no excuses for someone who sought solace in a bottle regardless of the decisions made by the Browns. At this point in time he just needs to take care of his own house and do his best to take advantage of any second chance he may get from another team.

The Gipper

@texasag1969 said:
Ian Rappaport on NFL Total Access tonight reports there will be several teams interested in him as a backup.

What? In one of the Developmental Leagues?

http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/02/09/developmental-football-leagues-pacific-pro

TexasAg1969

@the-gipper said:

What? In one of the Developmental Leagues?

http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/02/09/developmental-football-leagues-pacific-pro

He was talking about the real NFL league.

hoorta

@texasag1969 said:

He was talking about the real NFL league.

So who's the bigger risk, Manziel or Gordon?

TexasAg1969

@hoorta said:
So who's the bigger risk, Manziel or Gordon?

I think they are both equally high risk at this point, but expectations for Gordon out of the gate would be much higher as a starter rather than Manziel as a backup.

The Gipper

@hoorta said:
So who's the bigger risk, Manziel or Gordon?

The one with the less talent. Guess who. There IS a reason they have not yet released Gordon. And there was a reason they did release JMZ

Mark O

@the-gipper said:
The one with the less talent. Guess who. There IS a reason they have not yet released Gordon. And there was a reason they did release JMZ

I think there is a lot of truth to that. Not to mention. For as much of a dipshit Gordon is, he's not a distraction to the team or an embarassment to the organization like TMZ Johnny fuckhead.

Tour2ma

@texasag1969 said:
Ian Rappaport on NFL Total Access tonight reports there will be several teams interested in him as a backup.

Because that has worked out so well twice now...

@texasag1969 said:
I think they are both equally high risk at this point, but expectations for Gordon out of the gate would be much higher as a starter rather than Manziel as a backup.

OMFG... You, sir, need another rehab stint...

choco

@the-gipper said:
The one with the less talent. Guess who. There IS a reason they have not yet released Gordon. And there was a reason they did release JMZ

And that reason is nothing more than it costs them nothing more than dealing with his updates in life and media questions.

TexasAg1969

@tour2ma said:

Because that has worked out so well twice now...

OMFG... You, sir, need another rehab stint...

Tim Couch Pulls Out

Johnny on the field wasn't terrible overall. Some learning curves, but we've seen much worse.

Johnny off the field was a complete and utter disaster.

If the latter can be fixed, the former can carve out a niche somewhere doing something...even if it is holding the clipboard.

Canton Dawg

He would be better off going to the CFL.

The Gipper

@choco said:
And that reason is nothing more than it costs them nothing more than dealing with his updates in life and media questions.

Right. It costs them nothing but what you say. And it wouldn't even cost them that if they let him go. So...there is a reason they don't let him go.....because they may still want him.

nickers

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Johnny on the field wasn't terrible overall. Some learning curves, but we've seen much worse.

Johnny off the field was a complete and utter disaster.

If the latter can be fixed, the former can carve out a niche somewhere doing something...even if it is holding the clipboard.

Johnny lacks the mental makeup to be an "NFL" player let alone , be an NFL QB.

tiamat63

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Johnny on the field wasn't terrible overall. Some learning curves, but we've seen much worse.

Then we were watching two very different games.

Mark O

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Johnny on the field wasn't terrible overall. Some learning curves, but we've seen much worse.

Johnny off the field was a complete and utter disaster.

If the latter can be fixed, the former can carve out a niche somewhere doing something...even if it is holding the clipboard.

We have seen much worse.....which is pretty sad.

bbedward

Hasn't he lost a bunch of weight and gained a bunch of new tats?

No way any NFL team will give him a chance, he'd have to start in Canada first.

2 years ago I said he would be Johnny Canada and someone (bleacher report blog guy?) said I was an idiot and I had no idea what I was talking about.

Mark O

@bbedward said:

Hasn't he lost a bunch of weight and gained a bunch of new tats?

No way any NFL team will give him a chance, he'd have to start in Canada first.

2 years ago I said he would be Johnny Canada and someone (bleacher report blog guy?) said I was an idiot and I had no idea what I was talking about.

With as bad as the QB play is in the league, I wouldn't be surprised to see some team give him a shot in camp.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@tiamat63 said:
Then we were watching two very different games.

Or you're just incapable of being objective.

If you think Manziel was the worst QB we've had on the field over the last 15 years...you're extremely mistaken. I wouldn't even put him top ten worst.