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  • Garrett looked really unprepared/uncoordinated for those movement drills. I Really did not expect him to get the One Trick Pony label but I'll be damned. Clumsy Play.

    I liked Harris aswell Check out Cox jr. looked very smooth in space for his size

  • And OJ Howard ran as fast as Leonard Fournette especially considering he outweighed him by 10 pounds or so.

  • i gotta believe we are going to take atleast one TE this draft

  • Watching the LB/DL drills, and Charles Harris from U of Missouri looked really good. I don't know, nor do I care what the stop watch or tape measure said in other 'tests', but he sure passed the eye test in the drills...... Looked better than Garrett in many.

    yea, I said it

    @d-bone said:

    Watching the LB/DL drills, and Charles Harris from U of Missouri looked really good. I don't know, nor do I care what the stop watch or tape measure said in other 'tests', but he sure passed the eye test in the drills...... Looked better than Garrett in many.

    yea, I said it

    Good catch, been watching him for 20 minutes so far.

  • i wonder if the ball speeds are tracked anywhere

    @cainedesoulis said:

    i wonder if the ball speeds are tracked anywhere

    Yes... they are measured at the Combine, but not "officially" by the NFL. Ourlads has done the honors in the past, but oddly NFL.com has cited their results.

    http://blogs.ourlads.com/2016/03/02/quarterback-ball-velocity-at-nfl-combine-2008-2015/

    @texasag1969 said:

    And 4.51 not bad for a guy 10-15 lbs over playing weight.

    No, it's not, but the question is why was he 10-15 pounds overweight at the fucking Combine??? And it wasn't "water-weight".

    Teams are going to want to know if Fournette is the next Eddie Lacy.

    @wargograw said:

    The question is has he ever been "cool" on the field?

    That's a different question...

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Garett is going to need to taught everything except rush it looks like.... i wonder if he can do ST?

    His footwork is so unnatural dropping back lol. Byran Cox looked very smooth. I can tell right now Henrickson* is an effort>athlete

    How often are you dropping him?

    As for ST... I have to dismiss that as pure trolling.

  • It was actually a reference to mingo being the next best pass rusher and then ending up playing mostly ST because he failed as a pass rusher.

    It's a negative not a huge one but a blemish nonetheless. Not being able to fall back isnt a big deal but it is something he will need to add to his toolbox

  • It was actually a reference to mingo being the next best pass rusher and then ending up playing mostly ST because he failed as a pass rusher.

    It's a negative not a huge one but a blemish nonetheless. Not being able to fall back isnt a big deal but it is something he will need to add to his toolbox

    @cainedesoulis said:

    It was actually a reference to mingo being the next best pass rusher and then ending up playing mostly ST because he failed as a pass rusher.

    It's a negative not a huge one but a blemish nonetheless. Not being able to fall back isnt a big deal but it is something he will need to add to his toolbox

    Yep, I remember reading and hearing how great Mingo was on the edge. How explosive he was, and how he could dip his body and get to a lean angle like no other...... Yep, I remember that well.

  • Wow Tour you were right on Garrett jumping out of the combine building. 41 in. vert. and 10'8" broad jump.

    Solomon Thomas has improved his draft stock too. Gonna be a really good one. And I think KSU's Jordan Willis may have put himslef high in the 2nd.

  • @cainedesoulis said:

    i wonder if the ball speeds are tracked anywhere

    Yes... they are measured at the Combine, but not "officially" by the NFL. Ourlads has done the honors in the past, but oddly NFL.com has cited their results.

    http://blogs.ourlads.com/2016/03/02/quarterback-ball-velocity-at-nfl-combine-2008-2015/

    @texasag1969 said:

    And 4.51 not bad for a guy 10-15 lbs over playing weight.

    No, it's not, but the question is why was he 10-15 pounds overweight at the fucking Combine??? And it wasn't "water-weight".

    Teams are going to want to know if Fournette is the next Eddie Lacy.

    @wargograw said:

    The question is has he ever been "cool" on the field?

    That's a different question...

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Garett is going to need to taught everything except rush it looks like.... i wonder if he can do ST?

    His footwork is so unnatural dropping back lol. Byran Cox looked very smooth. I can tell right now Henrickson* is an effort>athlete

    How often are you dropping him?

    As for ST... I have to dismiss that as pure trolling.

    @tour2ma said:

    That's a different question...

    Can't lose something you don't have.

  • Garrett is doing pretty good at the combine he jumped higher than* Seth Devalve 😁

  • @mld-woody said:

    Fournette had a bad combine. Not just unimpressive.

    Peppers had 19 reps. Pretty good.

    Fournette had a fine combine. It seems people have just mentally blocked out the definition of a good 40 for a power RB all of a sudden.

    @wargograw said:

    Fournette had a fine combine. It seems people have just mentally blocked out the definition of a good 40 for a power RB all of a sudden.

    See below.

    @wargograw said:

    And his size combined with his 40 was borderline elite. So that averages out to "bad"?

    As Tour said why the extra weight? But in regards to the 40, if you watched them ghost Julio Jones against Ross' record 40 4.22 run, I'd guesstimate Fournett's 40 time against Adrian Peterson would be about three feet. Big deal.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Fuck Foster. Sounds like an obnoxious asshole.

    Of course the southern brother with a temper offends the Michigan fans pinky out sensibilities. You're gay.

    @wargograw said:

    Of course the southern brother with a temper offends the Michigan fans pinky out sensibilities. You're gay.

    Haha, my bad. I forgot Aggies need to ride Bamas coattails still. "You're gay"... Genius.

    The guy pulled a "do you know who I am" and then threatened to fight a hospital worker. Sounds like an asshole.

  • Wow Tour you were right on Garrett jumping out of the combine building. 41 in. vert. and 10'8" broad jump.

    Solomon Thomas has improved his draft stock too. Gonna be a really good one. And I think KSU's Jordan Willis may have put himslef high in the 2nd.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Wow Tour you were right on Garrett jumping out of the combine building. 41 in. vert. and 10'8" broad jump.

    I finally got one right! And a 1.73(?) 10-yd split to boot.

    I still can't believe he ran a 4.64... the man has no sprinter form at all.

    Hips flying... legs flailing... the man runs with a wide base. Know what that is good for? Speed to power and #1 overall...

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Wow Tour you were right on Garrett jumping out of the combine building. 41 in. vert. and 10'8" broad jump.

    I finally got one right! And a 1.73(?) 10-yd split to boot.

    I still can't believe he ran a 4.64... the man has no sprinter form at all.

    Hips flying... legs flailing... the man runs with a wide base. Know what that is good for? Speed to power and #1 overall...

    @tour2ma said:

    I finally got one right! And a 1.73(?) 10-yd split to boot.

    I still can't believe he ran a 4.64... the man has no sprinter form at all.

    Hips flying... legs flailing... the man runs with a wide base. Know what that is good for? Speed to power and #1 overall...

    Funny you should say that. Just heard him say on NFL Total access, "Couple of my friends call me The Flash.............I'm fast but I can also turn that speed into power."

    The other one that really impressed me was Solomon Thomas. I'd put him right up there with Garrett and Allen as all Top 3 guys in any order you'd want to put them.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Wow Tour you were right on Garrett jumping out of the combine building. 41 in. vert. and 10'8" broad jump.

    I finally got one right! And a 1.73(?) 10-yd split to boot.

    I still can't believe he ran a 4.64... the man has no sprinter form at all.

    Hips flying... legs flailing... the man runs with a wide base. Know what that is good for? Speed to power and #1 overall...

    @tour2ma said:

    the man has no sprinter form at all.

    Hips flying... legs flailing... the man runs with a wide base. Know what that is good for? Speed to power and #1 overall...

    Hell yes you take Myles for the player & athletic combine numbers..BUT thank god the guy with the ball maybe 10 yards away 😁.Them strides,with any balance in those drills is NO signs of a Von Miller. Unorthodox running lower body injury is now a concern. not just a hockey term anymore..My Buckeye Man cave hated J. Peppers yesterday. But I got over the Blue yesterday. The post interview showed a kid having fun with his confidence that this team needs. But what position can Peppers really play at next level? Seems to be small at LB but I thought the same after seeing Zach Cunningham.Looks safty'ish to me? Or was Peppers a guy & his agent announcing he's a S/FS as a money move to get him top 15?

  • @tour2ma said:

    the man has no sprinter form at all.

    Hips flying... legs flailing... the man runs with a wide base. Know what that is good for? Speed to power and #1 overall...

    Hell yes you take Myles for the player & athletic combine numbers..BUT thank god the guy with the ball maybe 10 yards away 😁.Them strides,with any balance in those drills is NO signs of a Von Miller. Unorthodox running lower body injury is now a concern. not just a hockey term anymore..My Buckeye Man cave hated J. Peppers yesterday. But I got over the Blue yesterday. The post interview showed a kid having fun with his confidence that this team needs. But what position can Peppers really play at next level? Seems to be small at LB but I thought the same after seeing Zach Cunningham.Looks safty'ish to me? Or was Peppers a guy & his agent announcing he's a S/FS as a money move to get him top 15?

    @gumby73 said:

    Hell yes you take Myles for the player & athletic combine numbers..BUT thank god the guy with the ball maybe 10 yards away 😁.Them strides,with any balance in those drills is NO signs of a Von Miller. Unorthodox running lower body injury is now a concern. not just a hockey term anymore..My Buckeye Man cave hated J. Peppers yesterday. But I got over the Blue yesterday. The post interview showed a kid having fun with his confidence that this team needs. But what position can Peppers really play at next level? Seems to be small at LB but I thought the same after seeing Zach Cunningham.Looks safty'ish to me? Or was Peppers a guy & his agent announcing he's a S/FS as a money move to get him top 15?

    Jalepeno Peppers seems like a fun kid that LOVES football enough to make it infectious with teammates via his team leadership role. He looks like a damn good tackler with healthy shoulders, which can matter over the long haul in space that some people aren't thinking about regarding Hooker. Back in October I was a huge Hooker fan but heading into the NFL with a torn labrum requiring surgical repair gives me the heebeegeebees about him all of a sudden. This kid looks like he can be ideal for the blitz (as depicted on film), special teams and the creative mind of Gregg Williams. He's at least worthy of keeping an open mind about.

    It's a shame I need to type a 1st round prospect LOVES football but our last FO drafted the hollow inner chests of Gilbert and Manziel over Khalil Mack and Derek Carr. And here we remain needing those 2 most important roles on a football team...

  • I havent found the 2016 numbers yet but considering his above average missed tackle percentage last year alone, I think the phrase 'box safety' for Peppers should be concerning as well.

    P.S. - Tebow loved football too.

  • I havent found the 2016 numbers yet but considering his above average missed tackle percentage last year alone, I think the phrase 'box safety' for Peppers should be concerning as well.

    P.S. - Tebow loved football too.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I have not found the 2016 numbers yet but considering his above average missed tackle percentage last year alone, I think the phrase 'box safety' for Peppers should be concerning as well.

    Can't disagree here Tia, cause I have seen some of that also. And the players only get bigger & faster at the next level. But loving the game & having confidence in yourself not sucking at any of those positions are still on tape to be determined>>But we can use all his so called positions of available including ST..When Adams & Hooker are off the board,Peppers has got to be considered

  • I havent found the 2016 numbers yet but considering his above average missed tackle percentage last year alone, I think the phrase 'box safety' for Peppers should be concerning as well.

    P.S. - Tebow loved football too.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I havent found the 2016 numbers yet but considering his above average missed tackle percentage last year alone, I think the phrase 'box safety' for Peppers should be concerning as well.

    P.S. - Tebow loved football as well.

    So did Otto Graham who took Cleveland to 10 consecutive Pro Football Championships in his first 10 years. But staying in the context of the conversation, Gilbert and Manziel did not love football when we drafted them instead of Khalil Mack and Derek Carr who prioritized it.

    Peppers has to have some good qualities to be getting the attention and praise I've seen about him. A lot of people that watch Michigan every week swear he's something special they haven't seen in quite a while. You do a nice job in here with your analyses of some of the prospects but it's also possible the OSU-Michigan rivalry has you going out of your way a little bit extra with some bias against him. I could be wrong on that though since others don't buy into him either.

    FWIW - here's what Lindy's Sports Pro Football Draft 2017 has to say about Peppers on page 80: "Pound for pound, Peppers might just be the best open-field tackler in the country - which is why Jim Harbaugh and the Wolverines opted to play him so close to the line of scrimmage."

  • @the-gipper said:

    No. Merely axiomatic.

    "from Greek axiōma ("something worthy") and "axios" ("worthy")."

    Why thank you Gip!

    @texasag1969 said:

    "from Greek axiōma ("something worthy") and "axios" ("worthy")."

    Why thank you Gip!

    Taken for granted. Self Evident.