Trubisky's Experience May Not Prevent Him From Being The 1st QB Selected - Thanks to the Spread?
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Seems like alot of people are missing the fact that while Trubisky only had 13 starts, he did play in 31 games at UNC. In time he will become one of the top NFL QB's. We did not tank the season to draft a D lineman. Garrett would be a nice addition but not necessary to have a successful DL with the addition of Williams at DC and the return of Bryant on the Line.
Seems like alot of people are missing the fact that while Trubisky only had 13 starts, he did play in 31 games at UNC.
Yeah... that second game he posted as a Frosh vs. SD State in 2014 when he went 1-2 for 8 yds, 0 TDs & 1 INT is meaningful as hell...
Might be 2nd only to his Soph appearance vs. VaTech... 0-0 for 0, 0 & 0, but one rush for 2 yds.
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Seems like alot of people are missing the fact that while Trubisky only had 13 starts, he did play in 31 games at UNC.
Yeah... that second game he posted as a Frosh vs. SD State in 2014 when he went 1-2 for 8 yds, 0 TDs & 1 INT is meaningful as hell...
Might be 2nd only to his Soph appearance vs. VaTech... 0-0 for 0, 0 & 0, but one rush for 2 yds.
Yeah... that second game he posted as a Frosh vs. SD State in 2014 when he went 1-2 for 8 yds, 0 TDs & 1 INT is meaningful as hell...
Might be 2nd only to his Soph appearance vs. VaTech... 0-0 for 0, 0 & 0, but one rush for 2 yds.
or the time he came off the bench in the second half and threw 17/20 for 312 and 4 tds against Delaware but that doesn't count because you know that doesn't count. Don't discount the fact that he was 68% for his NCAA career. And lets not forget that I am a homer since I've been watching this kid play since he was 6yrs old. So for me there is only one pick to be made. Ideally I would hope that he could drop to 12 and we get him there. But I don't believe he last that long. My biggest fear is the stoolers move up and take him because we passed on him at 1. Stoolers love ohio born and bred QB's.
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Then say that instead of "31 games"...
I mean when you have a Delaware pelt to flaunt... flaunt it...
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Then say that instead of "31 games"...
I mean when you have a Delaware pelt to flaunt... flaunt it...
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Want to guess who got drafted #2 last year and played powerhouses like South Dakota State and Youngstown State?
Did you just play the 25th-ranked-QB of 2016 card?
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Did you just play the 25th-ranked-QB of 2016 card?
Sure, instead lets just pull the third rated passer out of our ass in the 4th round, like the Cowboys did.
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Not that I put too much stock in throwing against no pass rush and no DBs; but I thought Trubisky and Watson looked good on Saturday. I didn't see this weak arm on Watson I've read about by people that want him to fail.
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Sure, instead lets just pull the third rated passer out of our ass in the 4th round, like the Cowboys did.
They read Tour and me last year. And the boys took him despite the DUI scaring everyone else off until the 4th. Would have gone higher without the Johnny Football fiasco hanging over him.
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Sure, instead lets just pull the third rated passer out of our ass in the 4th round, like the Cowboys did.
Okay, we'll forget that major inconvenience for you and ask what about Seattle taking Russell Wilson after round 1 while we reached on Brandon Weeden in round 1? What about Oakland taking Derek Carr in round 2 instead of us reaching on Manziel in round 1? Pretend history isn't a valuable educational tool? You're trying to Stephen King yourself a football savior here only because he's from Mentor, OH. You're putting on all your Lancelot armor and putting up a China Wall in between fiction and non-fiction here.
What about NOT drafting the Brady Quinn noone else seemed interested in back in 2007 so we have a pick before pick #111 of the 4th round in 2008? Before you correct me with we still go Joe Thomas at #3 overall - your buddy Shep wanted Quinn at #3 overall with his argument if you still don't have a QB you better be drafting one in round one. We did and he wasn't as good as Derek Anderson so he later had to go to Denver and learn he wasn't even as good as Tim Tebow. That's pretty impressive considering how Pro Ready we kept reading he was by all the scouts unwilling to attach their names to the statement. At least we got 1 good year out of Peyton Hillis in the swap for Quinn. Did we trade up for Mike Phipps at #3 overall too? Yeah, I'm not seeing the abracadabra behind the ole we have to draft a QB in round 1 if we don't have a franchise QB yet. The only MVP we've had throwing the football here in the last 50 years is a 13th round pick named Brian Sipe. If it wasn't for the supplemental draft, how far do we have to go back to see when the last time we drafted a keeper at QB in round 1? Practice makes perfect and we've been practicing to not trust drafting a QB in round 1 for decades heading into the weak QB class of 2017.
In 2007, we won 10 games because we added vets like Eric Steinbach (to play next to Joe Thomas his rookie year), Hank Fraley, Joe Jurvicius and the Baltimore pronounced dead legs of Jamal Lewis that gave us 1300 yards and 9 TDs on the ground. We only had RAC as our HC so what made it ll possible? All the stars and planets finally aligned to make Cleveland an easier place to play QB for just that 1 season. Braylon Edwards and Derek Anderson had the best years of their careers. We could run INSIDE of tackle. The addition of Joe Thomas at LT meant Kevin Shafer could play in a much more comfortable niche at RT where he was a very efficient run blocker neighboring Ryan Tucker in his most comfortable niche at RG.
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More specifically, there's less spread offense/bad habits to de-program with Trubisky.
So the only better choice would be a QB with no starts?
Polian discussed one of those bad practices yesterday... going thru a progression to find an open receiver.
Bill was adamant that the transition to the NFL requires a change to reading defenses and that only one spread QB has made that transition... Mariotta.
So the only better choice would be a QB with no starts?
Polian discussed one of those bad practices yesterday... going thru a progression to find an open receiver.
Bill was adamant that the transition to the NFL requires a change to reading defenses and that only one spread QB has made that transition... Mariotta.
Polian hates the spread offense and said that no QB who played the spread is ever ready to play in the NFL...and that none should ever be drafted high.
But, here is the problem: Like 99% of colleges these days run the spread offense....so if you are going to get a non spread offense...or non air raid offense or some such.....you may have to like scour the D-AA of DII ranks to find someone who is running a pro style offense.
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Bill was adamant that the transition to the NFL requires a change to reading defenses and that only one spread QB has made that transition... Mariotta.
And if that's not difficult enough, the complexity of those defenses can be far more confusing for a rookie QB (from a college spread offense) trying to learn a far more complicated offense. Now factor in how QB friendly the offense in Cleveland is today and the X's and O's can turn into Ex's and Uh-O's in a hurry.
I wish we'd try to make this an easier place to play QB for once. IMO, this draft and FA spending money gives us the opportunity to do that.
TN didn't make it an easy place for Mariota to play QB as a rookie in 2015 so they went 2-14 and earned the right to draft 1st overall in 2015. New GM Jon Robinson, who learned the art of trading back for more picks while he was in NE, and did just that for TN in 2016. He also landed FA WR Rishard Matthews that many locals thought was a nobody and he contributed 945 yard and 65 receptions despite only starting 9 games. He also added veteran RB Demarco Murray following a disappointing stay in Philly. Needless to say, Robinson made TN a much easier place for Mariota to play QB in 2016.
And if that's not difficult enough, the complexity of those defenses can be far more confusing for a rookie QB (from a college spread offense) trying to learn a far more complicated offense. Now factor in how QB friendly the offense in Cleveland is today and the X's and O's can turn into Ex's and Uh-O's in a hurry.
I wish we'd try to make this an easier place to play QB for once. IMO, this draft and FA spending money gives us the opportunity to do that.
TN didn't make it an easy place for Mariota to play QB as a rookie in 2015 so they went 2-14 and earned the right to draft 1st overall in 2015. New GM Jon Robinson, who learned the art of trading back for more picks while he was in NE, and did just that for TN in 2016. He also landed FA WR Rishard Matthews that many locals thought was a nobody and he contributed 945 yard and 65 receptions despite only starting 9 games. He also added veteran RB Demarco Murray following a disappointing stay in Philly. Needless to say, Robinson made TN a much easier place for Mariota to play QB in 2016.
If the Browns take a QB....even one at #1.....they DO NOT have to play him right away.
What is the reasoning of people who think that a QB MUST play right away? Simply because of his draft position?
Here is a clue folks: even IF the Browns take Garrett, HE may not start right away. HE has a lot of learning to do, and HE may in fact start behind the likes of Ogbah, Nassib, Meder, Bryant or whoever this team has at DE while HE learns that position.
It is no difference witha QB or a DE.
And that's a fact.
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Then say that instead of "31 games"...
I mean when you have a Delaware pelt to flaunt... flaunt it...
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Sure, instead lets just pull the third rated passer out of our ass in the 4th round, like the Cowboys did.
Okay, we'll forget that major inconvenience for you and ask what about Seattle taking Russell Wilson after round 1 while we reached on Brandon Weeden in round 1? What about Oakland taking Derek Carr in round 2 instead of us reaching on Manziel in round 1? Pretend history isn't a valuable educational tool? You're trying to Stephen King yourself a football savior here only because he's from Mentor, OH. You're putting on all your Lancelot armor and putting up a China Wall in between fiction and non-fiction here.
What about NOT drafting the Brady Quinn noone else seemed interested in back in 2007 so we have a pick before pick #111 of the 4th round in 2008? Before you correct me with we still go Joe Thomas at #3 overall - your buddy Shep wanted Quinn at #3 overall with his argument if you still don't have a QB you better be drafting one in round one. We did and he wasn't as good as Derek Anderson so he later had to go to Denver and learn he wasn't even as good as Tim Tebow. That's pretty impressive considering how Pro Ready we kept reading he was by all the scouts unwilling to attach their names to the statement. At least we got 1 good year out of Peyton Hillis in the swap for Quinn. Did we trade up for Mike Phipps at #3 overall too? Yeah, I'm not seeing the abracadabra behind the ole we have to draft a QB in round 1 if we don't have a franchise QB yet. The only MVP we've had throwing the football here in the last 50 years is a 13th round pick named Brian Sipe. If it wasn't for the supplemental draft, how far do we have to go back to see when the last time we drafted a keeper at QB in round 1? Practice makes perfect and we've been practicing to not trust drafting a QB in round 1 for decades heading into the weak QB class of 2017.
In 2007, we won 10 games because we added vets like Eric Steinbach (to play next to Joe Thomas his rookie year), Hank Fraley, Joe Jurvicius and the Baltimore pronounced dead legs of Jamal Lewis that gave us 1300 yards and 9 TDs on the ground. We only had RAC as our HC so what made it ll possible? All the stars and planets finally aligned to make Cleveland an easier place to play QB for just that 1 season. Braylon Edwards and Derek Anderson had the best years of their careers. We could run INSIDE of tackle. The addition of Joe Thomas at LT meant Kevin Shafer could play in a much more comfortable niche at RT where he was a very efficient run blocker neighboring Ryan Tucker in his most comfortable niche at RG.
Okay, we'll forget that major inconvenience for you and ask what about Seattle taking Russell Wilson after round 1 while we reached on Brandon Weeden in round 1? What about Oakland taking Derek Carr in round 2 instead of us reaching on Manziel in round 1? Pretend history isn't a valuable educational tool? You're trying to Stephen King yourself a football savior here only because he's from Mentor, OH. You're putting on all your Lancelot armor and putting up a China Wall in between fiction and non-fiction here.
What about NOT drafting the Brady Quinn noone else seemed interested in back in 2007 so we have a pick before pick #111 of the 4th round in 2008? Before you correct me with we still go Joe Thomas at #3 overall - your buddy Shep wanted Quinn at #3 overall with his argument if you still don't have a QB you better be drafting one in round one. We did and he wasn't as good as Derek Anderson so he later had to go to Denver and learn he wasn't even as good as Tim Tebow. That's pretty impressive considering how Pro Ready we kept reading he was by all the scouts unwilling to attach their names to the statement. At least we got 1 good year out of Peyton Hillis in the swap for Quinn. Did we trade up for Mike Phipps at #3 overall too? Yeah, I'm not seeing the abracadabra behind the ole we have to draft a QB in round 1 if we don't have a franchise QB yet. The only MVP we've had throwing the football here in the last 50 years is a 13th round pick named Brian Sipe. If it wasn't for the supplemental draft, how far do we have to go back to see when the last time we drafted a keeper at QB in round 1? Practice makes perfect and we've been practicing to not trust drafting a QB in round 1 for decades heading into the weak QB class of 2017.
In 2007, we won 10 games because we added vets like Eric Steinbach (to play next to Joe Thomas his rookie year), Hank Fraley, Joe Jurvicius and the Baltimore pronounced dead legs of Jamal Lewis that gave us 1300 yards and 9 TDs on the ground. We only had RAC as our HC so what made it ll possible? All the stars and planets finally aligned to make Cleveland an easier place to play QB for just that 1 season. Braylon Edwards and Derek Anderson had the best years of their careers. We could run INSIDE of tackle. The addition of Joe Thomas at LT meant Kevin Shafer could play in a much more comfortable niche at RT where he was a very efficient run blocker neighboring Ryan Tucker in his most comfortable niche at RG.
Yeah Russell Wilson and a stud defense. I've said it's probably going to be Garrett. Start ticking off the other great current starters drafted third round and lower. Brady, Prescott. I won't rehash the stat the lower you draft a QB, the worse the odds of him succeeding. We've already been down that road with Frye & McCoy.
BTW, remember "it's a sin if we draft Quinn?" I saw trouble down the road with party boy Johnny, hated that pick, so kindly don't put those front office f-ups on my draft acumen.
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Okay, we'll forget that major inconvenience for you and ask what about Seattle taking Russell Wilson after round 1 while we reached on Brandon Weeden in round 1? What about Oakland taking Derek Carr in round 2 instead of us reaching on Manziel in round 1? Pretend history isn't a valuable educational tool? You're trying to Stephen King yourself a football savior here only because he's from Mentor, OH. You're putting on all your Lancelot armor and putting up a China Wall in between fiction and non-fiction here.
What about NOT drafting the Brady Quinn noone else seemed interested in back in 2007 so we have a pick before pick #111 of the 4th round in 2008? Before you correct me with we still go Joe Thomas at #3 overall - your buddy Shep wanted Quinn at #3 overall with his argument if you still don't have a QB you better be drafting one in round one. We did and he wasn't as good as Derek Anderson so he later had to go to Denver and learn he wasn't even as good as Tim Tebow. That's pretty impressive considering how Pro Ready we kept reading he was by all the scouts unwilling to attach their names to the statement. At least we got 1 good year out of Peyton Hillis in the swap for Quinn. Did we trade up for Mike Phipps at #3 overall too? Yeah, I'm not seeing the abracadabra behind the ole we have to draft a QB in round 1 if we don't have a franchise QB yet. The only MVP we've had throwing the football here in the last 50 years is a 13th round pick named Brian Sipe. If it wasn't for the supplemental draft, how far do we have to go back to see when the last time we drafted a keeper at QB in round 1? Practice makes perfect and we've been practicing to not trust drafting a QB in round 1 for decades heading into the weak QB class of 2017.
In 2007, we won 10 games because we added vets like Eric Steinbach (to play next to Joe Thomas his rookie year), Hank Fraley, Joe Jurvicius and the Baltimore pronounced dead legs of Jamal Lewis that gave us 1300 yards and 9 TDs on the ground. We only had RAC as our HC so what made it ll possible? All the stars and planets finally aligned to make Cleveland an easier place to play QB for just that 1 season. Braylon Edwards and Derek Anderson had the best years of their careers. We could run INSIDE of tackle. The addition of Joe Thomas at LT meant Kevin Shafer could play in a much more comfortable niche at RT where he was a very efficient run blocker neighboring Ryan Tucker in his most comfortable niche at RG.
Yeah Russell Wilson and a stud defense. I've said it's probably going to be Garrett. Start ticking off the other great current starters drafted third round and lower. Brady, Prescott. I won't rehash the stat the lower you draft a QB, the worse the odds of him succeeding. We've already been down that road with Frye & McCoy.
BTW, remember "it's a sin if we draft Quinn?" I saw trouble down the road with party boy Johnny, hated that pick, so kindly don't put those front office f-ups on my draft acumen.
Yeah Russell Wilson and a stud defense. I've said it's probably going to be Garrett. Start ticking off the other great current starters drafted third round and lower. Brady, Prescott. I won't rehash the stat the lower you draft a QB, the worse the odds of him succeeding. We've already been down that road with Frye & McCoy.
BTW, remember "it's a sin if we draft Quinn?" I saw trouble down the road with party boy Johnny, hated that pick, so kindly don't put those front office f-ups on my draft acumen.
No excuses or alibi's necessary. Wilson has been in 2 SBs without a very good offensive line and 2 undrafted WRs that start so I'd say he's done pretty good so far.
As for Manziel, you spent all of 2016 crying the current FO & Coaching Staff is the reason you couldn't see a franchise QB here in 2016. You better believe you needed some reminding of WHO passed on Derek Carr after he passed on Khalil Mack in 2014. You're the one that quoted Shep a month ago for saying if you don't have a franchise QB you better keep trying to draft one. I'm fine with that if one actually exists. What draft analysts/experts that have studied the QBs in great deal are saying they are confident one exists? I have zero to do with the perception of this year's QB class.
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Not that I put too much stock in throwing against no pass rush and no DBs; but I thought Trubisky and Watson looked good on Saturday. I didn't see this weak arm on Watson I've read about by people that want him to fail.
Not that I put too much stock in throwing against no pass rush and no DBs; but I thought Trubisky and Watson looked good on Saturday. I didn't see this weak arm on Watson I've read about by people that want him to fail.
Watson's throws impressed me more than any other QB's... period.
I thought I might have a new, 2017 Darkhorse candidate. C.J. Beathard's arm really impressed me... then I focused on his feet which in live shots looked like they were in slo-mo. The search continues...
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Not that I put too much stock in throwing against no pass rush and no DBs; but I thought Trubisky and Watson looked good on Saturday. I didn't see this weak arm on Watson I've read about by people that want him to fail.
Watson's throws impressed me more than any other QB's... period.
I thought I might have a new, 2017 Darkhorse candidate. C.J. Beathard's arm really impressed me... then I focused on his feet which in live shots looked like they were in slo-mo. The search continues...
Watson's throws impressed me more than any other QB's... period.
I thought I might have a new, 2017 Darkhorse candidate. C.J. Beathard's arm really impressed me... then I focused on his feet which in live shots looked like they were in slo-mo. The search continues...
Beathard played high school ball right here in Middle TN. I thought he had a good season in 2015 when he led Iowa to a big 10 Conference Championship appearance where his team lost in the closing seconds. Did he get injured in 2016? He could be a good late pick for somebody.
When they were throwing the out routes - I liked how consistently Watson effortlessly got the ball to the outside of the WRs with zip in comparison to others. It seemed like every one of them went there. A lot of his deeper throws were spot on too. He's not nearly as bad as a lot of people want to make him out to be IMO. That comeback vrs Alabama was a pretty good reflection of him 1 year after he led his team to 41 points against Bama. When there's a deficit to erase and the margin of error is all the way down to zero, it's fun to see what QBs have the poise, accuracy and abracadabra to lead their teams to victories. Our situation calls for a QB that can led us to victories over more talented opponents so some of that will be needed here. Having said that, people that have studied him much more than I seem just as reluctant to not call him a franchise QB as they are with Trubisky. I'm saying the same thing about both guys but I only have to wear battle armor to defend that point about Trubisky.
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Yeah Russell Wilson and a stud defense. I've said it's probably going to be Garrett. Start ticking off the other great current starters drafted third round and lower. Brady, Prescott. I won't rehash the stat the lower you draft a QB, the worse the odds of him succeeding. We've already been down that road with Frye & McCoy.
BTW, remember "it's a sin if we draft Quinn?" I saw trouble down the road with party boy Johnny, hated that pick, so kindly don't put those front office f-ups on my draft acumen.
No excuses or alibi's necessary. Wilson has been in 2 SBs without a very good offensive line and 2 undrafted WRs that start so I'd say he's done pretty good so far.
As for Manziel, you spent all of 2016 crying the current FO & Coaching Staff is the reason you couldn't see a franchise QB here in 2016. You better believe you needed some reminding of WHO passed on Derek Carr after he passed on Khalil Mack in 2014. You're the one that quoted Shep a month ago for saying if you don't have a franchise QB you better keep trying to draft one. I'm fine with that if one actually exists. What draft analysts/experts that have studied the QBs in great deal are saying they are confident one exists? I have zero to do with the perception of this year's QB class.
As for Manziel, you spent all of 2016 crying the current FO & Coaching Staff is the reason you couldn't see a franchise QB here in 2016. You better believe you needed some reminding of WHO passed on Derek Carr after he passed on Khalil Mack in 2014. You're the one that quoted Shep a month ago for saying if you don't have a franchise QB you better keep trying to draft one. I'm fine with that if one actually exists. What draft analysts/experts that have studied the QBs in great deal are saying they are confident one exists? I have zero to do with the perception of this year's QB class.2016- I was fine with Wentz, but not Goff. We'll see what the FO does with the #12 they got from the Eagles. Color me underwhelmed so far. Coleman needs to step up big time this year- or Ghoolie just might be right about him.
If the qbs are all as bad as the "experts" are proclaiming, may as well stick (and suck) with Kessler and draft #1 overall again next year.
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As for Manziel, you spent all of 2016 crying the current FO & Coaching Staff is the reason you couldn't see a franchise QB here in 2016. You better believe you needed some reminding of WHO passed on Derek Carr after he passed on Khalil Mack in 2014. You're the one that quoted Shep a month ago for saying if you don't have a franchise QB you better keep trying to draft one. I'm fine with that if one actually exists. What draft analysts/experts that have studied the QBs in great deal are saying they are confident one exists? I have zero to do with the perception of this year's QB class.
2016- I was fine with Wentz, but not Goff. We'll see what the FO does with the #12 they got from the Eagles. Color me underwhelmed so far. Coleman needs to step up big time this year- or Ghoolie just might be right about him.
If the qbs are all as bad as the "experts" are proclaiming, may as well stick (and suck) with Kessler and draft #1 overall again next year.
2016- I was fine with Wentz, but not Goff. We'll see what the FO does with the #12 they got from the Eagles. Color me underwhelmed so far. Coleman needs to step up big time this year- or Ghoolie just might be right about him.
If the qbs are all as bad as the "experts" are proclaiming, may as well stick (and suck) with Kessler and draft #1 overall again next year.
Antonio Brown only had 16 receptions for 167 yards and 0 TDs in 9 games as a rookie catching passes from #7. Today he's the best WR in the business.
Corey Coleman had 33 rec for 413 yards and 3 TDs in 10 games catching passes from about 4 different QBs and breaking his hand right after his best performance impacted his progress.
Sometimes it takes a little time to get to the magic at the Wr position. For example, Taylor Gabriel only had 1 TD in 2 years here. The last year he was here (2015) he only averaged 8.6 yards per catch on 28 rec for 241 yards in Flip's offense. In ATL in 2016, he caught 35 passes for 579 yards for 16.5 yards per catch and 6 TDs.
How nice do you suppose it would have been if we drafted both Derek Carr and Khalil Mack over Justin Gilbert and Johnny Manziel in 2014. 1) You wouldn't have to be disappointed in this regime's rookie season. 2) We'd have the 2 most important positions (QB and Edge Rusher) all set so this supply of QB prospects wouldn't even matter enough to debate about.
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As for Manziel, you spent all of 2016 crying the current FO & Coaching Staff is the reason you couldn't see a franchise QB here in 2016. You better believe you needed some reminding of WHO passed on Derek Carr after he passed on Khalil Mack in 2014. You're the one that quoted Shep a month ago for saying if you don't have a franchise QB you better keep trying to draft one. I'm fine with that if one actually exists. What draft analysts/experts that have studied the QBs in great deal are saying they are confident one exists? I have zero to do with the perception of this year's QB class.
2016- I was fine with Wentz, but not Goff. We'll see what the FO does with the #12 they got from the Eagles. Color me underwhelmed so far. Coleman needs to step up big time this year- or Ghoolie just might be right about him.
If the qbs are all as bad as the "experts" are proclaiming, may as well stick (and suck) with Kessler and draft #1 overall again next year.
If the qbs are all as bad as the "experts" are proclaiming, may as well stick (and suck) with Kessler and draft #1 overall again next year.
Oh, FFS...
It's a "weak" class. So you take a shot. Just don't bet the farm.
What you don't do is take your ball and go home.
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