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OK, just announce we're taking Garrett....

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  • @the-gipper said:

    Well, it would work like this: Commissioner Roger Goodell would go up to the podium and in a clear voice say: "with the first overall pick in the 2017 NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns select: ___________________________"

    And he says a name other than Garrett. And THAT is how they could take somebody other than Garrett.

    I won't even charge you for that answer. 😉

    Or he could say, to paraphrase and plagiarize from Winston Churchill, "The Browns, fools that they are to have once again ignored BPA, have committed franchise suicide by selecting _______________" 😉

    @texasag1969 said:

    Or he could say, to paraphrase and plagiarize from Winston Churchill, "The Browns, fools that they are to have once again ignored BPA, have committed franchise suicide by selecting _______________" 😉

    Yea, again....BPA won't be determined for like 5 years. The name Garrett could just as easily fit into your blank as any other name.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Or he could say, to paraphrase and plagiarize from Winston Churchill, "The Browns, fools that they are to have once again ignored BPA, have committed franchise suicide by selecting _______________" 😉

    Yea, again....BPA won't be determined for like 5 years. The name Garrett could just as easily fit into your blank as any other name.

    @the-gipper said:

    Yea, again....BPA won't be determined for like 5 years. The name Garrett could just as easily fit into your blank as any other name.

    Except that's not how time works.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Yea, again....BPA won't be determined for like 5 years. The name Garrett could just as easily fit into your blank as any other name.

    Except that's not how time works.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Except that's not how time works.

    It is exactly how it works.

    You don't know the value of a draft pick for some time.

    5 years from now Garrett may be mentioned in the same breath as Courtney Brown or Barkevious Mingo.

    And, of course, certainly he could be mentioned in the same breath as Von Miller etc.

    But right here, right now you don't have a fucking clue which it will be.

    So that is exactly how time works. In 5 years, we will likely know which he is.

    If the Browns take him....like I said I hope he will walk on water.

    But, again, will he be Jesus....or Judas and hang him and all of us from a tree for 30 pieces of silver.

    You think your Messiah hath cometh. But my first name is Thomas....after the Saint. You know...doubting Thomas!

  • Did you guys know Myles Garrett could be the next Courtney Brown?

    I mean, Gipper's told you about 412 times so far this year, and since no one seems to be changing their opinion on him, I figured maybe you guys needed to hear it from you.

  • Did you guys know Myles Garrett could be the next Courtney Brown?

    I mean, Gipper's told you about 412 times so far this year, and since no one seems to be changing their opinion on him, I figured maybe you guys needed to hear it from you.

    @wargograw said:

    Did you guys know Myles Garrett could be the next Courtney Brown?

    I mean, Gipper's told you about 412 times so far this year, and since no one seems to be changing their opinion on him, I figured maybe you guys needed to hear it from you.

    No one is forcing you to be here....to participate...to respond. You don't like what is being said, you can always click off.

    Sayonara Sucker.

  • @wargograw said:

    Did you guys know Myles Garrett could be the next Courtney Brown?

    I mean, Gipper's told you about 412 times so far this year, and since no one seems to be changing their opinion on him, I figured maybe you guys needed to hear it from you.

    No one is forcing you to be here....to participate...to respond. You don't like what is being said, you can always click off.

    Sayonara Sucker.

    @the-gipper said:

    No one is forcing you to be here....to participate...to respond. You don't like what is being said, you can always click off.

    Sayonara Sucker.

    I like what 99% of people are saying. I have low patience for someone who doesn't contribute anything but the same exact talking point in every thread.

  • @the-gipper said:

    No one is forcing you to be here....to participate...to respond. You don't like what is being said, you can always click off.

    Sayonara Sucker.

    I like what 99% of people are saying. I have low patience for someone who doesn't contribute anything but the same exact talking point in every thread.

    @wargograw said:

    I like what 99% of people are saying. I have low patience for someone who doesn't contribute anything but the same exact talking point in every thread.

    I get it. You don't like being on the losing end of an argument.

    YOU say the exact same things over and over. I have merely responded. If you don't like the same response, then don't you keep making the same points over and over.

    You just now complained about that fact that I did NOT repeat my arguments over again in response to TC. So do you also have impatience when an argument goes in a new direction as well?

    Make up your mind.

  • Just draft Garrett. Start working on #12

  • @wargograw said:

    I like what 99% of people are saying. I have low patience for someone who doesn't contribute anything but the same exact talking point in every thread.

    I get it. You don't like being on the losing end of an argument.

    YOU say the exact same things over and over. I have merely responded. If you don't like the same response, then don't you keep making the same points over and over.

    You just now complained about that fact that I did NOT repeat my arguments over again in response to TC. So do you also have impatience when an argument goes in a new direction as well?

    Make up your mind.

    @the-gipper said:

    I get it. You don't like being on the losing end of an argument.

    YOU say the exact same things over and over. I have merely responded. If you don't like the same response, then don't you keep making the same points over and over.

    You just now complained about that fact that I did NOT repeat my arguments over again in response to TC. So do you also have impatience when an argument goes in a new direction as well?

    Make up your mind.

    A good ole fashioned "I know you are, but what am I?" counterargument? They teach you that one in law school?

    You don't even know which camp I'm in but I have been repeating myself? Okie dokie.

  • Who was the last pass rushing bust NOT drafted by the browns?

  • Dion Jordan?

  • @the-gipper said:

    I get it. You don't like being on the losing end of an argument.

    YOU say the exact same things over and over. I have merely responded. If you don't like the same response, then don't you keep making the same points over and over.

    You just now complained about that fact that I did NOT repeat my arguments over again in response to TC. So do you also have impatience when an argument goes in a new direction as well?

    Make up your mind.

    A good ole fashioned "I know you are, but what am I?" counterargument? They teach you that one in law school?

    You don't even know which camp I'm in but I have been repeating myself? Okie dokie.

    @wargograw said:

    A good ole fashioned "I know you are, but what am I?" counterargument? They teach you that one in law school?

    You don't even know which camp I'm in but I have been repeating myself? Okie dokie.

    You just repeated yourself again for the third time telling me that you don't know which camp you are in....and I accepted it the first time.

    So...yes Okie, you are repeating yourself (does a guy from Texas like being called an Okie? That is what I will call you from now on)

  • When you mischaracterize my position, I will point it out.

  • Who was the last pass rushing bust NOT drafted by the browns?

    @clevfan4life said:

    Who was the last pass rushing bust NOT drafted by the browns?

    Maybe Rob Burnett....1990? He had 40.5 sacks in 6 years with the Browns. that is 6.75 per year.

    For a 7th round pick...Armonty Bryant was not a "bust" really. It seemed like he could have been a good pass rusher. Other issues got in his way.

    Would Jaball Sheard count? He had 23 sacks in his 4 years with the Browns. Not great at 5.75 sacks a year...but not a "bust".

  • When you mischaracterize my position, I will point it out.

    @wargograw said:

    When you mischaracterize my position, I will point it out.

    Okie Dokie Okie.

  • wasnt sheards firstbyear pretty good when he was DE? Then got turned into olb'er

  • wasnt sheards firstbyear pretty good when he was DE? Then got turned into olb'er

    @clevfan4life said:

    wasnt sheards firstbyear pretty good when he was DE? Then got turned into olb'er

    Yes. He had 8.5 sacks his rookie season at DE...turned into an OLB by our brilliant DCs, and his sacks curtailed. When he went to NE he went back to DE and his sacks went up again.

  • Don't know why but I have a vague feeling of unease about Garrett.

    Maybe it's that Universal opinion that he's the greatest thing since sliced corned beef.

    Players really live up to that kind of hype... Just saying

    WSS

  • Don't know why but I have a vague feeling of unease about Garrett.

    Maybe it's that Universal opinion that he's the greatest thing since sliced corned beef.

    Players really live up to that kind of hype... Just saying

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Don't know why but I have a vague feeling of unease about Garrett.

    Maybe it's that Universal opinion that he's the greatest thing since sliced corned beef.

    Players really live up to that kind of hype... Just saying

    WSS

    So if the Browns don't chose him he turns into Khalil Mack and if they do he turns into Soupy Sales?

    Clowney had a lot of hype, but once he recovered from injuries he lived up to it despite not having JJ Watt to take the heat off him. And this was after he played his last year at S.C. not to get hurt.

    Overthinking has killed the Browns forever. Just once don't do it that way again.