Browns trade for BROCK OSWEILER
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I bet Sashi fucking owns in madden trades!
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Also I think it still remains to be seen how Sashi turns out as a player evaluator, but if he does end up losing his job here some time in the future, you sure as hell can bet he is going to get picked up by a good team to run trades for them. Look at this off the wall trading the past year.
Moved back 27 spots in the 7th round to take Jamie Taylor, a poor performing CB who ended up just needing a change in scenery. Signed him to a new deal after a good year.
Traded a 3rd Comp pick for Jamie Collins, Pro-Bowl LB on the last year of his contract basically to have first rights to sign him. Resigned him.
Now the move back from 4th the 6th round this year to swallow a huge contract and gain a 2nd round pick in 2018.
You don't see other teams in the NFL make these kinds of trades. This is amazing, innovative stuff in the NFL.
Let's not forget:
4th rounder for a 35 year old punter, replaced him with younger one off the street and re-signed to long-term deal.
5th rounder for special teams "player" Bark Mingo who is now a FA.
6th rounder from division rival Steelers for bust Justin Gilbert, who they could not cut fast enough after the season.
Questions?
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I'll wait to see this play out but right now, at first take, this looks like a bad move.
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I'll wait to see this play out but right now, at first take, this looks like a bad move.
I'll wait to see this play out but right now, at first take, this looks like a bad move.
Hahahaha well who saw that coming
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So we just paid $16 million for a 2nd round pick.
I don't know if that's a good deal or not.
Depends on what we do with the pick.
We've pretty much got the market on backup QB's cornered.
Depends on what we do with the pick.
We've pretty much got the market on backup QB's cornered.
Well thats sort of what if asking.... If another team contacted the Browns and said hey we want to sell you are 2nd round pick for $16 millon would they do it?
"You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978 -
Pending no trade/release, are the Browns are on the hook for his full salary?
Just for 1 year..... Zero down side as we had to spend a certain amount anyway, and if we somehow keep him and he works out great, if not, we cut him next year and he has zero impact.
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Man I've been telling everyone since the purge that Sashi and this FO are smart guys who are setting this team up for big things and you all just bitched and moaned about analytics and how you wanted "football guys" and not Harvard guys. Well this is what Harvard guys brought you: Coaches Jackson and Williams, Zeitler, Tretter, Britt, Collins, and a shitload of draft picks.
NEWSFLASH! Being smart is GOOD! America used to celebrate that, not mock it. Here is intelligence in all its glory. Love it, embrace it, because it's going to end 18 seasons of sucking.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
0-16. Tell me that when we have results. Otherwise it's just hyped up bullshit.
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I like the trade and the overall thought process of it, but with that being said, it doesn't matter how many high draft picks we have if we don't hit on them..... So as much as I like what they did, it's only part of the deal and picking the player(s) is the money shot.
and with our draft history, I'll refrain from jumping up and down on the couch.
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Yes we have to hit on picks. More the merrier in the crapshoot that is the NFL draft.
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Well....gotta say...this whole trade is interesting, if nothing else....
There has to be more to the plan then just buying a 2nd......Interested to see how this plays out over the coming months....
With all our cash and the massive hole at QB, dont see any risk here....and lots of potential upside.....waiting for part II
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Holy shit I love it!
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... If another team contacted the Browns and said hey we want to sell you are 2nd round pick for $16 millon would they do it?
Who's money are we playing with?
or
How much do I have?
In fairness, we got a 6th this year and a guy that plays QB to go along with the 2nd.
If money is no object then I think we did well in the numbers game.
But what did we do for the QB position?
Does this preclude us from making any more QB maneuvers? Are we 'all set'? He's our starter?
If so, I'm not thrilled with that part of the deal...but hey, we would now go balls-to-the-wall to get him help to make him successful. And that includes defensive players to get him the ball back.
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... If another team contacted the Browns and said hey we want to sell you are 2nd round pick for $16 millon would they do it?
Who's money are we playing with?
or
How much do I have?
In fairness, we got a 6th this year and a guy that plays QB to go along with the 2nd.
If money is no object then I think we did well in the numbers game.
But what did we do for the QB position?
Does this preclude us from making any more QB maneuvers? Are we 'all set'? He's our starter?
If so, I'm not thrilled with that part of the deal...but hey, we would now go balls-to-the-wall to get him help to make him successful. And that includes defensive players to get him the ball back.
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We essentially just moved some cap space to next year for a 2nd round pick, right?
Just got back from some wine class business I had to attend to- yeah, I'm an official College wine appreciation instructor. Years of boozing finally paid off. Now I swear I hadn't been drinking -much. When I first saw the thread title- my first thought was Hey, it's not April Fools day- yet. Houston should be thanking us to high heaven for taking Osweiler's fat contract (which many have said was the worst ever) off their hands. Puts them squarley in the Tony Romo sweepstakes.
We just bought a 2018 2nd round pick for $$16mil! Brilliant!! Keep him for 1 year and see if Hue can turn him around. Plus get to see Kessler for 1 more year of growth with our new,improved OL.
Or dump him. Adios, R Glass while we're at it. .
Forget paying $16m for the pick, and realise we'll either trade him (and then it becomes different) or, we cut RG3 and so we're only really worse off by $8.5m.
That oodles of cap room the Browns have will permit them to shop Brock at a reasonable price, if that's their goal to get even more picks next year. Though I doubt Osweiler has much in the way of trade value.
"The #Browns draft picks after the Osweiler trade:
2017: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6
2018: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7"
If it's dumpster dive for Darnold- those three second round picks give us plenty of ammunition. Or again, Four picks in the top 64 give the Browns enough flexibility to be a major player in 2018.
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Ian Rapoport tweeted. . .
My understand of #Browns QB situation: Theyโll release RGIII. Shop Brock Osweiler and see what comes of it. Likely draft a QB as well.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
So we just paid $16 million for a 2nd round pick.
I don't know if that's a good deal or not.
So we just paid $16 million for a 2nd round pick.
I don't know if that's a good deal or not.
Hey, its not our money.
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