Browns trade for BROCK OSWEILER
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I like the trade and the overall thought process of it, but with that being said, it doesn't matter how many high draft picks we have if we don't hit on them..... So as much as I like what they did, it's only part of the deal and picking the player(s) is the money shot.
and with our draft history, I'll refrain from jumping up and down on the couch.
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Yes we have to hit on picks. More the merrier in the crapshoot that is the NFL draft.
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Well....gotta say...this whole trade is interesting, if nothing else....
There has to be more to the plan then just buying a 2nd......Interested to see how this plays out over the coming months....
With all our cash and the massive hole at QB, dont see any risk here....and lots of potential upside.....waiting for part II
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Holy shit I love it!
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... If another team contacted the Browns and said hey we want to sell you are 2nd round pick for $16 millon would they do it?
Who's money are we playing with?
or
How much do I have?
In fairness, we got a 6th this year and a guy that plays QB to go along with the 2nd.
If money is no object then I think we did well in the numbers game.
But what did we do for the QB position?
Does this preclude us from making any more QB maneuvers? Are we 'all set'? He's our starter?
If so, I'm not thrilled with that part of the deal...but hey, we would now go balls-to-the-wall to get him help to make him successful. And that includes defensive players to get him the ball back.
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... If another team contacted the Browns and said hey we want to sell you are 2nd round pick for $16 millon would they do it?
Who's money are we playing with?
or
How much do I have?
In fairness, we got a 6th this year and a guy that plays QB to go along with the 2nd.
If money is no object then I think we did well in the numbers game.
But what did we do for the QB position?
Does this preclude us from making any more QB maneuvers? Are we 'all set'? He's our starter?
If so, I'm not thrilled with that part of the deal...but hey, we would now go balls-to-the-wall to get him help to make him successful. And that includes defensive players to get him the ball back.
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We essentially just moved some cap space to next year for a 2nd round pick, right?
Just got back from some wine class business I had to attend to- yeah, I'm an official College wine appreciation instructor. Years of boozing finally paid off. Now I swear I hadn't been drinking -much. When I first saw the thread title- my first thought was Hey, it's not April Fools day- yet. Houston should be thanking us to high heaven for taking Osweiler's fat contract (which many have said was the worst ever) off their hands. Puts them squarley in the Tony Romo sweepstakes.
We just bought a 2018 2nd round pick for $$16mil! Brilliant!! Keep him for 1 year and see if Hue can turn him around. Plus get to see Kessler for 1 more year of growth with our new,improved OL.
Or dump him. Adios, R Glass while we're at it. .
Forget paying $16m for the pick, and realise we'll either trade him (and then it becomes different) or, we cut RG3 and so we're only really worse off by $8.5m.
That oodles of cap room the Browns have will permit them to shop Brock at a reasonable price, if that's their goal to get even more picks next year. Though I doubt Osweiler has much in the way of trade value.
"The #Browns draft picks after the Osweiler trade:
2017: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6
2018: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7"
If it's dumpster dive for Darnold- those three second round picks give us plenty of ammunition. Or again, Four picks in the top 64 give the Browns enough flexibility to be a major player in 2018.
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Ian Rapoport tweeted. . .
My understand of #Browns QB situation: They’ll release RGIII. Shop Brock Osweiler and see what comes of it. Likely draft a QB as well.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
So we just paid $16 million for a 2nd round pick.
I don't know if that's a good deal or not.
So we just paid $16 million for a 2nd round pick.
I don't know if that's a good deal or not.
Hey, its not our money.
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Word is that the Browns had made the trade for Osweiler, and in only ten minutes, they were hearing from
some other teams about the possibility of trading for him.
The Browns could eat his contract for this year, and trade him and a couple of second round picks for the guy they want.
Garroppolo. or......... Cousins, since he wants out of Washington. The Browns are maneuvering very smartly, thinking
"out of the box".
I don't think anybody saw this trade coming.
Browns already receiving trade calls about Brock OsweilerThe Cleveland Browns didn’t even have Brock Osweiler for 10 minutes before they started receiving trade calls on the quarterback.Cleveland acquired Osweiler from the Houston Texans on Thursday for a 2018 second-round pick and 2017 6th-round pick, though they are sending a 2017 4th-round pick to the Texans in return.There are mixed reports about the Browns’
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The people on this board who are routinely wrong about things tend to be in unanimous decision that this was a bad move....so now I feel even better about it.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
It's brilliant because they have to reach the cap floor. Instead of forcing yourself into a contract you don't want for who knows how long, you get the FA you want this year and use that money next year on other guys you really want. Add in the second next year and everyone wins. I can't believe how smart this was!
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Anybody hoping Brock returns to his Denver form and actually competes for the spot on the browns? all of the physical stuff is there to be molded into a good QB lets see what the "QB Whisperer" can do with this guy lol.
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I think these games on ESPN or a little dense they had a 15 minute discussion about the Brock white or trade and not once did he mention the fact that it may have been a set up to trade for the Rapalo voice activated misspellings occur to me
I think these games on ESPN or a little dense they had a 15 minute discussion about the Brock white or trade and not once did he mention the fact that it may have been a set up to trade for the Rapalo voice activated misspellings occur to me
I think 'the rapalo' is a pretty good nickname for JG.
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Anybody hoping Brock returns to his Denver form and actually competes for the spot on the browns? all of the physical stuff is there to be molded into a good QB lets see what the "QB Whisperer" can do with this guy lol.
Anybody hoping Brock returns to his Denver form and actually competes for the spot on the browns? all of the physical stuff is there to be molded into a good QB lets see what the "QB Whisperer" can do with this guy lol.
He is too inaccurate, he will NEVER become accurate enough. He's going to make a great TV analyst in the next 5 years though.
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Well he will likely be here during preseason atleast... hearing some rumbling that the nfl is not happy with the browns making this trade and will implement measures for this kind of trade to not happen again. makes sense the browns basically bought a draft pick... unfortunately to save some face i would bet money that brock slides into RG's role 2017 which is an upgrade at worst to be honest.
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Man I've been telling everyone since the purge that Sashi and this FO are smart guys who are setting this team up for big things and you all just bitched and moaned about analytics and how you wanted "football guys" and not Harvard guys. Well this is what Harvard guys brought you: Coaches Jackson and Williams, Zeitler, Tretter, Britt, Collins, and a shitload of draft picks.
NEWSFLASH! Being smart is GOOD! America used to celebrate that, not mock it. Here is intelligence in all its glory. Love it, embrace it, because it's going to end 18 seasons of sucking.
Man I've been telling everyone since the purge that Sashi and this FO are smart guys who are setting this team up for big things and you all just bitched and moaned about analytics and how you wanted "football guys" and not Harvard guys. Well this is what Harvard guys brought you: Coaches Jackson and Williams, Zeitler, Tretter, Britt, Collins, and a shitload of draft picks.
NEWSFLASH! Being smart is GOOD! America used to celebrate that, not mock it. Here is intelligence in all its glory. Love it, embrace it, because it's going to end 18 seasons of sucking.
GREAT POST!!!
I have also defended Jimmy, Dee & this FO for their passion & determination to create a WINNER in Cleveland. I had said before that we, as Fans, had to accept sweeping (and possibly uncomfortable) change in order to change the losing culture which had taken hold.
Jimmy, Sashi, & this FO brought what the Browns have needed for years.....Intelligence, passion, change, & the willingness to learn from & grow from their own mistakes.
The roots of this plan are growing deeper & stronger....where are all the naysayers now?
Mike
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Well he will likely be here during preseason atleast... hearing some rumbling that the nfl is not happy with the browns making this trade and will implement measures for this kind of trade to not happen again. makes sense the browns basically bought a draft pick... unfortunately to save some face i would bet money that brock slides into RG's role 2017 which is an upgrade at worst to be honest.
Well he will likely be here during preseason atleast... hearing some rumbling that the nfl is not happy with the browns making this trade and will implement measures for this kind of trade to not happen again. makes sense the browns basically bought a draft pick... unfortunately to save some face i would bet money that brock slides into RG's role 2017 which is an upgrade at worst to be honest.
If they do create a rule I would like to know how this hurt the product. This move on paper made both teams better.
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