Zietler to the Browns per Adam Schefter

Tour2ma

Zombo said:
President could learn a thing from Sashi ... This is how you build a wall.

lmao...

gftChris

@osiris said:
Nice, I'm batting 1,000 on my free-agency predictions so far (predicted Britt and Tretter as well as Zeitler).

Did you have 'Get a second round pick for $16m' on there as well?

blitzz2

With the upgrading of the O line, Would love to see Mixon fall to our 2nd pick in the 2nd rd. All his intangibles rated better than the Zeke. We all know his back story, but hell, the NFL is full of 2nd chances.

Tour2ma

lol... C'mon Shon... catch up!

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/839989238095568896/photo/1

Osiris

@gftchris said:
Did you have 'Get a second round pick for $16m' on there as well?

Ha, nope. That took me by surprise, but I was only talking about free agency. I had trade for JimmyG though as another prediction. We'll see on that one.

Orion

The Ghoul must be lovin' this. He LOVES his fat-asses.

The OL needs the help badly.

And still more OF it.

gumby73

@tour2ma said:

lol... C'mon Shon... catch up!

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/839989238095568896/photo/1

I still remember when they counted Big John Greco out before..If he's able, somebody is going to have to earn it

miktoxic

Zombo said:

President could learn a thing from Sashi ... This is how you build a wall.

Zombo

a proper wall would block mexico florida and california.

hoorta

@blitzz2 said:
With the upgrading of the O line, Would love to see Mixon fall to our 2nd pick in the 2nd rd. All his intangibles rated better than the Zeke. We all know his back story, but hell, the NFL is full of 2nd chances.

Don't think Mixon will be in our plans, not after the way he cold-cocked that woman. From what I saw on his pro day, wasn't too apologetic about it either. Ray Rice is still looking for work the last I heard.

hoorta

@tour2ma said:

lol... C'mon Shon... catch up!

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/839989238095568896/photo/1

Now we can draft that rookie qb- he's going to have all day to throw. The odds of Crow rushing for 1,000 yards just went way down too.

beare

Cant believe anyone would want mixon !!!!!

wargograw

@hoorta said:

Don't think Mixon will be in our plans, not after the way he cold-cocked that woman. From what I saw on his pro day, wasn't too apologetic about it either. Ray Rice is still looking for work the last I heard.

Ray Rice isn't half the talent and has about 10 years on Mixon too though.

tiamat63

@blitzz2 said:
With the upgrading of the O line, Would love to see Mixon fall to our 2nd pick in the 2nd rd. All his intangibles rated better than the Zeke. We all know his back story, but hell, the NFL is full of 2nd chances.

Do tell?

hoorta

@wargograw said:
Ray Rice isn't half the talent and has about 10 years on Mixon too though.

Not saying currently, but the situation is similar. Don't often agree with Charlie Casserly but this time I do. He said "wouldn't touch him, but some team will." Was that a one time incident (Dak Prescott) or a character flaw that is going to show up again? (Lawrence Phillips)

We took on a former Heisman winning qb with known character flaws- (besides the drinking, hmmm- whacked his former GF pretty good- twice http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/manziel-hit-ex-gf-hard-eardrum-ruptured-lawyer-article-1.2524654 and it bit us in the ass big time.

So for now, no thanks to this loser. I'd take Fournette, Cook, or McCafferty before I'd take a chance on this guy.

30yearbrownsfan

Like it. This is good start. Is it time for optimistic thinking yet?

wargograw

@hoorta said:

Not saying currently, but the situation is similar. Don't often agree with Charlie Casserly but this time I do. He said "wouldn't touch him, but some team will." Was that a one time incident (Dak Prescott) or a character flaw that is going to show up again? (Lawrence Phillips)

We took on a former Heisman winning qb with known character flaws- (besides the drinking, hmmm- whacked his former GF pretty good- twice http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/manziel-hit-ex-gf-hard-eardrum-ruptured-lawyer-article-1.2524654 and it bit us in the ass big time.

So for now, no thanks to this loser. I'd take Fournette, Cook, or McCafferty before I'd take a chance on this guy.

Yeah and those guys are going to cost you a first rounder. No comparison.

RoyceRolls

@hoorta said:

Was that a one time incident (Dak Prescott) or a character flaw that is going to show up again? (Lawrence Phillips)

This is the million dollar question.

A radio guy was talking about the Joe Mixon situation yesterday. He basically asked this question. Mixon was an 18 year old who couldn't control his anger, lost his shit and punched a lady. Mixon was suspended for a year and nothing else has surfaced (to my knowledge).

Mike Vick was a grown man who ran a business that revolved around the pre-meditated torture and murder of dogs. He did his time in prison and came out to a second chance in the NFL.

If Mixon never had these issues, he would undoubtedly be a 1st rd RB, but that's not why the Browns met with him. I believe the FO showed us their priorities yesterday when they dropped a zillion dollars into the o line. The analytics team obviously saw that the RB talent is sufficient, provided they receive good run blocking.

This FO doesn't want to make 1st round investments in the RB position, in my opinion. They will, however, think long and hard about adding a 1st rd talent at a deeply discounted price if they believe the off field problems will stay in the past.

I'm torn on this one, it's a high risk, high reward proposition. If Mixon has learned from his past and seeks the help he needs to cope with his anger issues, I say give the kid a chance. If he's a malignant narcissist who has no remorse for his actions, let someone else deal with the headache.

From a purely football perspective, the dude can ball. He has great vision, he's very agile, makes great cuts and also has great patience, I'm talkin' Leveon Bell patience. Also, every report I've seen has said that he killed his pro day, which included a 4.43 40 time... such a shame that he had to be so fucking stupid.

LondonBrown

Greg cosell called him the most complete back in the draft, he's going to have lots of interest.

calfoxwc

I suppose somebody will draft him later on in the draft... day three...

but he broke her jaw. I wouldn't sign him as an UDFA

he broke her jaw and cheekbone. Then, this past season, he gets a parking ticket, goes nuts and throws it,

hitting the parking lot attendent in the face? He still attends anger management? NO.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2017/01/27/joe-mixon-oklahoma-first-round-grade-advisory-committee/97154524/

"Last month, the Oklahoma Supreme Court ordered the release of the gruesome video showing Mixon breaking the woman’s jaw and cheekbone with a punch after she shoved Mixon and slapped both sides of his neck during the July 2014 incident. Mixon entered an Alford plea at the time, acknowledging there was likely enough evidence to convict him of a misdemeanor charge while still asserting his innocence. He did not serve jail time and was ordered to perform 100 hours of community service and undergo counseling. Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops said last month that, if the incident occurred now, dismissal would be the only option with Mixon.

Mixon also was suspended one game this past season for tearing up a parking ticket and throwing it, allegedly hitting a parking lot attendant in the face. Maturity and anger management are obvious questions teams will have as they continue to study Mixon in the coming months.

Schaffer said Mixon has completed all his court-mandated requirements but continues to attend anger management classes."

cambridgeho

I do belive in 2nd chances, but shit man. You just can't forget that he did do that. Someone will draft him, for sure. I just hope it's not us. I had a hard time with the Crowell thing last year. A woman beater, nah f that shit, there are other players to be drafted.