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  • 2017: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6

    2018: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7

  • We have ammo for any trade we want. I see us building the defense this year and the FO going all in on Josh Rosen next year.

  • One of the points on NFL Live yesterday is that this many picks cannot be used to draft individual players beyond year 2 of a rebuild. To do so would turn over the roster too fast, keep it too young to ever develop into a successful playoff team. So that leaves using the accumulated picks as currency to trade for players or higher picks.

    I agree for the most part, but that two-year limit is contingent upon drafting well both of those years. This is our year two and I think most here agree that our year one draft was OK at best.

    Combine that with our growing confidence in our FO's ability to evaluate player worth (Schwartz and TP) and I feel pretty good about letting them determine the most effective path to our next QB.

    And I would not be surprised to see that path have more than one branch... just as a hedge.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • gumby73G gumby73

    The QB will be the absolute key of this whole re-Boot..Our divisional teams are still full of aging veterans & there QB's are not getting any younger either..Need the Big Boot behind center. but we got better pieces around it today..Baby Steps took a big step today..

    @gumby73 said:

    The QB will be the absolute key of this whole re-Boot..Our divisional teams are still full of aging veterans & there QB's are not getting any younger either..Need the Big Boot behind center. but we got better pieces around it today..Baby Steps took a big step today..

    More and more though it may be possible that that QB will be someone they may want to after in next year's draft...not this year's.

    Darnold

    Rosen etc.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @gumby73 said:

    The QB will be the absolute key of this whole re-Boot..Our divisional teams are still full of aging veterans & there QB's are not getting any younger either..Need the Big Boot behind center. but we got better pieces around it today..Baby Steps took a big step today..

    More and more though it may be possible that that QB will be someone they may want to after in next year's draft...not this year's.

    Darnold

    Rosen etc.

    @the-gipper said:

    More and more though it may be possible that that QB will be someone they may want to after in next year's draft...not this year's.

    Darnold

    Rosen etc.

    NFL Network speculated on that saying the Browns may be building the way Seattle did, build the rest of the team first, then drop in a QB who is not under pressure to "save" the franchise, just get 17 or so completions a game. We have addressed our OL very well so far and if we go "all in" on a D with this strong defensive draft, then we have our answer. BO in the meantime can try to rekindle his prospects with a guy who loves the taller QBs. That latter was my thought, not theirs.

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  • ** shudders **

    Please, keep thoughts like that last one to yourself...

    You know how allergic I am too long motions and slow releases...

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    ** shudders **

    Please, keep thoughts like that last one to yourself...

    You know how allergic I am too long motions and slow releases...

    @tour2ma said:

    ** shudders **

    Please, keep thoughts like that last one to yourself...

    You know how allergic I am too long motions and slow releases...

    So? Its Wham Bam, Thank you Ma'am for you?

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    ** shudders **

    Please, keep thoughts like that last one to yourself...

    You know how allergic I am too long motions and slow releases...

    @tour2ma said:

    ** shudders **

    Please, keep thoughts like that last one to yourself...

    You know how allergic I am too long motions and slow releases...

    LOL Gip ( that would be OL, OL for you Tour) 😄

    Since we have him and released RG III, there is now no harm in trying if we do not acquire anyone else in FA or draft. Would you just rather have Kessler/Hogan?

    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • With all the 2nds the next 2 years. Would it be possible to trade a few 2nds for a 15-32 range pick. Not sure how the points add up.

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • T TexasAg1969

    @tour2ma said:

    ** shudders **

    Please, keep thoughts like that last one to yourself...

    You know how allergic I am too long motions and slow releases...

    LOL Gip ( that would be OL, OL for you Tour) 😄

    Since we have him and released RG III, there is now no harm in trying if we do not acquire anyone else in FA or draft. Would you just rather have Kessler/Hogan?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Since we have him and released RG III, there is now no harm in trying if we do not acquire anyone else in FA or draft. Would you just rather have Kessler/Hogan?

    Absolutely, but I can't see us not taking a QB at some point of the draft... even if we grab an FA or make a trade.

    Based on some of the dirt surfacing in HOU, I don't think I want Brockweiler in my QB room.

    Kess v Hogan? I was thinking about that a bit ago. I have to go Kess

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • cambridgehoC cambridgeho

    With all the 2nds the next 2 years. Would it be possible to trade a few 2nds for a 15-32 range pick. Not sure how the points add up.

    @cambridgeho said:

    With all the 2nds the next 2 years. Woukd it be possible to trade a few 2nds for a 15-32 range for another player. Not sure how the points add up.

    Sure... problem is using which chart? Can get very expensive, if use the old, JJohnson one and you're talking about the 15 end of your range.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • T TexasAg1969

    @the-gipper said:

    More and more though it may be possible that that QB will be someone they may want to after in next year's draft...not this year's.

    Darnold

    Rosen etc.

    NFL Network speculated on that saying the Browns may be building the way Seattle did, build the rest of the team first, then drop in a QB who is not under pressure to "save" the franchise, just get 17 or so completions a game. We have addressed our OL very well so far and if we go "all in" on a D with this strong defensive draft, then we have our answer. BO in the meantime can try to rekindle his prospects with a guy who loves the taller QBs. That latter was my thought, not theirs.

    @texasag1969 said:

    NFL Network speculated on that saying the Browns may be building the way Seattle did, build the rest of the team first, then drop in a QB who is not under pressure to "save" the franchise, just get 17 or so completions a game.

    Couldn't agree more.

    Kudos to the FO if this was their plan since last year... and moreso since they seem to have convinced Haslam that you can't build solely through the draft if you want a quicker turn around.

  • It's the right thing to do for every team without a QB. Run the ball and play good defense to stay competitive till the day you luck into a QB. If ya prioritize QB over everything else, you merely create an environment that makes it more difficult for a young QB to succeed.

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