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  • chocoC choco

    seriously, its only worse in your head. shrub was a disater, so obama has to screw up pretty bad to be in that company.

    yet, the continued attempt by the right to discredit obama thru smear is actually quite pathetic.....the GOP still hasn't even figured out where it went wrong. you say you need to reinvent the GOP image, yet, i still see old men crying for lower taxes....

    the only arguments i see the right making against obama are merely idealogical differences......you dont like way he greeted the saudi king (insert conjecture here).....blah blah blah.

    simple fact is, he's done nothing shrub hasn't done.....so what if he needs a teleprompter.....shrub couldn't even get the speech out when he used one, so consider with whom you are trying to draw parallels to.

    fiscally, conservatives have the right idea.....too bad they spend like democrats. socially, you need to stay the xxxx outta my business. keep your religion to yourselves, because we dont care what you think.

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    @choco said:

    simple fact is, he's done nothing shrub hasn't done

    That's kind of the point Choco and mz the pussy.

    And Bush was despised for it.

    fiscally, conservatives have the right idea.....too bad they spend like democrats.

    Yes. But now it's many times worse. Complain about spending and elect the guy who vows to quadruple it.

    Make sense?

    socially, you need to stay the xxxx outta my business. keep your religion to yourselves, because we dont care what you think.

    And the fact that that the president comes from a far more outspoken and hard core Christian church than G W Bush and holds the same view of gay marriage means what to you?

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      @choco said:

      seriously, its only worse in your head. shrub was a disater, so obama has to screw up pretty bad to be in that company.

      yet, the continued attempt by the right to discredit obama thru smear is actually quite pathetic.....the GOP still hasn't even figured out where it went wrong. you say you need to reinvent the GOP image, yet, i still see old men crying for lower taxes....

      the only arguments i see the right making against obama are merely idealogical differences......you dont like way he greeted the saudi king (insert conjecture here).....blah blah blah.

      simple fact is, he's done nothing shrub hasn't done.....so what if he needs a teleprompter.....shrub couldn't even get the speech out when he used one, so consider with whom you are trying to draw parallels to.

      fiscally, conservatives have the right idea.....too bad they spend like democrats. socially, you need to stay the xxxx outta my business. keep your religion to yourselves, because we dont care what you think.

      Outstanding post, choco.

      Economically, I don't see much of difference between parties at this point, much like you. The social issues thing is the part that concerns me as well. Those who claim to champion freedom that get all in our (and everyone's) personal shit for whatever Biblical or "values" reason is exactly what gets me too.

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      mz. said:

      Outstanding post, choco.

      Economically, I don't see much of difference between parties at this point, much like you. The social issues thing is the part that concerns me as well. Those who claim to champion freedom that get all in our (and everyone's) personal shit for whatever Biblical or "values" reason is exactly what gets me too.

      Do you have a problem with bible bangers? they must scare you, your probably feeling guilty of something.

      "Recycling and speed limits are bullshit," "They're like someone who quits smoking on his deathbed." Tyler
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        mz. said:

        Outstanding post, choco.

        Economically, I don't see much of difference between parties at this point, much like you. The social issues thing is the part that concerns me as well. Those who claim to champion freedom that get all in our (and everyone's) personal shit for whatever Biblical or "values" reason is exactly what gets me too.

        Do you have a problem with bible bangers? they must scare you, your probably feeling guilty of something.

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        @herman-m said:

        Do you have a problem with bible bangers?

        No, I have problem with idiots, like yourself.

        What position do you play on T's softball team? Catcher???

        Thanks for dropping by...

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          @choco said:

          simple fact is, he's done nothing shrub hasn't done

          That's kind of the point Choco and mz the pussy.

          And Bush was despised for it.

          fiscally, conservatives have the right idea.....too bad they spend like democrats.

          Yes. But now it's many times worse. Complain about spending and elect the guy who vows to quadruple it.

          Make sense?

          socially, you need to stay the xxxx outta my business. keep your religion to yourselves, because we dont care what you think.

          And the fact that that the president comes from a far more outspoken and hard core Christian church than G W Bush and holds the same view of gay marriage means what to you?

          WSS

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          @westside-steve said:

          And the fact that that the president comes from a far more outspoken and hard core Christian church than G W Bush and holds the same view of gay marriage means what to you?

          WSS

          It means, to me, that we still have a long way to go.

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            So we're going to work from the premise that Barack Obama is more of a conservative Christian than George W. Bush because of the church he went to?

            Really?

            Again, distinctions, Steve, distinctions. George W. Bush is a born-again Christian who takes many views that are diametrically opposed to the ones Barack Obama takes. They're two different people, as much as you'd like to point out that they both went to church so that makes them the same.

            As for gay marriage, I don't believe for a second that Obama doesn't believe in gay marriage personally, and that his opposition is pure political calculation. Nor would anyone who follows anything imagine that George Bush and Barack Obama have the same views and policies on gay rights.

            Just once, try and tell two unlike things apart instead of conflating them so as to cram them into your cartoonish world view.

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              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              Choco has joined the mz the pussy/Heck/Legacy fag club. Shame on you dummy. mz the pussy is the biggest hypocrite in here. He is a lying piece of cow shit. And you look like you might join him. Welcome aboard.

              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                Screw gay marriage, It is unnatural, and disgusting for two humans of the same sex to copulate. Even though you may enjoy it, it doesn't make it normal. You are all freaks of nature and may you all die a slow death. Peace. 😁

                "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                  I made the "fag club"????

                  Yes!!!

                  hooray.jpg

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                    I made the "fag club"????

                    Yes!!!

                    hooray.jpg

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                    @legacy-fan said:

                    I made the "fag club"????

                    Yes!!!

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                    Welcome, Leg!!!

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                    Now let us all "die a slow death" because we believe in equality!! Thanks, DieHard!!!

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                      For the next meeting of the fag club should we go bowling, or play softball?

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                        I vote for Pin the Tail on the Donkey, Spin the Bottle, or Bobbing for Apples.

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                        • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

                          Screw gay marriage, It is unnatural, and disgusting for two humans of the same sex to copulate. Even though you may enjoy it, it doesn't make it normal. You are all freaks of nature and may you all die a slow death. Peace. 😁

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                          @diehardbrownsfan said:

                          Screw gay marriage, It is unnatural, and disgusting for two humans of the same sex to copulate. Even though you may enjoy it, it doesn't make it normal. You are all freaks of nature and may you all die a slow death. Peace. 😁

                          Well said.

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                          • H heckofajobbrownie

                            So we're going to work from the premise that Barack Obama is more of a conservative Christian than George W. Bush because of the church he went to?

                            Really?

                            Again, distinctions, Steve, distinctions. George W. Bush is a born-again Christian who takes many views that are diametrically opposed to the ones Barack Obama takes. They're two different people, as much as you'd like to point out that they both went to church so that makes them the same.

                            As for gay marriage, I don't believe for a second that Obama doesn't believe in gay marriage personally, and that his opposition is pure political calculation. Nor would anyone who follows anything imagine that George Bush and Barack Obama have the same views and policies on gay rights.

                            Just once, try and tell two unlike things apart instead of conflating them so as to cram them into your cartoonish world view.

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                            @heckofajobbrownie said:

                            So we're going to work from the premise that Barack Obama is more of a conservative Christian than George W. Bush because of the church he went to?

                            Really?

                            Yeah Heck, really.

                            Of course if you say so I'm willing to accept that your boy was faking it all along to consolidate power among the, ahem, race sensitive constituents.

                            Again, distinctions, Steve, distinctions. George W. Bush is a born-again Christian who takes many views that are diametrically opposed to the ones Barack Obama takes. They're two different people, as much as you'd like to point out that they both went to church so that makes them the same.

                            Oh dear no.

                            Obama's church is much more outratgeous than Bush's.

                            As for gay marriage, I don't believe for a second that Obama doesn't believe in gay marriage personally, and that his opposition is pure political calculation. Nor would anyone who follows anything imagine that George Bush and Barack Obama have the same views and policies on gay rights.

                            So again you say Obama is lying for personal gain.

                            Could be.

                            Then again it isn't really an outlandish idea is it?

                            I'd say most Americans oppose gay marriage. I'm certainly in the minority.

                            Just once, try and tell two unlike things apart instead of conflating them so as to cram them into your cartoonish world view.

                            Just once try to apply your blind hate equally.

                            But you can't seem to.

                            Kisses

                            WSS

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                              Creepier "stereotypical" supporters...

                              Obama: Excited black folk.

                              Bush: Children speaking in tongues, touching a life size cardboard Bush.

                              No contest.

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                                Obama is more of a conservative Christian than George W. Bush. Got it.

                                Also, they have the same positions of gay rights. Got that too.

                                Thanks for clearing that up. Where would we all be without this insight?

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                                  Obama is very good president. If he ending war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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                                    Obama is more of a conservative Christian than George W. Bush. Got it.

                                    Also, they have the same positions of gay rights. Got that too.

                                    Thanks for clearing that up. Where would we all be without this insight?

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                                    Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by Legacy Fan
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                                    @heckofajobbrownie said:

                                    Obama is more of a conservative Christian than George W. Bush. Got it.

                                    Not anymore. 😉

                                    Obama to be prayer day no-show

                                    I am in agreement though, with Obama, or Gibbs, or Rahm or whomever it is that's writing today, that prayer should be a personal, private matter.

                                    I just find it amusing that Shirley Dobson is the only bureaucrat in Washington that isn't getting her calls returned. Is this Administration turning over a new leaf? 😁

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                                      Obama is more of a conservative Christian than George W. Bush. Got it.

                                      Also, they have the same positions of gay rights. Got that too.

                                      Thanks for clearing that up. Where would we all be without this insight?

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                                      @heckofajobbrownie said:

                                      Obama is more of a conservative Christian than George W. Bush. Got it.

                                      Trinity United or St John's? (But like I said I;'m willing to accept your argument that Obama's merely a power hungry liar.)

                                      Also, they have the same positions of gay rights. Got that too.

                                      Sorry. What gay rights are being denied?

                                      Thanks for clearing that up. Where would we all be without this insight?

                                      And thanks again for mischaracterizing a comment when you are unable to respond.

                                      And thanks for proving once again you're nothing more than a flack.

                                      And where would the conversation be without me?

                                      It'd be you shilling for the empty suit ad infinitum.

                                      Glad to help.

                                      WSS

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                                      • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

                                        Choco has joined the mz the pussy/Heck/Legacy fag club. Shame on you dummy. mz the pussy is the biggest hypocrite in here. He is a lying piece of cow shit. And you look like you might join him. Welcome aboard.

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                                        chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                        Choco has joined the mz the pussy/Heck/Legacy fag club. Shame on you dummy. mz the pussy is the biggest hypocrite in here. He is a lying piece of cow shit. And you look like you might join him. Welcome aboard.

                                        ok then.....unless you haven't noticed, mz the pussy and i get heated quite a bit.

                                        to be clear, i am not affiliated with either party.....i offer praise when they do something right (almost never), yet express dissent when they screw up.

                                        republicans are, by far, larger hypocrites than democrats could ever aspire to be. perhaps its the influence of the buy bull beaters.....but to preach freedom and deny it to those based on moral judgments is fairly reprehensible. look in the mirror when you decide it OK to rail on gay's....half the GOP are closet homosexuals....unless you haven't noticed. i seem to think their (ie, GOP) hopes are to ban gay marriage to remove their temptation.....you hiding something DHB?

                                        the only positive i've personally seen come from the religious right is the sexual repression forced on their children. college was a great time as a result.......

                                        im sorry you're not comfortable in your own skin.....its still no reason to deny others the right to a pursuit of happiness.......and happiness here is not just your happiness.

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                                          Another great post, choco. I really couldn't agree with you more.

                                          The problem is, there will not be any sort of measured response to your points, just, well, you know, more of the same...

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