Jimmy Garoppolo Speculation
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In all fairness no one knew what would happen with Ernie Davis, winner of the Heisman Trophy. What a tragic loss.
In all fairness no one knew what would happen with Ernie Davis, winner of the Heisman Trophy. What a tragic loss.
Saddest thing Ag, with my medical background- if then was now, 95% chance he'd have been back on the field like Eric Berry. The '60s were Stone Age compared to what we know now on how to treat blood cancers.
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In all fairness no one knew what would happen with Ernie Davis, winner of the Heisman Trophy. What a tragic loss.
Saddest thing Ag, with my medical background- if then was now, 95% chance he'd have been back on the field like Eric Berry. The '60s were Stone Age compared to what we know now on how to treat blood cancers.
Saddest thing Ag, with my medical background- if then was now, 95% chance he'd have been back on the field like Eric Berry. The '60s were Stone Age compared to what we know now on how to treat blood cancers.
Yep, my mother's older brother for whom I was named died of pneumonia at age 17 about 3-4 years before penicillin came into mass use. And his grandfather was one of the pioneering MDs who founded Texas's first med school in Galveston in 1891. He could not save him or my mother's older sister who had died many years earlier during the big Spanish flu pandemic after WW I.
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That seemed almost like a Mercy trade. Byner committed "The Fumble".....lets get him out of here so that he does not have to be stigmatized and hassled by the fan base.
Byner was shipped out after he got called for two unsportsman-like conduct penalties in a row towards the end of a playoff game. It effectively killed our final drive and we lost the game.
Actually it was Marty's fault. I was yelling at the TV, "Get him outa there!". Anyone could see that he was out of his mind. But nope, Shotty let him stay in and get the second penalty.
Byner was shipped out after he got called for two unsportsman-like conduct penalties in a row towards the end of a playoff game. It effectively killed our final drive and we lost the game.
Actually it was Marty's fault. I was yelling at the TV, "Get him outa there!". Anyone could see that he was out of his mind. But nope, Shotty let him stay in and get the second penalty.
Was that the Houston WC game? I recall that. I think that was just absolute frustration on his part after his gaffe a year earlier was still weighing heavily on him.
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Words fail to express how much I'd hate this...
2017 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take Myles Garrett, trade 4 picks to Pats for Garoppolo
by Will Brinson
Browns send:- 2017 1st round pick (No. 12 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 33 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 52 overall)
- 2018 2nd round pick (TBD, Cleveland’s original)
Patriots send:
- QB Jimmy Garoppolo
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Words fail to express how much I'd hate this...
2017 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take Myles Garrett, trade 4 picks to Pats for Garoppolo
by Will Brinson
Browns send:- 2017 1st round pick (No. 12 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 33 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 52 overall)
- 2018 2nd round pick (TBD, Cleveland’s original)
Patriots send:
- QB Jimmy Garoppolo
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Words fail to express how much I'd hate this...
2017 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take Myles Garrett, trade 4 picks to Pats for Garoppolo
by Will Brinson
Browns send:- 2017 1st round pick (No. 12 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 33 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 52 overall)
- 2018 2nd round pick (TBD, Cleveland’s original)
Patriots send:
- QB Jimmy Garoppolo
Words fail to express how much I'd hate this...
2017 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take Myles Garrett, trade 4 picks to Pats for Garoppolo
by Will Brinson
Browns send:
- 2017 1st round pick (No. 12 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 33 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 52 overall)
- 2018 2nd round pick (TBD, Clevelands original)
Patriots send:
- QB Jimmy Garoppolo
This is worse than dick cancer.
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Hard to believe this FO would give up 4 high value draft picks for anyone that inexperienced.
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Words fail to express how much I'd hate this...
2017 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take Myles Garrett, trade 4 picks to Pats for Garoppolo
by Will Brinson
Browns send:- 2017 1st round pick (No. 12 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 33 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 52 overall)
- 2018 2nd round pick (TBD, Cleveland’s original)
Patriots send:
- QB Jimmy Garoppolo
Words fail to express how much I'd hate this...
2017 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take Myles Garrett, trade 4 picks to Pats for Garoppolo
by Will Brinson
Browns send:
- 2017 1st round pick (No. 12 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 33 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 52 overall)
- 2018 2nd round pick (TBD, Cleveland’s original)
Patriots send:
- QB Jimmy Garoppolo
That guy is on crack if he thinks the Browns will give up that much for Garropolo, or if it's somehow "fair". Not even sure if Sashi would give up that much if Bill offered us Tom Brady, at this stage of his career. Must be a Patriots fan. Not as bad as the Hershel Walker trade, but close.
Another one of the lame-brain responses "those Browns have lots of picks, they're just dying to throw them away on a backup quarterback". Especially since we just "bought" a second round pick off of Houston.
EDIT: LOL, didya read some of the comments on the article? Seems my initial observation was dead on.
"Brinson is eating peyote by the handfuls. This guy is spiraling into dementia. Biggest pile of dung since Blue the Ox."
"This dude is smoking crack.........why not just throw in the Brown's next 3 1st round picks........plus "One Million Dollars"......at least try to make your article somewhat realistic"
"Lord, switch to decaf and meth is really bad for you"
"Reading that article above makes me want to hang out with Will Brinson. His drug dealers got the good stuff, no question."
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Words fail to express how much I'd hate this...
2017 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take Myles Garrett, trade 4 picks to Pats for Garoppolo
by Will Brinson
Browns send:- 2017 1st round pick (No. 12 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 33 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 52 overall)
- 2018 2nd round pick (TBD, Cleveland’s original)
Patriots send:
- QB Jimmy Garoppolo
Words fail to express how much I'd hate this...
2017 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take Myles Garrett, trade 4 picks to Pats for Garoppolo
by Will Brinson
Browns send:
- 2017 1st round pick (No. 12 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 33 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 52 overall)
- 2018 2nd round pick (TBD, Clevelands original)
Patriots send:
- QB Jimmy Garoppolo
I'm guessing at least one of those words would be fuck.
WSS
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Words fail to express how much I'd hate this...
2017 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take Myles Garrett, trade 4 picks to Pats for Garoppolo
by Will Brinson
Browns send:
- 2017 1st round pick (No. 12 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 33 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 52 overall)
- 2018 2nd round pick (TBD, Clevelands original)
Patriots send:
- QB Jimmy Garoppolo
I'm guessing at least one of those words would be fuck.
WSS
I'm guessing at least one of those words would be fuck.
WSS
Especially since every pick Tour has made so far for the Browns has been on defense.
"I got my mind right boss."-Tour
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Words fail to express how much I'd hate this...
2017 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take Myles Garrett, trade 4 picks to Pats for Garoppolo
by Will Brinson
Browns send:- 2017 1st round pick (No. 12 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 33 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 52 overall)
- 2018 2nd round pick (TBD, Cleveland’s original)
Patriots send:
- QB Jimmy Garoppolo
Words fail to express how much I'd hate this...
2017 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take Myles Garrett, trade 4 picks to Pats for Garoppolo
by Will Brinson
Browns send:
- 2017 1st round pick (No. 12 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 33 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 52 overall)
- 2018 2nd round pick (TBD, Cleveland’s original)
Patriots send:
- QB Jimmy Garoppolo
I honestly don't believe the Browns would give up this much. While I want JG, NOT at the stated cost....Brinson's NUTS!
Mike
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@boo-fagley said:
A first for Tribinski is too much.
14 games in college? That a hope and prayer choice.
It's probably too much No Doubt. But if it works it's worth everything we spent. We still have all the second round picks and there is always a diamond to be found in the second round rough.
Bigger risk to trade away everything for Jimmy who might fall flat on his ass as an NFL starter on a team that is not the New England Patriots.
WSS
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Remember this. Sure Mitch is probably the guy that's the consensus most ready to play but don't forget that because he's a Cleveland guy he will get at least one or two years longer honeymoon with the Browns.
WSS
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I think Watson may be the most ready to play tbh, more refined mechanically and all that. Though I'd argue a QB like Mitch has a higher ceiling.
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Words fail to express how much I'd hate this...
2017 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take Myles Garrett, trade 4 picks to Pats for Garoppolo
by Will Brinson
Browns send:- 2017 1st round pick (No. 12 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 33 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 52 overall)
- 2018 2nd round pick (TBD, Cleveland’s original)
Patriots send:
- QB Jimmy Garoppolo
Words fail to express how much I'd hate this...
2017 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take Myles Garrett, trade 4 picks to Pats for Garoppolo
by Will Brinson
Browns send:
- 2017 1st round pick (No. 12 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 33 overall)
- 2017 2nd round pick (No. 52 overall)
- 2018 2nd round pick (TBD, Cleveland’s original)
Patriots send:
- QB Jimmy Garoppolo
Just another mook with a computer that can sling any shit he wants.
His opinion on what it would take to make a trade is no more meaningful than PoG's opinion.
This sounds like a PoG kind of trade.
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I think that was just a takeoff from the year they traded their entire draft for Hershel Walker... and other
time when they traded all those pics for ...Ricky Williams.
Cringe worthy.
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@boo-fagley said:
Something is up for NE to have no picks in the first 2 rounds of the draft.
A deal is in place somewhere.
Possibly- but I wouldn't count on it- as I said earlier "Trading for Cooks with their #32 and more means the Patriots are all in to win the SB this season. I'm not buying that sets up the Jimmy trade to recoup the pick. The obvious reason is should Brady get hurt either for an extended period, or in the playoffs and Garropolo is on another team, that Super Bowl win goes "poof". Jacoby Brissett- that's the ticket to the Promised Land."
So you trade Jimmy, Brady gets hurt, and where does that leave you? If you want to tell me Brissette is every bit as good as Garropolo- well, that certainly tells me Jimmy isn't worth anywhere near what the media Bill butt-sniffers are making him out to be. Notice what that CBC crackhead pegged Jimmy's worth at? I seriously doubt any team in the NFL would give up a two firsts and three seconds for Brady at this point in his career- much less Garropolo.
Couple of points. The Browns FO have probably run the analytics and have a market price on what they'd be willing to pay for Garropolo. They didn't cave into Pryor's demands, though it sure could be argued he was being counted on to be part of the team come fall. I will damn guarantee you they're not going to cave to fan and media pressure to give up more than what they think a guy who's not even on their roster is worth. The only way you're going to get a haul of picks is if Sashi, DoPo, and Hue are 100% convinced Jimmy is a bonafide long term franchise qb. What Maycock and his ilk might think doesn't mean shit in Berea.
Second- All this trade rumor BS is just that- rumors. The Browns are running a pretty tight ship. No one- other than that one blogger who had a crystal ball saw the Osweiler trade coming. The Patriots trading for Cooks based on what the Browns may or may not do isn't very bright. The Browns maneuvering on what the Patriots might do- ditto. LOL, the Browns can always tell Bill "sorry, we changed our minds about Jimmy, too bad, so sad." If you don't think almost every other team in the NFL would love to stick it to the Patriots, you'd be wrong. I've pointed out- the Browns haven't even done private workouts with quarterbacks like Watson, Trubisky and Kizer. Got an explanation why the Browns would even bother wasting their time doing that if they already had a trade in the works with New England? If they see better long term potential in the new guys, they're not going to be spending multiple picks on Jimmy- for sure. Again, it's not Maycock's or Jeremiah's opinion of the 2017 qbs, the only opinion that's going to matter is the guys in Berea.
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Brock Osweiler played decently when starting for the Broncos. It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see him go to NE if/when we make the trade for JG. I'm not saying Osweiler is "amazing" or anything, but if he played well enough in Denver that they wanted him back (and they DID btw), then why can't he be a backup QB for the championship team?
It's going to happen. I'll believe it until it literally DOESN'T happen.
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@boo-fagley said:
Could be conditional on the 2018 pick where Garrapolo has to meet certain conditions.
Was listening to Jeff Schwartz (Mitch's brother) today NFL radio. He was not sure if the Browns gained the 12th pick via trade last season, if that pick 12 may not even be trade-able? If this is such a thing? Our pick at 12 maybe your player we pick than trade in deal? Who you want at 12? ( I still feel 33 & 4th is max & I believe Jeff maybe wrong on this too)
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@boo-fagley said:
Could be conditional on the 2018 pick where Garrapolo has to meet certain conditions.
Was listening to Jeff Schwartz (Mitch's brother) today NFL radio. He was not sure if the Browns gained the 12th pick via trade last season, if that pick 12 may not even be trade-able? If this is such a thing? Our pick at 12 maybe your player we pick than trade in deal? Who you want at 12? ( I still feel 33 & 4th is max & I believe Jeff maybe wrong on this too)
Was listening to Jeff Schwartz (Mitch's brother) today NFL radio. He was not sure if the Browns gained the 12th pick via trade last season, if that pick 12 may not even be trade-able? If this is such a thing? Our pick at 12 maybe your player we pick than trade in deal? Who you want at 12? ( I still feel 33 & 4th is max & I believe Jeff maybe wrong on this too)
Of course the pick is tradeable. Who do I want @ #12? Trubisky. Might even trade up some to get him.
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