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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Hmmmmmm, taking him in after all? https://dawgpounddaily.com/2017/03/22/cleveland-browns-settling-brock-osweiler-quarterback-2017/

    Wouldn't it be hilarious if he starts game 1 for the Browns and tears the league up!

    @frenchie said:

    Wouldn't it be hilarious if he starts game 1 for the Browns and tears the league up!

    Especially after all the "great" QB's the Browns have selected, they stumble upon an "NBA special".

  • What's the probability that the Browns don't select a QB in the draft if they don't trade for Garoppolo or anything else? Is it really 0%. I know Sashi said he'd be satisfied going into the season with his current roster of QB's but nobody took that seriously - right? What happens if Fournette is there at 12? Peppers at the top of Round 2? Etc. Etc. Could we have such a good draft that we just couldn't Waste a top 3 round pick on a QB? Is wait until next year completely unacceptable?

  • What's the probability that the Browns don't select a QB in the draft if they don't trade for Garoppolo or anything else? Is it really 0%. I know Sashi said he'd be satisfied going into the season with his current roster of QB's but nobody took that seriously - right? What happens if Fournette is there at 12? Peppers at the top of Round 2? Etc. Etc. Could we have such a good draft that we just couldn't Waste a top 3 round pick on a QB? Is wait until next year completely unacceptable?

    @frenchie said:

    What's the probability that the Browns don't select a QB in the draft if they don't trade for Garoppolo or anything else? Is it really 0%. I know Sashi said he'd be satisfied going into the season with his current roster of QB's but nobody took that seriously - right? What happens if Fournette is there at 12? Peppers at the top of Round 2? Etc. Etc. Could we have such a good draft that we just couldn't Waste a top 3 round pick on a QB? Is wait until next year completely unacceptable?

    A. IMO, the Garropolo trade ain't happening unless the Pats want a reasonable price for him...i.e. a mid 2d rounder.

    B. The Browns will draft a QB...though where...who knows.

    C. Fuck a bunch of Fatty Fournette. RB is not a Browns priority such that they need to use a high pick on that spot.

    D. Peppers at top of round 2 could make some sense. Browns need DB and a punt returner.

    E. If Trubisky is picked...I do not think it will be a waste at all.

    F. But, if they don't, they may still take a QB late (or get one as a UDFA)...and rely on Kessler or BO...and maybe wait for next year.

  • If Peppers is not there top of round 2, maybe USC's Adoree Jackson will be. He is a triple threat CB, PR and KO R. with very good hands/speed.

    I think Peppers is long gone by round 2 and possibly Jackson as well.

  • If Peppers is not there top of round 2, maybe USC's Adoree Jackson will be. He is a triple threat CB, PR and KO R. with very good hands/speed.

    I think Peppers is long gone by round 2 and possibly Jackson as well.

    @texasag1969 said:

    If Peppers is not there top of round 2, maybe USC's Adoree Jackson will be. He is a triple threat CB, PR and KO R. with very good hands/speed.

    I think Peppers is long gone by round 2 and possibly Jackson as well.

    Love Jackson....he's on my hit list for sure......Id take him if he's there in the 2nd......

  • So Hue today said that BO will in fact compete for the starting job.

  • So Hue today said that BO will in fact compete for the starting job.

    @topdawg31 said:

    So Hue today said that BO will in fact compete for the starting job.

    I'm down. Zero risk at the point, and absolutely no reason not to.

  • Let him play while our new rookie QB learns the ropes. At this stage, he just might be our best QB. Who needs to see anymore of captain checkdown, or Hogan? I've seen enough of the 2 yrd out.

  • So Hue today said that BO will in fact compete for the starting job.

    @topdawg31 said:

    So Hue today said that BO will in fact compete for the starting job.

    Where do you see that? I see that he said he'll be treated as a competitor until he's not on the roster anymore, which sounds more like they are waiting to get rid of him.

  • @topdawg31 said:

    So Hue today said that BO will in fact compete for the starting job.

    Where do you see that? I see that he said he'll be treated as a competitor until he's not on the roster anymore, which sounds more like they are waiting to get rid of him.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Where do you see that? I see that he said he'll be treated as a competitor until he's not on the roster anymore, which sounds more like they are waiting to get rid of him.

    Read the next paragraph

    “He is. Obviously, he’s a player on our team and we’re going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he’s not.

    “He’s a guy that’s gonna come in and compete. We haven’t had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, we’ll get a chance to know him and he’ll get to know us.”

  • Cash me outside how bow dah?

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Where do you see that? I see that he said he'll be treated as a competitor until he's not on the roster anymore, which sounds more like they are waiting to get rid of him.

    Read the next paragraph

    “He is. Obviously, he’s a player on our team and we’re going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he’s not.

    “He’s a guy that’s gonna come in and compete. We haven’t had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, we’ll get a chance to know him and he’ll get to know us.”

    @topdawg31 said:

    Read the next paragraph

    “He is. Obviously, he’s a player on our team and we’re going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he’s not."

    I'm pretty sure that translates to: "Joe told me to draft Mitch."

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Where do you see that? I see that he said he'll be treated as a competitor until he's not on the roster anymore, which sounds more like they are waiting to get rid of him.

    Read the next paragraph

    “He is. Obviously, he’s a player on our team and we’re going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he’s not.

    “He’s a guy that’s gonna come in and compete. We haven’t had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, we’ll get a chance to know him and he’ll get to know us.”

    @topdawg31 said:

    Read the next paragraph

    He is. Obviously, hes a player on our team and were going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until hes not.

    Hes a guy thats gonna come in and compete. We havent had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, well get a chance to know him and hell get to know us.

    "He's a player on our team,"

    "Until he's not."

    Dude can you read?

  • @topdawg31 said:

    Read the next paragraph

    He is. Obviously, hes a player on our team and were going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until hes not.

    Hes a guy thats gonna come in and compete. We havent had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, well get a chance to know him and hell get to know us.

    "He's a player on our team,"

    "Until he's not."

    Dude can you read?

    @wargograw said:

    "He's a player on our team,"

    "Until he's not."

    Dude can you read?

    "He's a guy that's gonna come in and compete" Dude can you read?

    By the way I think BO is garbage.

    Pessimist vs. the Optimist

  • @wargograw said:

    "He's a player on our team,"

    "Until he's not."

    Dude can you read?

    "He's a guy that's gonna come in and compete" Dude can you read?

    By the way I think BO is garbage.

    Pessimist vs. the Optimist

    @topdawg31 said:

    "He's a guy that's gonna come in and compete" Dude can you read?

    By the way I think BO is garbage.

    Pessimist vs. the Optimus

    Have you ever heard another coach refer to a QB on their team and then say "oh yeah (insert name) will compete on the team until the guy is no longer on our team"? No because they likely expected their particular QB to stick around. If BO makes it to training camp, he will be on borrowed time.

  • @topdawg31 said:

    "He's a guy that's gonna come in and compete" Dude can you read?

    By the way I think BO is garbage.

    Pessimist vs. the Optimus

    Have you ever heard another coach refer to a QB on their team and then say "oh yeah (insert name) will compete on the team until the guy is no longer on our team"? No because they likely expected their particular QB to stick around. If BO makes it to training camp, he will be on borrowed time.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Have you ever heard another coach refer to a QB on their team and then say "oh yeah (insert name) will compete on the team until the guy is no longer on our team"? No because they likely expected their particular QB to stick around. If BO makes it to training camp, he will be on borrowed time.

    If you are old enough to remember, Bill Belichick would give those kind of smug answers to every reporter that asked a stupid question. So the answer to that oh hell yeah. Again by the way BO is garbage, and sadly he is the best QB on our roster.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Have you ever heard another coach refer to a QB on their team and then say "oh yeah (insert name) will compete on the team until the guy is no longer on our team"? No because they likely expected their particular QB to stick around. If BO makes it to training camp, he will be on borrowed time.

    If you are old enough to remember, Bill Belichick would give those kind of smug answers to every reporter that asked a stupid question. So the answer to that oh hell yeah. Again by the way BO is garbage, and sadly he is the best QB on our roster.

    @topdawg31 said:

    If you are old enough to remember, Bill Belichick would give those kind of smug answers to every reporter that asked a stupid question. So the answer to that oh hell yeah. Again by the way BO is garbage, and sadly he is the best QB on our roster.

    BO is definitely hot garbage.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Where do you see that? I see that he said he'll be treated as a competitor until he's not on the roster anymore, which sounds more like they are waiting to get rid of him.

    Read the next paragraph

    “He is. Obviously, he’s a player on our team and we’re going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he’s not.

    “He’s a guy that’s gonna come in and compete. We haven’t had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, we’ll get a chance to know him and he’ll get to know us.”

    @topdawg31 said:

    Read the next paragraph

    “He is. Obviously, he’s a player on our team and we’re going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he’s not.

    “He’s a guy that’s gonna come in and compete. We haven’t had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, we’ll get a chance to know him and he’ll get to know us.”

    I guess I just don't understand these stupid rules. These guys are professionals....they get paid millions of dollars. Why are there rules that say that a boss cannot meet with him employees?

    There should be NO rules against meeting with your employees, having your employees there working out any time they want.

    Do these guys need time off? Sure? But they have all had time off since the Super Bowl ended...or in the case of the Browns, since their season ended in early January.

    So, give the guys two weeks off after the season to go soak up some sun in the Caribbean, but then after two weeks, get back in, start getting in shape. Take another week off maybe sometime here in March. Let them go on a spring break.

    Why should there be rules that give these guys 3 months off? They are not teachers, they are professional football players.

  • @topdawg31 said:

    If you are old enough to remember, Bill Belichick would give those kind of smug answers to every reporter that asked a stupid question. So the answer to that oh hell yeah. Again by the way BO is garbage, and sadly he is the best QB on our roster.

    BO is definitely hot garbage.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    BO is definitely hot garbage.

    Not sure how hot he is...

    But if not moved by the time OTAs roll around, he'll be on the field. Ditto for TC. I think that's all Hue was saying.

    As for Sashi... I think he simply made it clear that we did not acquire Brock to be our QB-of-the-future.

    Certainly nothing inconsistent in those takes.

  • Interesting breakdown of Brock's starts in Denver... by a Texans fan. Don't remember hearing this "analyst" before, but really liked him... he made some really deep dives in schemes on both sides of the ball. Good speaking voice, plain spoken and sharp graphics to boot...

    Anyway if you get past the long intro footage and his early "I think he's going to be good in Houston" you'll get to the meat of the issues he had in Denver... and eventually the causes for optimism.