Why hasn't this team embraced Osweiler?
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So Hue today said that BO will in fact compete for the starting job.
Where do you see that? I see that he said he'll be treated as a competitor until he's not on the roster anymore, which sounds more like they are waiting to get rid of him.
Where do you see that? I see that he said he'll be treated as a competitor until he's not on the roster anymore, which sounds more like they are waiting to get rid of him.
Read the next paragraph
“He is. Obviously, he’s a player on our team and we’re going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he’s not.
“He’s a guy that’s gonna come in and compete. We haven’t had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, we’ll get a chance to know him and he’ll get to know us.”
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Cash me outside how bow dah?
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Where do you see that? I see that he said he'll be treated as a competitor until he's not on the roster anymore, which sounds more like they are waiting to get rid of him.
Read the next paragraph
“He is. Obviously, he’s a player on our team and we’re going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he’s not.
“He’s a guy that’s gonna come in and compete. We haven’t had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, we’ll get a chance to know him and he’ll get to know us.”
Read the next paragraph
“He is. Obviously, he’s a player on our team and we’re going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he’s not."
I'm pretty sure that translates to: "Joe told me to draft Mitch."
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Where do you see that? I see that he said he'll be treated as a competitor until he's not on the roster anymore, which sounds more like they are waiting to get rid of him.
Read the next paragraph
“He is. Obviously, he’s a player on our team and we’re going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he’s not.
“He’s a guy that’s gonna come in and compete. We haven’t had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, we’ll get a chance to know him and he’ll get to know us.”
Read the next paragraph
He is. Obviously, hes a player on our team and were going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until hes not.
Hes a guy thats gonna come in and compete. We havent had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, well get a chance to know him and hell get to know us.
"He's a player on our team,"
"Until he's not."
Dude can you read?
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Read the next paragraph
He is. Obviously, hes a player on our team and were going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until hes not.
Hes a guy thats gonna come in and compete. We havent had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, well get a chance to know him and hell get to know us.
"He's a player on our team,"
"Until he's not."
Dude can you read?
"He's a guy that's gonna come in and compete" Dude can you read?"He's a player on our team,"
"Until he's not."
Dude can you read?
By the way I think BO is garbage.
Pessimist vs. the Optimist
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"He's a guy that's gonna come in and compete" Dude can you read?"He's a player on our team,"
"Until he's not."
Dude can you read?
By the way I think BO is garbage.
Pessimist vs. the Optimist
"He's a guy that's gonna come in and compete" Dude can you read?
By the way I think BO is garbage.
Pessimist vs. the Optimus
Have you ever heard another coach refer to a QB on their team and then say "oh yeah (insert name) will compete on the team until the guy is no longer on our team"? No because they likely expected their particular QB to stick around. If BO makes it to training camp, he will be on borrowed time.
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"He's a guy that's gonna come in and compete" Dude can you read?
By the way I think BO is garbage.
Pessimist vs. the Optimus
Have you ever heard another coach refer to a QB on their team and then say "oh yeah (insert name) will compete on the team until the guy is no longer on our team"? No because they likely expected their particular QB to stick around. If BO makes it to training camp, he will be on borrowed time.
Have you ever heard another coach refer to a QB on their team and then say "oh yeah (insert name) will compete on the team until the guy is no longer on our team"? No because they likely expected their particular QB to stick around. If BO makes it to training camp, he will be on borrowed time.
If you are old enough to remember, Bill Belichick would give those kind of smug answers to every reporter that asked a stupid question. So the answer to that oh hell yeah. Again by the way BO is garbage, and sadly he is the best QB on our roster.
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Have you ever heard another coach refer to a QB on their team and then say "oh yeah (insert name) will compete on the team until the guy is no longer on our team"? No because they likely expected their particular QB to stick around. If BO makes it to training camp, he will be on borrowed time.
If you are old enough to remember, Bill Belichick would give those kind of smug answers to every reporter that asked a stupid question. So the answer to that oh hell yeah. Again by the way BO is garbage, and sadly he is the best QB on our roster.
If you are old enough to remember, Bill Belichick would give those kind of smug answers to every reporter that asked a stupid question. So the answer to that oh hell yeah. Again by the way BO is garbage, and sadly he is the best QB on our roster.
BO is definitely hot garbage.
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Where do you see that? I see that he said he'll be treated as a competitor until he's not on the roster anymore, which sounds more like they are waiting to get rid of him.
Read the next paragraph
“He is. Obviously, he’s a player on our team and we’re going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he’s not.
“He’s a guy that’s gonna come in and compete. We haven’t had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, we’ll get a chance to know him and he’ll get to know us.”
Read the next paragraph
“He is. Obviously, he’s a player on our team and we’re going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he’s not.
“He’s a guy that’s gonna come in and compete. We haven’t had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, phase one, we’ll get a chance to know him and he’ll get to know us.”
I guess I just don't understand these stupid rules. These guys are professionals....they get paid millions of dollars. Why are there rules that say that a boss cannot meet with him employees?
There should be NO rules against meeting with your employees, having your employees there working out any time they want.
Do these guys need time off? Sure? But they have all had time off since the Super Bowl ended...or in the case of the Browns, since their season ended in early January.
So, give the guys two weeks off after the season to go soak up some sun in the Caribbean, but then after two weeks, get back in, start getting in shape. Take another week off maybe sometime here in March. Let them go on a spring break.
Why should there be rules that give these guys 3 months off? They are not teachers, they are professional football players.
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If you are old enough to remember, Bill Belichick would give those kind of smug answers to every reporter that asked a stupid question. So the answer to that oh hell yeah. Again by the way BO is garbage, and sadly he is the best QB on our roster.
BO is definitely hot garbage.
BO is definitely hot garbage.
Not sure how hot he is...
But if not moved by the time OTAs roll around, he'll be on the field. Ditto for TC. I think that's all Hue was saying.
As for Sashi... I think he simply made it clear that we did not acquire Brock to be our QB-of-the-future.
Certainly nothing inconsistent in those takes.
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Interesting breakdown of Brock's starts in Denver... by a Texans fan. Don't remember hearing this "analyst" before, but really liked him... he made some really deep dives in schemes on both sides of the ball. Good speaking voice, plain spoken and sharp graphics to boot...
Anyway if you get past the long intro footage and his early "I think he's going to be good in Houston" you'll get to the meat of the issues he had in Denver... and eventually the causes for optimism.
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To be fair, the OL Osweiler had in Denver would charitably be described as "hot garbage."
Houston's line last season was a few notches behind Cleveland's especially in passpro [Houston started the league's worst RT] which is not the optimal situation for a QB whose release is far from quick.
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Isn't that the kollman guy who made that vid of Garrett vs. can Robinson that you posted several weeks ago?
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It's been posted in another thread- our current front office is showing some signs of intelligence. We know what the market is for your talent level, and we're not overpaying. That's why Pryor is gone- overvalued himself by at least a couple million and had to sign an inferior contract with the Redskins. Schwartz wound up signing the same contract he would have gotten with the Browns elsewhere. Gabriel? No one's perfect. Belichick might be wishing he didn't unload Collins- especially if he loses Hightower to the Titans or Jets.
Seriously? Swartz was willing to come back to the Browns but Sashi pulled the contract. Sounds like Ego > Negotiating Intelligence. That hurt the team. Pryor and Sashi couldn't agree long term - so sign him for a year at $8M ($9M with incentives). But don't let him sign with Washington! We could have had two strong WR's with Coleman in the slot but it slid through Sasha's fingers. And again, that's going to hurt the team.
Oh, and we still don't have a Franchise QB.
So no, I'm not impressed with the FO so far. Please don't hang their hat on paying $16 M on a second rounder. Tell me how well that works out when Pryor makes the pro bowl next year.
First year as a WR with no QB and Pryor gains over 1000 yards and Sashi let him go? With a 1-16 record? Unacceptable! Sorry, no love here! We can't take one step forward and one step backwards!
Seriously? Swartz was willing to come back to the Browns but Sashi pulled the contract. Sounds like Ego > Negotiating Intelligence. That hurt the team.
And there's a fat guy in a red suit that flies behind reindeer in the sky every 24th of December. - Flugel
Pryor and Sashi couldn't agree long term - so sign him for a year at $8M ($9M with incentives). But don't let him sign with Washington!
Who is the only team that even gave Pryor a chance to play WR when he was unemployed? Cleveland. Now, who is the only HC that started him at WR? Hue. When the rest of the NFL seemed disinterested, so exactly how much more money did Pryor sign for in Washington than he was offered here? - Flugel
Oh, and we still don't have a Franchise QB.
While the previous regime here was staining their underwear over Justin Gilbert and Johnny Manziel - Oakland drafted Khalil Mack and Derek Carr (in round 2). Today, there's only 2 first round picks from the 2014 draft that are unemployed in the NFL: Johnny Manziel and Justin Gilbert. Let's make sure we blame Sashi for 100% of that. Last I checked, Sashi got a draft pick from Pittsburgh in exchange for Justin Gilbert (whom they cut). Seems to me, Oakland doesn't have to screw around looking for an elite edge rusher or QB any more. - Flugel
So no, I'm not impressed with the FO so far.
Nobody is asking you to be. - Flugel
Please don't hang their hat on paying $16 M on a second rounder.
Good stories never go straight from "Once upon a time" to "they lived happily ever after." - Flugel
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Who is the only team that even gave Pryor a chance to play WR when he was unemployed? Cleveland. Now, who is the only HC thatstarted him at WR? Hue. When the rest of the NFL seemed disinterested, so exactly how much more money did Pryor sign for in Washington than he was offered here? - Flugel
I would like to know the answer to that question.
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Seriously? Swartz was willing to come back to the Browns but Sashi pulled the contract. Sounds like Ego > Negotiating Intelligence. That hurt the team.
And there's a fat guy in a red suit that flies behind reindeer in the sky every 24th of December. - Flugel
Pryor and Sashi couldn't agree long term - so sign him for a year at $8M ($9M with incentives). But don't let him sign with Washington!
Who is the only team that even gave Pryor a chance to play WR when he was unemployed? Cleveland. Now, who is the only HC that started him at WR? Hue. When the rest of the NFL seemed disinterested, so exactly how much more money did Pryor sign for in Washington than he was offered here? - Flugel
Oh, and we still don't have a Franchise QB.
While the previous regime here was staining their underwear over Justin Gilbert and Johnny Manziel - Oakland drafted Khalil Mack and Derek Carr (in round 2). Today, there's only 2 first round picks from the 2014 draft that are unemployed in the NFL: Johnny Manziel and Justin Gilbert. Let's make sure we blame Sashi for 100% of that. Last I checked, Sashi got a draft pick from Pittsburgh in exchange for Justin Gilbert (whom they cut). Seems to me, Oakland doesn't have to screw around looking for an elite edge rusher or QB any more. - Flugel
So no, I'm not impressed with the FO so far.
Nobody is asking you to be. - Flugel
Please don't hang their hat on paying $16 M on a second rounder.
Good stories never go straight from "Once upon a time" to "they lived happily ever after." - Flugel
Seriously? Swartz was willing to come back to the Browns but Sashi pulled the contract. Sounds like Ego > Negotiating Intelligence. That hurt the team.
And there's a fat guy in a red suit that flies behind reindeer in the sky every 24th of December. - Flugel
Pryor and Sashi couldn't agree long term - so sign him for a year at $8M ($9M with incentives). But don't let him sign with Washington!
Who is the only team that even gave Pryor a chance to play WR when he was unemployed? Cleveland. Now, who is the only HC that started him at WR? Hue. When the rest of the NFL seemed disinterested, so exactly how much more money did Pryor sign for in Washington than he was offered here? - Flugel
Both of these comments are true.....and exactly how I felt when the deals went down......
1) player gets offer from Browns
2) player then talks to other team
3) Browns get pissed and withdraw offer
4) other team gets player
5) Browns "make their point", then have to settle for less.....
Schwartz / Pryor = nobody / Britt
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Speaking of which what's up with Crowell? Did he sign the tender offer yesterday?
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Speaking of which what's up with Crowell? Did he sign the tender offer yesterday?
Speaking of which what's up with Crowell? Did he sign the tender offer yesterday?
Nope... http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Isaiah-Crowell-did-not-sign-RFA-contract-sheet-52414012
Looks like we may be headed to our first "hold out" situation. Kinda saw that coming when we put the 2nd-round tender on him.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Who is the only team that even gave Pryor a chance to play WR when he was unemployed? Cleveland. Now, who is the only HC thatstarted him at WR? Hue. When the rest of the NFL seemed disinterested, so exactly how much more money did Pryor sign for in Washington than he was offered here? - Flugel
I would like to know the answer to that question.
Who is the only team that even gave Pryor a chance to play WR when he was unemployed? Cleveland. Now, who is the only HC thatstarted him at WR? Hue. When the rest of the NFL seemed disinterested, so exactly how much more money did Pryor sign for in Washington than he was offered here? - Flugel
I would like to know the answer to that question.
Gips, the answer is in what you cut and pasted. But I'll provide some detail.
After a very impressive preseason here as a WR in 2015, Pryor was cut right before the end of training camp. All 32 NFL teams left him unemployed for about 3 months until Cleveland re-signed him so late in the season that the coaching staff was too uncomfortable to start him. The next coaching staff started him in 2016.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Speaking of which what's up with Crowell? Did he sign the tender offer yesterday?
Nope... http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Isaiah-Crowell-did-not-sign-RFA-contract-sheet-52414012
Looks like we may be headed to our first "hold out" situation. Kinda saw that coming when we put the 2nd-round tender on him.
Nope... http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Isaiah-Crowell-did-not-sign-RFA-contract-sheet-52414012
Looks like we may be headed to our first "hold out" situation. Kinda saw that coming when we put the 2nd-round tender on him.
ARGHHHH! Soft tissue injuries usually follow these delayed contract agreements. Not to give Clevsies acid reflux here but Didn't Bosa miss about the first month of the season to a hammy pull last year?
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