The Las Vegas Raiders
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I can see it now. Browns with a halftime lead over the Raiders after Carr goes down. A 12th man QB stumbles out of Caesar's Palace to beat the Browns in overtime. Browns fire Huey, Dewey and Sushi.
I can see it now. Browns with a halftime lead over the Raiders after Carr goes down. A 12th man QB stumbles out of Caesar's Palace to beat the Browns in overtime. Browns fire Huey, Dewey and Sushi.
Or the referees getting very nervous in the 4th quarter on the bets they placed before the game at their favorite sportsbook and start going wild with the PI calls vs the opponents.
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@ghoolie said:
I got news for you. If the Raiders move to Vegas, the team won't need any California fans to "migrate". Vegas in the NFL? The marketing goldmine is beyond the imagination.
No shit, the Raiders move to Ghoolieville, I am the fuck done with this bullshit franchise.
This is exactly what Jimmy Haslam wants.. People with the same exact attitude you have , so he can get a sweetheart deal.. and move the Browns elsewhere when the stadium lease is up in 25...
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@ghoolie said:
I got news for you. If the Raiders move to Vegas, the team won't need any California fans to "migrate". Vegas in the NFL? The marketing goldmine is beyond the imagination.
No shit, the Raiders move to Ghoolieville, I am the fuck done with this bullshit franchise.
This is exactly what Jimmy Haslam wants.. People with the same exact attitude you have , so he can get a sweetheart deal.. and move the Browns elsewhere when the stadium lease is up in 25...
This is exactly what Jimmy Haslam wants......... move the Browns elsewhere when the stadium lease is up in 25...
Why?........... and where?......
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Why?........... and where?......
Believe it or not the NFL is near the saturation point, oh sure there might be a rare move like Oakland from that disgusting stadium but don't count on too many billion dollar super stadiums in the coming years.
Oh the NFL is now actively working on speeding up games, why? Well not for us old farts but it's to try and retain younger viewers which are leaving or just not that in to being a die hard lifer.
Ratings are sliding too, we'll see where that goes.
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@ghoolie said:
LMAO. Past my throwing prime, but I would fistfight any 3 NFL players back to back in 3 round fights. There isn't a player in the fucking NFL who could toss leather with me.
Ha tough talk. Myles Garrett would KO you with one punch like Joe Mixon did with the girlfriend.
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@ghoolie said:
When I stop posting, the board will die. I am the ONLY POSTER who management ever asked to return to the board because posting totals were down. Just remember that cock pus. I am here because I am the most highly read posted on the board. Like a QB, as goes Ghoolie, so goes the board.
Hey Beaver Breath, is this song about you or Vincent Van Gogh?
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Tennessee where Jimmy is from might be a place he'd go to..How does the Nashville or Tenesse Browns sound?
I like the name, Nashville Cats.
Cleveland has the Browns version 2.
It's not the Fake Browns. They are 'real Browns'. Just like the Browns fans that go to the games are 'real Browns fans'. It's just that the team has STUNK for 17 years. That has an affect on a fan base. It's new to Browns fans. The team was always pretty darned good in the 'old days'.
Here in New England, we could drive up to the stadium, buy tickets on Sunday and sit just about anywhere we wanted...in the 'old' days. But right around the time the Browns went missing the Patriots started winning superbowls. Now, it's tough to get a ticket.
It all depends upon which way the pendulum swings. Are you in a Good cycle? Or the Bad?
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Tennessee where Jimmy is from might be a place he'd go to..How does the Nashville or Tenesse Browns sound?
I like the name, Nashville Cats.
Cleveland has the Browns version 2.
It's not the Fake Browns. They are 'real Browns'. Just like the Browns fans that go to the games are 'real Browns fans'. It's just that the team has STUNK for 17 years. That has an affect on a fan base. It's new to Browns fans. The team was always pretty darned good in the 'old days'.
Here in New England, we could drive up to the stadium, buy tickets on Sunday and sit just about anywhere we wanted...in the 'old' days. But right around the time the Browns went missing the Patriots started winning superbowls. Now, it's tough to get a ticket.
It all depends upon which way the pendulum swings. Are you in a Good cycle? Or the Bad?
@ghoolie said:
<<I like the name, Nashville Cats.>>
The arena team may still have the trademark on that name, (Kats) play clean as country waterrrrrr
<<Cleveland has the Browns version 2.
It's not the Fake Browns. They are 'real Browns'.>>
Semantics. If you buy a new Indian Motorcycle, you have a Polaris, It can say Indian, but it is a Polaris. Nobody is ever going to pay vintage prices for a Polaris. It IS an Indian, but it is a "facade". So rather than say fake, let's call the existing team a facade. It is dressed up to resemble what once was. It is not unlike going to an attraction at Disneyland. For a moment, you actually believe you are in a movie scene. But it is a facade.
Players are constantly moving around these days. Modell sold the 'old' team off. Things change now-a-days. This is what the Browns are now.
I never said the fans were fake. hey are indeed authentic, albeit not well educated, and duped into believing a lie. You cannot blame Don Quixote for charging windmills and believing they were dragons. He was sincere, he was just delusional. Browns fans, like Quixote see what they want to see, regardless of reality. They are delusional.
<<It's just that the team has STUNK for 17 years. That has an affect on a fan base. It's new to Browns fans. The team was always pretty darned good in the 'old days'.>>
Unless you are 40, you do not recall the Browns being "pretty darned good". Losing is NOT new to a large percentage of Browns fans, it is not new, it is standard operating procedure.
Prolonged losing is new to the Browns fans. It takes quite some time for the results of prolonged losing to show.
<<Here in New England, we could drive up to the stadium, buy tickets on Sunday and sit just about anywhere we wanted...in the 'old' days. But right around the time the Browns went missing the Patriots started winning superbowls. Now, it's tough to get a ticket.>>
Not applicable. Absolutely not applicable. New England Fans are like Steeler fans. The Browns drew more home field fans during Nick Skorich's 3 - 11 debacle, than any of the Bradshaw era SB teams. What is happening now has far, far less to do with losing, and everything to do with having incompetent jackoffs running the team.
Goul, Patriots fans are as 'fly by night' as any others. New England is only Patriots Nation because they're winning. This is really RedSox Nation. When the Patriots suck the stands will be empty again.
<<It all depends upon which way the pendulum swings. Are you in a Good cycle? Or the Bad?>>
The Browns are the worst team in the history of the NFL. Never has a team been so totally incompetent. That's why the fans are waning, and that's why Haslam is likely to move this team one day.
Wrong. The Aint's and the Creamsicles were more incompetent the we've been. But we're workin' on it....
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Ghoolie (all 450 lbs of him) calling professional athletes uncoordinated. Love this board.
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@ghoolie said:
Garret is a football player, not a badass. Have you ever watched a football player bowl or dance? They are so fucking un-coordinated and off balance it is laugable.
Garrett could beat me at pass rushing, in a ring? Anyone here, anyone in the NFL....... I promise you, taking spar shots from the acorn is far, far, far in excess of anything some fuck tard, dimwit football player can even contemplate. A few fucking things I Know, accordin, and duckes are two of them. ANY fucking NFL player..........you find a way to set it up...........I'll fuck up whatrever NBA, NFL cunt you find that is stupid enough to step in the ring. ANY of them.
Or.....Too Tall Fuck Jones, another "Garret Type Badass"???? 5 nobody fights, then a washed up undersized journeymen named Yaqui Meneses peppered the living shit out of the dumb bastard, but got a celebrity decision.................. after that ass kicking Jones, a cunt, like Garrett, went back to playing football............. whyere the targets don't hit back.
Football players are uncoordinated ass-fucks. I'd scramble any of their fucking brains.
Uncoordinated- horseshit. Garrett might not be able to dance, but you could hit him 20 times with body shots, and he'd laugh at you. You aren't even in the same universe he occupies in physical conditioning.
Nice fantasy old guy, I'd lay off the Zaya. So give it up what you think you could do 20 or 30 years ago. I got to compete with NFL level talent- in basketball- in High School. Get back with me after you go to the gym and tell me how many times you can bench 220. My bet is zero. Know for sure I can't move that anymore. I'd damn near bet my house you can't break 5.0 flat in a 40, and probably not even 5.7 without tearing a hammie. All Garrett or any similar guy would do is run rings around your fat ass, block any punch you tried to throw- and their first punch would knock you out of the ring- wherever they landed it. LOL, or break one of your aged arms.
This is Ghoolie VS. Garrett. Ghoolie = girl. PS, it's also why I don't want Mixon.
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This looks to be a done deal so that means that you know who should be leaving us very soon to go follow his new favorite team.
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As I understand it, the Raiders 'lease" on the Oakland Coliseum has run out. Yet, the Raiders have no where to go to play until a Las Vegas Stadium is built...unless they stay right where they are.
So, if I were the City of Oakland I would say: Your rent to play here next year is $150,000,000.00 If you don't want to pay that, get the fuck out.
Where would they go then.
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As I understand it, the Raiders 'lease" on the Oakland Coliseum has run out. Yet, the Raiders have no where to go to play until a Las Vegas Stadium is built...unless they stay right where they are.
So, if I were the City of Oakland I would say: Your rent to play here next year is $150,000,000.00 If you don't want to pay that, get the fuck out.
Where would they go then.
As I understand it, the Raiders 'lease" on the Oakland Coliseum has run out. Yet, the Raiders have no where to go to play until a Las Vegas Stadium is built...unless they stay right where they are.
So, if I were the City of Oakland I would say: Your rent to play here next year is $150,000,000.00 If you don't want to pay that, get the fuck out.
Where would they go then.
i would imagine they would play at the UNLV stadium which holds about 30k and those September home games are going to be fucking miserable when its 110 degrees in Vegas.
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As I understand it, the Raiders 'lease" on the Oakland Coliseum has run out. Yet, the Raiders have no where to go to play until a Las Vegas Stadium is built...unless they stay right where they are.
So, if I were the City of Oakland I would say: Your rent to play here next year is $150,000,000.00 If you don't want to pay that, get the fuck out.
Where would they go then.
i would imagine they would play at the UNLV stadium which holds about 30k and those September home games are going to be fucking miserable when its 110 degrees in Vegas.
i would imagine they would play at the UNLV stadium which holds about 30k and those September home games are going to be fucking miserable when its 110 degrees in Vegas.
I am incorrect. Actually the Raiders lease with the Oakland Coliseum lasts two more years. They are supposed to play there in both 2017 and 2018.
Now, in the past when this happened, excluding the Browns situation, the league/team and the city agreed to a buyout. This was when the Oilers left Houston. There, just like here, the league felt that it was untenable to have the team still play in the old stadium while planning to move to to a new city. So there, they agreed that the team could move early....and the Oilers played in Memphis for two years awaiting the Nashville stadium construction. Not quite, but similar, Houston got some assurances (though no guarantees...unlike Cleveland) that it would be first in line for expansion. There the league knew with the "new Browns" coming in as the 31st team that they needed to have another team, and Houston got chosen.
In Oakland, there are no such guarantees/assurances. They will just be gone after the two years.
What I don't know is whether or not the City of Oakland can enforce "specific performance" the way Cleveland had Modell over the barrell. In his case the Browns had an additional 3 years on the lease, in Oakland it is two.
Does Oakland have that? Would they enforce it?
And what would it look like at Raiders games if they did? I mean, it could be a Hell's Angels/Black Panthers like riot scene for every game.
What would Oakland charge to let the Raiders go, so as to not have the NFL have a terrible black eye on their hands, like they were afraid of here if Modell was forced to have the Browns play in old Muni stadium?
The team's lease in Oakland runs through the 2018 season, but there is some expectation the Raiders will leave earlier than that. When the Oilers relocated to Tennessee in the mid-1990s, they were also supposed to play two more years in Houston while waiting for their stadium in Nashville to be ready. They ended up playing in Memphis for a year after Houston fans understandably abandoned the team, leaving it to play home games in a mostly empty Astrodome throughout the 1996 season.
The Raiders could play at UNLV's Sam Boyd Stadium beginning in 2018 while they wait for their custom-built stadium to be done in time for the 2020 season.
I don't think Raiders stadium would be "abandoned". I could see Raider's come there to wreak havoc.
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UNLV's Stadium This doesn't seem like it would be much better than playing in either Paul Brown Stadium in Massillon or in Fawcett Stadium in Canton, though, you know it may not be any worse than the stadium the Chargers are playing in for a while.
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UNLV's Stadium This doesn't seem like it would be much better than playing in either Paul Brown Stadium in Massillon or in Fawcett Stadium in Canton, though, you know it may not be any worse than the stadium the Chargers are playing in for a while.
This doesn't seem like it would be much better than playing in either Paul Brown Stadium in Massillon or in Fawcett Stadium in Canton, though, you know it may not be any worse than the stadium the Chargers are playing in for a while.
Those metal bleachers are going to be a great place to be sitting in September when the average temperature in Vegas is like 90 degrees. The league will have lawsuits when people die in the stands from heat stroke.
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Where Chargers will be playing:
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This doesn't seem like it would be much better than playing in either Paul Brown Stadium in Massillon or in Fawcett Stadium in Canton, though, you know it may not be any worse than the stadium the Chargers are playing in for a while.
Those metal bleachers are going to be a great place to be sitting in September when the average temperature in Vegas is like 90 degrees. The league will have lawsuits when people die in the stands from heat stroke.
Those metal bleachers are going to be a great place to be sitting in September when the average temperature in Vegas is like 90 degrees. The league will have lawsuits when people die in the stands from heat stroke.
Well, I guess they are going to be having some Thursday/Sunday/Monday night games there early in the season.
Though, is that the image they want for their prime time games? They may not care.
Awnings...like at Stubhub?
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