The Las Vegas Raiders
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Tennessee where Jimmy is from might be a place he'd go to..How does the Nashville or Tenesse Browns sound?
I like the name, Nashville Cats.
Cleveland has the Browns version 2.
It's not the Fake Browns. They are 'real Browns'. Just like the Browns fans that go to the games are 'real Browns fans'. It's just that the team has STUNK for 17 years. That has an affect on a fan base. It's new to Browns fans. The team was always pretty darned good in the 'old days'.
Here in New England, we could drive up to the stadium, buy tickets on Sunday and sit just about anywhere we wanted...in the 'old' days. But right around the time the Browns went missing the Patriots started winning superbowls. Now, it's tough to get a ticket.
It all depends upon which way the pendulum swings. Are you in a Good cycle? Or the Bad?
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Tennessee where Jimmy is from might be a place he'd go to..How does the Nashville or Tenesse Browns sound?
I like the name, Nashville Cats.
Cleveland has the Browns version 2.
It's not the Fake Browns. They are 'real Browns'. Just like the Browns fans that go to the games are 'real Browns fans'. It's just that the team has STUNK for 17 years. That has an affect on a fan base. It's new to Browns fans. The team was always pretty darned good in the 'old days'.
Here in New England, we could drive up to the stadium, buy tickets on Sunday and sit just about anywhere we wanted...in the 'old' days. But right around the time the Browns went missing the Patriots started winning superbowls. Now, it's tough to get a ticket.
It all depends upon which way the pendulum swings. Are you in a Good cycle? Or the Bad?
@ghoolie said:
<<I like the name, Nashville Cats.>>
The arena team may still have the trademark on that name, (Kats) play clean as country waterrrrrr
<<Cleveland has the Browns version 2.
It's not the Fake Browns. They are 'real Browns'.>>
Semantics. If you buy a new Indian Motorcycle, you have a Polaris, It can say Indian, but it is a Polaris. Nobody is ever going to pay vintage prices for a Polaris. It IS an Indian, but it is a "facade". So rather than say fake, let's call the existing team a facade. It is dressed up to resemble what once was. It is not unlike going to an attraction at Disneyland. For a moment, you actually believe you are in a movie scene. But it is a facade.
Players are constantly moving around these days. Modell sold the 'old' team off. Things change now-a-days. This is what the Browns are now.
I never said the fans were fake. hey are indeed authentic, albeit not well educated, and duped into believing a lie. You cannot blame Don Quixote for charging windmills and believing they were dragons. He was sincere, he was just delusional. Browns fans, like Quixote see what they want to see, regardless of reality. They are delusional.
<<It's just that the team has STUNK for 17 years. That has an affect on a fan base. It's new to Browns fans. The team was always pretty darned good in the 'old days'.>>
Unless you are 40, you do not recall the Browns being "pretty darned good". Losing is NOT new to a large percentage of Browns fans, it is not new, it is standard operating procedure.
Prolonged losing is new to the Browns fans. It takes quite some time for the results of prolonged losing to show.
<<Here in New England, we could drive up to the stadium, buy tickets on Sunday and sit just about anywhere we wanted...in the 'old' days. But right around the time the Browns went missing the Patriots started winning superbowls. Now, it's tough to get a ticket.>>
Not applicable. Absolutely not applicable. New England Fans are like Steeler fans. The Browns drew more home field fans during Nick Skorich's 3 - 11 debacle, than any of the Bradshaw era SB teams. What is happening now has far, far less to do with losing, and everything to do with having incompetent jackoffs running the team.
Goul, Patriots fans are as 'fly by night' as any others. New England is only Patriots Nation because they're winning. This is really RedSox Nation. When the Patriots suck the stands will be empty again.
<<It all depends upon which way the pendulum swings. Are you in a Good cycle? Or the Bad?>>
The Browns are the worst team in the history of the NFL. Never has a team been so totally incompetent. That's why the fans are waning, and that's why Haslam is likely to move this team one day.
Wrong. The Aint's and the Creamsicles were more incompetent the we've been. But we're workin' on it....
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Ghoolie (all 450 lbs of him) calling professional athletes uncoordinated. Love this board.
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@ghoolie said:
Garret is a football player, not a badass. Have you ever watched a football player bowl or dance? They are so fucking un-coordinated and off balance it is laugable.
Garrett could beat me at pass rushing, in a ring? Anyone here, anyone in the NFL....... I promise you, taking spar shots from the acorn is far, far, far in excess of anything some fuck tard, dimwit football player can even contemplate. A few fucking things I Know, accordin, and duckes are two of them. ANY fucking NFL player..........you find a way to set it up...........I'll fuck up whatrever NBA, NFL cunt you find that is stupid enough to step in the ring. ANY of them.
Or.....Too Tall Fuck Jones, another "Garret Type Badass"???? 5 nobody fights, then a washed up undersized journeymen named Yaqui Meneses peppered the living shit out of the dumb bastard, but got a celebrity decision.................. after that ass kicking Jones, a cunt, like Garrett, went back to playing football............. whyere the targets don't hit back.
Football players are uncoordinated ass-fucks. I'd scramble any of their fucking brains.
Uncoordinated- horseshit. Garrett might not be able to dance, but you could hit him 20 times with body shots, and he'd laugh at you. You aren't even in the same universe he occupies in physical conditioning.
Nice fantasy old guy, I'd lay off the Zaya. So give it up what you think you could do 20 or 30 years ago. I got to compete with NFL level talent- in basketball- in High School. Get back with me after you go to the gym and tell me how many times you can bench 220. My bet is zero. Know for sure I can't move that anymore. I'd damn near bet my house you can't break 5.0 flat in a 40, and probably not even 5.7 without tearing a hammie. All Garrett or any similar guy would do is run rings around your fat ass, block any punch you tried to throw- and their first punch would knock you out of the ring- wherever they landed it. LOL, or break one of your aged arms.
This is Ghoolie VS. Garrett. Ghoolie = girl. PS, it's also why I don't want Mixon.
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This looks to be a done deal so that means that you know who should be leaving us very soon to go follow his new favorite team.
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As I understand it, the Raiders 'lease" on the Oakland Coliseum has run out. Yet, the Raiders have no where to go to play until a Las Vegas Stadium is built...unless they stay right where they are.
So, if I were the City of Oakland I would say: Your rent to play here next year is $150,000,000.00 If you don't want to pay that, get the fuck out.
Where would they go then.
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As I understand it, the Raiders 'lease" on the Oakland Coliseum has run out. Yet, the Raiders have no where to go to play until a Las Vegas Stadium is built...unless they stay right where they are.
So, if I were the City of Oakland I would say: Your rent to play here next year is $150,000,000.00 If you don't want to pay that, get the fuck out.
Where would they go then.
As I understand it, the Raiders 'lease" on the Oakland Coliseum has run out. Yet, the Raiders have no where to go to play until a Las Vegas Stadium is built...unless they stay right where they are.
So, if I were the City of Oakland I would say: Your rent to play here next year is $150,000,000.00 If you don't want to pay that, get the fuck out.
Where would they go then.
i would imagine they would play at the UNLV stadium which holds about 30k and those September home games are going to be fucking miserable when its 110 degrees in Vegas.
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As I understand it, the Raiders 'lease" on the Oakland Coliseum has run out. Yet, the Raiders have no where to go to play until a Las Vegas Stadium is built...unless they stay right where they are.
So, if I were the City of Oakland I would say: Your rent to play here next year is $150,000,000.00 If you don't want to pay that, get the fuck out.
Where would they go then.
i would imagine they would play at the UNLV stadium which holds about 30k and those September home games are going to be fucking miserable when its 110 degrees in Vegas.
i would imagine they would play at the UNLV stadium which holds about 30k and those September home games are going to be fucking miserable when its 110 degrees in Vegas.
I am incorrect. Actually the Raiders lease with the Oakland Coliseum lasts two more years. They are supposed to play there in both 2017 and 2018.
Now, in the past when this happened, excluding the Browns situation, the league/team and the city agreed to a buyout. This was when the Oilers left Houston. There, just like here, the league felt that it was untenable to have the team still play in the old stadium while planning to move to to a new city. So there, they agreed that the team could move early....and the Oilers played in Memphis for two years awaiting the Nashville stadium construction. Not quite, but similar, Houston got some assurances (though no guarantees...unlike Cleveland) that it would be first in line for expansion. There the league knew with the "new Browns" coming in as the 31st team that they needed to have another team, and Houston got chosen.
In Oakland, there are no such guarantees/assurances. They will just be gone after the two years.
What I don't know is whether or not the City of Oakland can enforce "specific performance" the way Cleveland had Modell over the barrell. In his case the Browns had an additional 3 years on the lease, in Oakland it is two.
Does Oakland have that? Would they enforce it?
And what would it look like at Raiders games if they did? I mean, it could be a Hell's Angels/Black Panthers like riot scene for every game.
What would Oakland charge to let the Raiders go, so as to not have the NFL have a terrible black eye on their hands, like they were afraid of here if Modell was forced to have the Browns play in old Muni stadium?
The team's lease in Oakland runs through the 2018 season, but there is some expectation the Raiders will leave earlier than that. When the Oilers relocated to Tennessee in the mid-1990s, they were also supposed to play two more years in Houston while waiting for their stadium in Nashville to be ready. They ended up playing in Memphis for a year after Houston fans understandably abandoned the team, leaving it to play home games in a mostly empty Astrodome throughout the 1996 season.
The Raiders could play at UNLV's Sam Boyd Stadium beginning in 2018 while they wait for their custom-built stadium to be done in time for the 2020 season.
I don't think Raiders stadium would be "abandoned". I could see Raider's come there to wreak havoc.
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UNLV's Stadium This doesn't seem like it would be much better than playing in either Paul Brown Stadium in Massillon or in Fawcett Stadium in Canton, though, you know it may not be any worse than the stadium the Chargers are playing in for a while.
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UNLV's Stadium This doesn't seem like it would be much better than playing in either Paul Brown Stadium in Massillon or in Fawcett Stadium in Canton, though, you know it may not be any worse than the stadium the Chargers are playing in for a while.
This doesn't seem like it would be much better than playing in either Paul Brown Stadium in Massillon or in Fawcett Stadium in Canton, though, you know it may not be any worse than the stadium the Chargers are playing in for a while.
Those metal bleachers are going to be a great place to be sitting in September when the average temperature in Vegas is like 90 degrees. The league will have lawsuits when people die in the stands from heat stroke.
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Where Chargers will be playing:
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This doesn't seem like it would be much better than playing in either Paul Brown Stadium in Massillon or in Fawcett Stadium in Canton, though, you know it may not be any worse than the stadium the Chargers are playing in for a while.
Those metal bleachers are going to be a great place to be sitting in September when the average temperature in Vegas is like 90 degrees. The league will have lawsuits when people die in the stands from heat stroke.
Those metal bleachers are going to be a great place to be sitting in September when the average temperature in Vegas is like 90 degrees. The league will have lawsuits when people die in the stands from heat stroke.
Well, I guess they are going to be having some Thursday/Sunday/Monday night games there early in the season.
Though, is that the image they want for their prime time games? They may not care.
Awnings...like at Stubhub?
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Done deal, guys...
Owners' vote was 31-1... the one holdout was Miami.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Every cloud...
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King of the board. There must be more important things in your life than that?
You're fooling nobody with this tough guy arsehole act. The real Tom is obviously a nice guy , there's nothing wrong with that, embrace it chap
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Go Raiders.
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@ghoolie said:
Great news for Vegas, and for fans of Vegas; me being perhaps the biggest. According to reports the Raiders will open the 2019 season in Las Vegas. I have already invited Stan to attend the inaugural opener with me. It will be interesting to see where his thoughts are on this.
I welcome all the good riddance horseshit that will follow, but there are some great discussion points with this move.
"Fuck You Ghoolie, if you are a Raidiers fan why not just switch allegiance now?"
Well, wait a minute, snapper heads, it is YOU fucktards who insisted that the Browns name must stay in Cleveland, not me. You blowtards are the ones who would never accept the Baltimore Browns (Browns real name). So, hell, I am just like you sissies, I am a Vegas loyalist. Fuck the Raiders..................until that is they start fresh in Vegas.
I wonder if the Raiders fans will cry like pussies and demand that the name and colors stay in Oakland? Boo Hoo.
This is a great day for the NFL, and certainly a great day for the Ghoolmiester. Buh bye shit stains........hello Vegas.
Only pussies switch their team allegiance. and FrontRunnerAssKissers. Is that what you have become?
So, if that is the case, will that mean you will no longer patronize the Browns Board?
(or does it mean that the admins will now ban you as a troll of another team?)
Prediction: Browns win a Super Bowl before the Raiders do.
(besides...how do you know you will live long enough to even see that first Raider game in Vegas?
And no, it would surprise me if Stan would FRAK along with you. Just because he spends time in Vegas? Lots of people on this board who are Browns fans live or spend a lot of time in other cities. Z lives close to Tampa, should he become a Bucs fan? Hoorta lives in Dayton, should he become a Bengals fan? Flugel lives in Nashville, should he become a Tits fan? Tour lives near Houston, should he become a Texan fan? Ballpeen lives in Chattanooga, should he become either a Tits of Falcons fan? MarkO lives in SoCal, should he become a Chargers or Rams fan? etc. etc. etc. We got fans from the UK on here, should they switch allegiances to the Boston teams or the NY teams, simply because those are a few miles closer to the UK? (I could see a switch if the UK gets a team)
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@ghoolie said:
Great news for Vegas, and for fans of Vegas; me being perhaps the biggest. According to reports the Raiders will open the 2019 season in Las Vegas. I have already invited Stan to attend the inaugural opener with me. It will be interesting to see where his thoughts are on this.
I welcome all the good riddance horseshit that will follow, but there are some great discussion points with this move.
"Fuck You Ghoolie, if you are a Raidiers fan why not just switch allegiance now?"
Well, wait a minute, snapper heads, it is YOU fucktards who insisted that the Browns name must stay in Cleveland, not me. You blowtards are the ones who would never accept the Baltimore Browns (Browns real name). So, hell, I am just like you sissies, I am a Vegas loyalist. Fuck the Raiders..................until that is they start fresh in Vegas.
I wonder if the Raiders fans will cry like pussies and demand that the name and colors stay in Oakland? Boo Hoo.
This is a great day for the NFL, and certainly a great day for the Ghoolmiester. Buh bye shit stains........hello Vegas.
Only pussies switch their team allegiance. and FrontRunnerAssKissers. Is that what you have become?
So, if that is the case, will that mean you will no longer patronize the Browns Board?
(or does it mean that the admins will now ban you as a troll of another team?)
Prediction: Browns win a Super Bowl before the Raiders do.
(besides...how do you know you will live long enough to even see that first Raider game in Vegas?
And no, it would surprise me if Stan would FRAK along with you. Just because he spends time in Vegas? Lots of people on this board who are Browns fans live or spend a lot of time in other cities. Z lives close to Tampa, should he become a Bucs fan? Hoorta lives in Dayton, should he become a Bengals fan? Flugel lives in Nashville, should he become a Tits fan? Tour lives near Houston, should he become a Texan fan? Ballpeen lives in Chattanooga, should he become either a Tits of Falcons fan? MarkO lives in SoCal, should he become a Chargers or Rams fan? etc. etc. etc. We got fans from the UK on here, should they switch allegiances to the Boston teams or the NY teams, simply because those are a few miles closer to the UK? (I could see a switch if the UK gets a team)
So, if that is the case, will that mean you will no longer patronize the Browns Board?
(or does it mean that the admins will now ban you as a troll of another team?)
One can only hope. The king of bluster and bullshit will never leave here. He loves the attention too much. He's an attention whore and as long as he gets it, he will be here to tell us all how great he is. And if people would stop quoting is bullshit, I'd never see any of his nonsense.
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