Ted koppel nails it...
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what happened to "the buck stops with the president, HE IS RESPONSIBLE" that was the rage
during the Bush years?
"well, technically, it hasn't been proven that obamao directly ordered it to happen so...."
doesn't cut the mustard.
what happened to "the buck stops with the president, HE IS RESPONSIBLE" that was the rage
during the Bush years?
"well, technically, it hasn't been proven that obamao directly ordered it to happen so...."
doesn't cut the mustard.
because from the evidence we have so far it doesn't apply to the Obama administration. So not only did Obama not order the surveillance, if he even knew about it at all they likely told him we did it to you too, it's standard operating procedure for every incoming admin.
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whether that's right or not is another discussion, but this continued insistence that the colored boy was listening in on the switch board is getting old. It's without merit.
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I would just like to hear from Obama the reasoning behind changing the rules on intelligence gathering with an executive order just weeks before he left office that pretty much guaranteed that leaking would happen about the Trump campaign. Sure enough the leaks happened too.
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I would just like to hear from Obama the reasoning behind changing the rules on intelligence gathering with an executive order just weeks before he left office that pretty much guaranteed that leaking would happen about the Trump campaign. Sure enough the leaks happened too.
I would just like to hear from Obama the reasoning behind changing the rules on intelligence gathering with an executive order just weeks before he left office that pretty much guaranteed that leaking would happen about the Trump campaign. Sure enough the leaks happened too.
I want to hear how something that was deemed a good thing by the intelligence services and analysts on TV including over at FOX, all of a sudden now becomes a conspiracy on Obama's part? Secondly, remember when liberals were all hot about those leaks but didn't want to address the content of those leaks? Same thing happening now. You guys are upset about the leaks and not the potential collusion with the rooskies that they point to.
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Oh goody he's gone from 'everybody does it to everybody all the time' to 'shut up leave poor sweet Obama alone.'
Nice pivot.
WSS
strawman again steve...i didn't say every admin does it to the next admin. I really don't know how i can be clearer on this but here goes......it's the intelligence apparatus's listening to the administrations Steve. Did you seriously not read the whistleblowers thread? Did you not read that article or watch the interview? Go back and read that thread steve.
strawman again steve...i didn't say every admin does it to the next admin. I really don't know how i can be clearer on this but here goes......it's the intelligence apparatus's listening to the administrations Steve. Did you seriously not read the whistleblowers thread? Did you not read that article or watch the interview? Go back and read that thread steve.
Oh you boring fuck so what is it now? Nobody has ever spied on any other Administration! It could never happen it's unheard of! Especially pure and kind Obama.
Just change it to suit which way you want to whine about.
WSS
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You're arguing with people that only get their information from biased sources that the information they get is biased.
Good luck.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I would just like to hear from Obama the reasoning behind changing the rules on intelligence gathering with an executive order just weeks before he left office that pretty much guaranteed that leaking would happen about the Trump campaign. Sure enough the leaks happened too.
I want to hear how something that was deemed a good thing by the intelligence services and analysts on TV including over at FOX, all of a sudden now becomes a conspiracy on Obama's part? Secondly, remember when liberals were all hot about those leaks but didn't want to address the content of those leaks? Same thing happening now. You guys are upset about the leaks and not the potential collusion with the rooskies that they point to.
I want to hear how something that was deemed a good thing by the intelligence services and analysts on TV including over at FOX, all of a sudden now becomes a conspiracy on Obama's part? Secondly, remember when liberals were all hot about those leaks but didn't want to address the content of those leaks? Same thing happening now. You guys are upset about the leaks and not the potential collusion with the rooskies that they point to.
The most basic technique for catching a leaker is to limit the number of people who have access to the information. Widening the number of people with access only helped make sure of leaks. Obama changed these rules 8 days before leaving office. There has been zero evidence of any collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia but we do have positive evidence of felonies committed with leaking of classified information and unmasking of persons.
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You're arguing with people that only get their information from biased sources that the information they get is biased.
Good luck.
You're arguing with people that only get their information from biased sources that the information they get is biased.
Good luck.
Care to disclose the undisputed leader of unfake news?
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You're arguing with people that only get their information from biased sources that the information they get is biased.
Good luck.
You're arguing with people that only get their information from biased sources that the information they get is biased.
Good luck.
but dude they're not even sticking to what their sources are saying...this is some kind of bizarro world and quite frankly im utterly fascinated. The moonwalking around here is positively jacksonian.
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strawman again steve...i didn't say every admin does it to the next admin. I really don't know how i can be clearer on this but here goes......it's the intelligence apparatus's listening to the administrations Steve. Did you seriously not read the whistleblowers thread? Did you not read that article or watch the interview? Go back and read that thread steve.
Oh you boring fuck so what is it now? Nobody has ever spied on any other Administration! It could never happen it's unheard of! Especially pure and kind Obama.
Just change it to suit which way you want to whine about.
WSS
Oh you boring fuck so what is it now? Nobody has ever spied on any other Administration! It could never happen it's unheard of! Especially pure and kind Obama.
Just change it to suit which way you want to whine about.
WSS
what? and be clear im not whining about anything, YOU are the one constantly whining about how no matter what evidence comes out somehow the negro was spying on Trump and dammit you just know it can't nobody tell you otherwise. I'm struggling to understand what your point is anymore. My point is clear, it WASN"T the obama administration listening to Trump. The NSA whistleblower couldn't be more clear about what's going on so if you don't believe what that guy said than just say so we can all move on. But if you're gonna refer to the "whistleblower" to back up the assertion that Obama was spying on Trump.....than i think you need to go back and read again what the guy said. WHY the intelligence agencies spy on all the admins for what reason.....there's a specific one and it has nothing to do with being democrat or republican, they're listening to ALL OF THEM.
So either address the points i just made in the preceding paragraph or just drop it. Im not going to answer to another post accusing me of whining when i'm putting forth arguments made from links supplied by "you people".
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"Incidental Surveillance" Of Trump During Obama ... - Zero Hedge
www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22/nunes-trump-transition-mem...4 days ago ... The US intelligence community "incidentally" collected information on members ... on the revelation and will inform the White House later today.
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NSA To Provide "Smoking Gun" Proof Obama Spied On Trump ...
www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-23/nsa-provide-smoking-gun-pr...3 days ago ... The FBI hasn't been responsive to the House Intelligence ... described as a potential โsmoking gunโ establishing the spying. ... If true, of course, this could put a 'slight' taint Obama's claim of a "scandal free" eight years in the White House. ... in Trump Surveillance Nunes: 'We're Going to Try to Find Out' Who ...
Did Obama Spy On Trump? Sure Looks That Way | Stock News ...
www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-obama-surveil-trum...4 days ago ... The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee says that the Obama ... information about U.S. citizens involved in the Trump transition," ... spying operation against Trump directed from the Obama White House. ... simply by getting a surveillance warrant on someone they knew he was likely to talk to.
Trump wiretap claims? Well, Obama did secretly spy - Washington...
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/20/trump-wiretap-claim...Mar 20, 2017 ... Here, let me help: Because Obama's White House was tapping into ... to find out Trump wasn't placed under watch by Obama teammates and ... is this: Obama's presidency tapped into citizens' private information all the time.
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or, obamao put many lameduck federal employees all over our gov... and he didn't know
that they were his kind of people???
"Republicans always guilty and democrat leftists are always innocent"
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Those links are 4 days old, Nunes already discounted that "slant" of the story.
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