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  • @tour2ma said:

    Done deal, guys...

    Owners' vote was 31-1... the one holdout was Miami.

    Of course it passed. If it didn't then the owners wouldn't get any relocation monies.

    @orion said:

    Of course it passed. If it didn't then the owners wouldn't get any relocation monies.

    About 12 million for each team...in this case. Enough to at least pay a backup QB. Probably 10 mill after the NFL get their cut. The NFL has said it will chip in to the stadium cost, so it has to get that money from somewhere.

    In the case of the Chargers and Rams they each got about 24 million. Or maybe 20 after the NFL vig.

    That's 20+20+10....50 million, all without having to sell a ticket or a beer.

  • @orion said:

    Of course it passed. If it didn't then the owners wouldn't get any relocation monies.

    Also fills a regional void... unlike the nonsense about Jimmah moving us to Tennesee.

    @tour2ma said:

    Also fills a regional void... unlike the nonsense about Jimmah moving us to Tennesee.

    Regional void? What regional void?

    Vegas is a transient town. No real Las Vegans were clamoring for a team, as they all probably followed a team from whence they came.

  • Does Ghoolie have to buy two seats for every plane ride he takes? Getting to Vegas has gotta be expensive.

  • Does Ghoolie have to buy two seats for every plane ride he takes? Getting to Vegas has gotta be expensive.

    @wargograw said:

    Does Ghoolie have to buy two seats for every plane ride he takes? Getting to Vegas has gotta be expensive.

    Three seats, one for his accordian.

  • @mark-o said:

    One can only hope. The king of bluster and bullshit will never leave here. He loves the attention too much. He's an attention whore and as long as he gets it, he will be here to tell us all how great he is. And if people would stop quoting is bullshit, I'd never see any of his nonsense.

    Well, I just figure that if y'all let him on I will respond. I agree with him on about half of his BS....but clearly not on this subject.

    Now, if he just said: "I'm moving to Vegas, and the Raiders are moving to Vegas, so I think I will take some interest in that team", that would be fine. But he tends actually to go licking the yarbles of whatever team is his flavor of the day: Raiders, Steelers, Texas Goat Fuckers...whichever.

    😉 to the Lone Star state boys.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, I just figure that if y'all let him on I will respond. I agree with him on about half of his BS....but clearly not on this subject.

    Now, if he just said: "I'm moving to Vegas, and the Raiders are moving to Vegas, so I think I will take some interest in that team", that would be fine. But he tends actually to go licking the yarbles of whatever team is his flavor of the day: Raiders, Steelers, Texas Goat Fuckers...whichever.

    😉 to the Lone Star state boys.

    The morbidly obese trailer park dwelling welfare loving Ravens fan isn't moving any fucking place. Guarantee this fat blowhard fuck never leaves the board, either.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well, I just figure that if y'all let him on I will respond. I agree with him on about half of his BS....but clearly not on this subject.

    Now, if he just said: "I'm moving to Vegas, and the Raiders are moving to Vegas, so I think I will take some interest in that team", that would be fine. But he tends actually to go licking the yarbles of whatever team is his flavor of the day: Raiders, Steelers, Texas Goat Fuckers...whichever.

    😉 to the Lone Star state boys.

    The morbidly obese trailer park dwelling welfare loving Ravens fan isn't moving any fucking place. Guarantee this fat blowhard fuck never leaves the board, either.

    Did I miss a banning?

    @vikingdawg said:

    The morbidly obese trailer park dwelling welfare loving Ravens fan isn't moving any fucking place. Guarantee this fat blowhard fuck never leaves the board, either.

    You seem to know a lot for a guy with 14 posts...

  • i've been to vegas, besides the casino's and the ppv events....what is there? The whole state of nevada is a stupid desert. Anything decent there to look at is entirely man made. It's like a place you go to fast for 40 days and call yourself el salvador at the end.

  • Done deal, guys...

    Owners' vote was 31-1... the one holdout was Miami.

    @tour2ma said:

    Done deal, guys...

    Owners' vote was 31-1... the one holdout was Miami.

    Not too surprising. By now Oakland (for that matter so did San Diego) Knew the NFL's ground rules. Build a new stadium or we're moving. will be interesting how long the Las Vegas Gamblers last until Davis gets the wanderlust.

    @ghoolie said:

    In no particular order.

    • The "mods" do not have the authority to ban me. They never did. I come here as I see fit. I come here when I choose and I take leave when I decided. I don't know how fucking stupid you can be. Don't you cunts ever get tired of crying to the "mods"? "Ooh, Ghoolie is putting words on a message board. He keeps saying shit I don't want to hear, and it keeps coming true". "Boo hoo, Ghoolie keeps pissing in our faces, save us Hoorta, save us Zomblow" "Waaaaa, booo hooooooooo, the Browns are gonna show YOU, Ghoolie, just wait until you see what happens." " We are doing things that nobody can understand....except us fucktards who don't understand anything" Fucking morons.

    Fuck you and your fair-weather bullshit. You are rooting for a fraud. A fucking imitation. The Browns play in Baltimore and are called the Ravens. Modell was the Browns. He still is.

    Regarding why you're still here, Mr. Board Owner (& I consider him a friend) gave you an unlimited "Get out of Jail Free" card. Try to understand- that outranks what any of the Mods opinions of your posting is.

    @ghoolie said:

    But seriously, for me, understand, for me, it is heaven. A few thoughts

    • As an environmental scientist the desert is a veritable historical account of creating, chemistry and geology. It appeals greatly to that part of my brain.
    • As biker, the roads and paths are phenomenal. Nice jaunts to LA, Phoenix and more
    • As a musician, the opportunities for me to play, something I really love, are abundant like no place on earth. Tons of high end restaurants for accordion work, clubs and bars for guitar work, and, perhaps I will take up a recent invite to audition for a new Cirque show slated for 2019.
    • Clean Air, no nasty pollution, factories. No snow. No rap culture turning everything to shit.
    • Hill climbing, dune buggies, zip lines, fishing, lake meade, the Colorado River,
    • Food mecca

    The casinos and events? Icing on the cake, but not what I love most about Vegas.

    We own a 19 acre slice. To me, it is God's country. Florida? I hope it cracks off and sails out to sea. I would shit on the beach, that's about it.

    Las Vegas is in the middle of a fucking desert. It's one positive attribute is there's no bugs. If your mantra is "water is the new gold" well buy a damn clue- there's not enough water in the Colorado River to sustain unlimited growth. So get your sanitary engineering in place- just like the "Dune" novels, and figure out how to recycle toilet water that the populace will agree to. If Isis ever blew the Hoover Dam- Vegas, Henderson and a bunch of other cities would be up shit creek without a paddle. Ever drive down to Lake Meade and take a look at "Ring around the Lake" where the water level has dropped at least 15' feet if not more? Think that's an accident? You had better pray for a California once every 30 years rain event turning into a all-time snow event in the Rockies. FWIW, my neighbor across the street was a session musician in Vegas, got bored and moved back to Ohio.

    Yup, no snow and lots of 115 degree days in the summer. Take your pick. To switch a quote I heard about Wyoming. "The two prettiest sights in Nevada are Wheeler Peak- and seeing Las Vegas in your rear view mirror."

  • @ghoolie said:

    . No rap culture turning everything to shit.

    uhhh bullshiittt. And it's only going to get worse if "da raiduhz" come to town.

  • and yeah if you like 200 degree summers, i guess vegas could be cool.

  • @ghoolie said:

    LOVE the summers. Absolutely love them.

    im not hating on vegas btw, just not to live there.

  • Meh... once the "HyperLoop" is in place it'll be an easy commute from the Bay Area for games...

  • @ghoolie said:

    YAWN. Your life is exciting as Hue Jackson's playbook.

    De-Nile, as usual. My excitement is getting the hell out of that fantasy land driving up the road to Zion, Bryce or the Grand Canyon. You can't fool mother nature Tom, just go ahead and deny the Colorado River doesn't even reach the Gulf of California anymore, or 90% of the Colorado watershed flows EAST of the Rockies. Well, one of our restaurant guys loved that summer heat so much, they found him dead out in the desert on one of those glorious 115 degree days. Sure as hell, some folks like glitz, and love the allure of gambling. Now that there's Casinos in almost every state, why would you even want to spend money on a plane ticket to lose even more of it? In South Dakota, you can even play slots in gas stations. I'll be on the corner selling Aquafina to you at $10 a bottle in 5 years. I'm also a proponent of IDSA- International Dark Sky Association. You remember when God told Abraham, "look up in the sky, and count the stars if you can?" In Vegas, easy, one, two, three... ten.

    • Art Modell moved the Browns. He moved them to Baltimore. They were the Baltimore Browns and now are called the Ravens. If Modell didn't fucking move, then what exactly did Modell do to piss you cunt pimples off? Explain that to me. What exactly did Modell do?

    HE MOVED THE FUCKING TEAM.

    YOU HAD NO FUCKING TEAM FOR 5 YEARS. WHY?

    BECAUSE HE MOVED THE FUCKING TEAM

    Because just the attempt to move them was enough to piss us off. Look, if a guy shoots at you, but does not kill you does that mean you forgive him for trying to kill you?

    Hello!!

    There is no honor in being a Browns fan.

    Only to a person that has no honor to begin with. YOU apparently only place worth on a thing if it is winning. You sound like Donald Trump. But you are coming off like him. You are a being a loser with no honor...and it has nothing to do with the team you follow winning or losing.

    • Living in another city and rooting for the Browns? I do it now. So what? I am not switching allegiance because I love the Raiders...........but I WILL LOVE the Las Vegas Raiders........................... BIG BIG BIG difference. We will be moving to Vegas when the time is right, The combination of the greatest city, climate, scenery and city on Earth, with the addition of a fresh, new football team...................will be a rebirth for me.

    Well: A. it is not the "greatest city". It is simply a city that has grown beyond its mean. B. Climate? Uh, no. If you wanted the best climate you should be jumping on the bandwagon for a city back in San Diego. Searing 110 degree heat is no sane person's idea of a great climate. C. Scenery? Well, its not too bad there, but to see the good scenery you have to get out of Nevada and go a couple of hundred miles into Utah or Arizona. D. "Fresh, new football team"? No, its an old football team that has just moved. You want a fresh new team, wait for expansion.

    So, I guess I have to ask this? Which part of it is important to you: The "Las Vegas" part, or "The Raiders" part? For us, the important part of the equation is the "Cleveland". It could be Browns, Bulldogs, Gladiators, Rams, Laughing Hyenas, or whatever. The name is merely incidental to the city/region that you are a native of.

    The Cleveland Browns have one 1 NFL championship.

    Well, so much for any credibility you may have even had with your first grade teacher, you can't even count.

    The Browns have only won 1 title that I can personally remember. Maybe that is what you meant.

    Fuck you and your fair-weather bullshit. You are rooting for a fraud. A fucking imitation. The Browns play in Baltimore and are called the Ravens. Modell was the Browns. He still is.

    Digging a deeper hole. Modell was the Browns. Sure. Paul Brown and Mickey McBride had nothing to do with creating. The league thought so much of Art Modell that they decided he was too much of an icon for them and asked him to leave and forced him to sell his team.

    Maybe Steven Biscotti is the Browns...by your method of thinking.

    And fair weather? Yep, all of us just jumped ship and abandoned our team when things got tough. OOH, wait a minute...that wasn't us...that was YOU. DOH!

  • @ghoolie said:

    You are like the cocksucker who lays naked next to Jennifer Lopez and turns on Wheel Of Fortune.

    But seriously, for me, understand, for me, it is heaven. A few thoughts

    • As an environmental scientist the desert is a veritable historical account of creating, chemistry and geology. It appeals greatly to that part of my brain.
    • As biker, the roads and paths are phenomenal. Nice jaunts to LA, Phoenix and more
    • As a musician, the opportunities for me to play, something I really love, are abundant like no place on earth. Tons of high end restaurants for accordion work, clubs and bars for guitar work, and, perhaps I will take up a recent invite to audition for a new Cirque show slated for 2019.
    • Clean Air, no nasty pollution, factories. No snow. No rap culture turning everything to shit.
    • Hill climbing, dune buggies, zip lines, fishing, lake meade, the Colorado River,
    • Food mecca

    The casinos and events? Icing on the cake, but not what I love most about Vegas.

    Nothing wrong with any of this. It still does not mean you are not a FRAK.

  • Regarding why you're still here, Mr. Board Owner (& I consider him a friend) gave you an unlimited "Get out of Jail Free" card. Try to understand- that outranks what any of the Mods opinions of your posting is.

    And just because Stan is giving you a pass does not mean he is going to FRAK his way into being a Raiders fan. After all, he is the owner of The Browns Board....not "The Raiders Board".

  • A judicious ruling...

  • Las Vegas......for me, possibly the least desirable place on the planet.....glad Im not a Raider....

    .

  • @ghoolie said:

    Temporary patterns, Already on the rise.

    If you're talking about the average global temperature, you're 100% correct. If the Ross ice shelf in Antarctica collapses, cities like New York and Tampa are in big trouble. So yeah, Vegas is up high enough that won't affect you. Speaking of high temperatures, Vegas has tied it's record of 117 twice since 2005. Let's go for 120!! Um, get an A/C failure on a day like that, people are gonna die. So much for "great climate".