If it really is Hue thats pushing for Trubisky....
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Garett will have to suck for people to forget about trubisky. You can bet every sack garett gets espn will show it and then say "now lets see what mitch trubisky is up to in cleveland"........crushing
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nonsense. I can't see them drafting a qb at one, (I'm a big Trubisky fan)... when they can draft
an immediate impact defensive player that will make the rest of the division cry.
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nonsense. I can't see them drafting a qb at one, (I'm a big Trubisky fan)... when they can draft
an immediate impact defensive player that will make the rest of the division cry.
nonsense. I can't see them drafting a qb at one, (I'm a big Trubisky fan)... when they can draft
an immediate impact defensive player that will make the rest of the division cry.
It is the Browns tho remember ....31 other teams would do the right and sensible thing but we support an organization that rarely does the right thing
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nonsense. I can't see them drafting a qb at one, (I'm a big Trubisky fan)... when they can draft
an immediate impact defensive player that will make the rest of the division cry.
nonsense. I can't see them drafting a qb at one, (I'm a big Trubisky fan)... when they can draft
an immediate impact defensive player that will make the rest of the division cry.
They traded out of mack and bosa dont forget. If we had those two guys no FA qb would dare sign with a north team cause he'd have to see them twice a year
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to be fair if Trubisky goes on to be Brady NOBODY will care how many sacks Garrett gets. If both players turn out to be Elite Players then missing on Trubisky is exponentially worse than missing on Garrett. Thats just the nature of the two positions though.
To be fair itsTrubisky Elite, Garret Elite ~ Browns Miss
Trubisky Elite, Garret Bust ~ Browns Miss
Trubisky Bust, Garret Bust ~ Browns Miss
Trubisky Bust, Garret Elite ~ Browns Win
You could also make the arguement for Trubisky Good, Garret Elite ~ Browns Miss -
First, FIFY...
What makes you think Williams wouldn't quit as well? The guy who came here to work with Hue... and have the best shot at Garrett?
Who can you see possibly pushing harder for Garrett than Williams?
We dont know how much williams wants garett. Im "assuming" he's high on him but we dont know what goes on behind closed doors.
My concern with trubs at 1 is the astrinomical expectations that will be heaped on him mot just from clevrland fans but the whole league. The league will have a microscope on him moreso than usual #1's because of who the browns passed on. We'll have more or less no choice but to start trubisky right away and that already has me reaching for a strong shot of whiskey.
Trubisky and elite? no comprende...
CDS... do me a favor... put a percentage on the chance you see for each becoming "elite"...
... to start trubisky right away and that already has me reaching for a strong shot of whiskey.
Hey... as long as it's good whisky... slainte mhath...
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nonsense. I can't see them drafting a qb at one, (I'm a big Trubisky fan)... when they can draft
an immediate impact defensive player that will make the rest of the division cry.
They traded out of mack and bosa dont forget. If we had those two guys no FA qb would dare sign with a north team cause he'd have to see them twice a year
They traded out of mack and bosa dont forget. If we had those two guys no FA qb would dare sign with a north team cause he'd have to see them twice a year
It isn't "they". Different coaches, etc, did the mack thing, which was a huge mistake, then they blew the picks.
Their draft critieria was ignorant. Mack was in 2014. Hue and co. weren't here then. Last year, I didn't want Bosa anyways,
I wanted them to trade down. I like the players they got instead, and the second 1st rnd pick this year.
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And garett goes somewhere else and gets 8-9 or more sacks, and trubiskys on the bench by years end........bye hue, hi coach williams
And garett goes somewhere else and gets 8-9 or more sacks, and trubiskys on the bench by years end........bye hue, hi coach williams
Or, they draft Barnett, or Williams or some other edge rusher and perhaps they have a better year/career than Garret.
Again, while most say he seems to be the best prospect at that position, there are other quality DE's/edge rushers that are supposed to be available in this draft.
Being so Chicken Little about this is not becoming.
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After the stuff about allens shoulders came out and then he goes and puts up 225 21 times, i was out. That was the only guy whose tape was in some ways similiar to garrett. Different players i get it, but allen was the only front 4 prospect that shows tape with garett.
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Boy, the more the media and the fans proclaim Garrett as a sure fire, can't miss future HoF inductee, the more scared I get..... It reminds me of when my brother went on and on about how great of a movie Gladiator was, and then 3 mind numbing hours into it, I wanted to strangle him.
I'm having visions of Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Phil Taylor, Kam Wimbley and Suckevious Mingo all holding hands, singing "We are the busts" while they smile like the Joker, and flip us the bird.
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Relax dbone, we have a good rotation budding so he's not gonna need to do all the heavy lifting right out the gate. He'll be fine
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And garett goes somewhere else and gets 8-9 or more sacks, and trubiskys on the bench by years end........bye hue, hi coach williams
..bye hue, hi coach williams
We'll have more or less no choice but to start trubisky right away and that already has me reaching for a strong shot of whiskey.
Garett will have to suck for people to forget about trubisky.
They traded out of mack and bosa dont forget.
but allen was the only front 4 prospect that shows tape with garett.
Clev, there was never a IF on who Hue wants. It's been Garrett. regardless of what one Jet homo tweeted. Even MKC got it right. a whole lot of they ^^will disagree here
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Yeah i heard today that now it hue that wants garett. So naybe its the front office tgat wants trubs. I dunno but this is getting on my nerves. Exactly why i just wanted them to say "its garett" weeks ago.
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Or maybe they want to 49ers to believe they might pick Trubisky and want them to move up a spot to make sure that they don't. If I were the Browns, that would be best case scenario. Get some extra picks and still get Garrett.
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Yeah i heard today that now it hue that wants garett. So naybe its the front office tgat wants trubs. I dunno but this is getting on my nerves. Exactly why i just wanted them to say "its garett" weeks ago.
Yeah i heard today that now it hue that wants garett. So naybe its the front office tgat wants trubs. I dunno but this is getting on my nerves. Exactly why i just wanted them to say "its garett" weeks ago.
Standing at the very top of the board comes with many strategic gamesmanship games. With our luck it does not include a Luck or Mariota at QB
.So lets make a distraction to maybe see somebodies cards. Just before distraction Lynch at 49'ers showed interest in moving out of 2 at a price. Than the Jets twitched also. Bears are not buying any of it. All the sudden we tell the world Trib maybe off the board. The fun of this part of the season? is watch what we do. Than watch the other team forums 
It's a riot. Let's just say If 2 or more QB's come off board before #12, just think of the talent that may fall in our hands at 12..These Harvard moneyballers know a little bout playing hardball too..Hang in there, were not trading out of one. but were going to have some fun with it 
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@ghoolie said:
You pick the guy you need. If your need is a LT and you don't need anything else, you take the best LT at #1
Worst. Advice. Ever.
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Just to be Devil's Advocate here, what if the first 11 look like this? Who would you then take of the remainder @ 12 and 33? Assume that Hooker goes to the Cards if you don't take him and Mahomes is still on the board @33. Keep everyone else the same. Would you trade down from 12 and/or up from 33 for anyone?
I would trade down about 3 slots and if Barnett, McKinley and Willis are still there, I'd trade down again about 2-3 and take whichever one is left. I see them all about equal. Then I try to trade up with some of that new ammunition for BPA to around 18-20. If Miami's TE is there, take him in a NY minute. I wait on the safeties for two reasons, there are a ton in this draft and even more in next year's. Take a look at all the safeties and CBs in 2018 first round. Add Texas A&M CB convert to Safety Donovan Wilson who will be the better hitter of the two from A&M.
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Just to be Devil's Advocate here, what if the first 11 look like this? Who would you then take of the remainder @ 12 and 33? Assume that Hooker goes to the Cards if you don't take him and Mahomes is still on the board @33. Keep everyone else the same. Would you trade down from 12 and/or up from 33 for anyone?
I would trade down about 3 slots and if Barnett, McKinley and Willis are still there, I'd trade down again about 2-3 and take whichever one is left. I see them all about equal. Then I try to trade up with some of that new ammunition for BPA to around 18-20. If Miami's TE is there, take him in a NY minute. I wait on the safeties for two reasons, there are a ton in this draft and even more in next year's. Take a look at all the safeties and CBs in 2018 first round. Add Texas A&M CB convert to Safety Donovan Wilson who will be the better hitter of the two from A&M.
Just to be Devil's Advocate here, what if the first 11 look like this? Who would you then take of the remainder @ 12 and 33? Assume that Hooker goes to the Cards if you don't take him and Mahomes is still on the board @33. Keep everyone else the same. Would you trade down from 12 and/or up from 33 for anyone?
First Ag, I love how a lot of these mock guys forget a guy like CB Gareon Conley in a now passing NFL game, than try to slip them in at #39
. I truly hope our FO see's the position. Than the draft depth at such position. Your not going to find another play maker in Foster in a slimmer down pool of LB's Vs. A Hooker in a slim down field at S too. But your chances of overall depth at CB & S lasting to 33 maybe in your favor.our ammo could move us up from 33 also. The only position I look forward to see next season is always QB. It always ends with a "far to many variables to This season for both" -
nonsense. I can't see them drafting a qb at one, (I'm a big Trubisky fan)... when they can draft
an immediate impact defensive player that will make the rest of the division cry.
They traded out of mack and bosa dont forget. If we had those two guys no FA qb would dare sign with a north team cause he'd have to see them twice a year
They traded out of mack and bosa dont forget. If we had those two guys no FA qb would dare sign with a north team cause he'd have to see them twice a year
And who was the only team Cleveland beat? Bosa's Chargers, who ranked 29th in points allowed.
As I said in another thread, the only 2 first round picks from the 2014 draft that are unemployed in the NFL today are Justin Gilbert and Johnny Manziel. That major land mine came from Fanny Farmer or Farmer's Fanny...
As for the 2014 draft, which team got rewarded most for not reaching on a QB? The Raiders. Yes, the same team that was always drafting right near us until they found the right edge rusher in round 1 and QB in round 2. In essence, they let the draft fall to them.
Here's some previous QBs we've traded up for and please me at our very first BINGO here:
1970 Mike Phipps #3 overall (lost HOF WR Paul Warfield to the Dolphins destined to go undefeated in 72 when his speed over the top prevented defenses from loading the box to stop Csonka,Kiick and Morris)
2007 Brady Quinn at #22 overall (lost our 1st round pick in 2008 and didn't end up drafting until round 4 in a draft volume that netted 1 keeper Ahtyba Rubin. Meanwhile, DA became the QB that threw 29 TD passes in our 10-6 season before the shit hit the fans in 2008.
2012 Brandon Weeden at #22 was one of the picks we got in exchange for Atlanta's rights to Julio Jones in 2011.
2014 Johnny Manziel at #22 in order to give Philly our #26 and #83 overall.
Sticking with my theme of not reaching on a QB pov, the team that was rewarded best for their QB selection in 2016 was the Dallas Cowboys with Dak Prescott.
In a year where countless well paid Draft Analysts and NFL scouts have called this entire QB class a bunch of projects, the highest rated player (also making him BPA) is Myles Garrett. Meanwhile, how much difference is there from 1 QB project to the next? We'll get one of the projects to join last year's project (Kessler). How do we know a Peterman is any better than the reason (Josh Dobbs) he needed to transfer to Pitt over? Along the same line, do we really know Trubisky is any better than Josh Dobbs when he couldn't ever start over a lesser QB than Dobbs at NC? I like Trubisky but not anywhere near #1 or the need to trade up from #12. I've been wrong before though...
I've just never seen knee jerking up for a QB benefit us so can someone assure me why THIS is the year to be confident in that?
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