2017 QB Class Comparative Analysis... includes Kess...
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Reasonable conclusion...
Here are some thoughts I posted at reddit...My first reaction is that a lot of the pieces fit with what I see in the candidates. Examples:
- It does not surprise me that Trubs suffered the fewest drops as he throws very receiver-friendly balls, i.e., a lot of floaters.
- Kizer's high drop total fits my view of the declining talent around him. I've said all along you have to look at 2015 to properly evaluate him.
- Watson's batted pass total is consistent with my memory of him throwing more short crosses than the other prospects.
- Mahomes leading both the pressures and the throwaways? No surprise from the scrambling king and closest prospect to JFF V2.0... on the field.
- Watson's deep ball percentage simply belies his arm-strength/ball-velocity concern. I keep looking, but still cannot see "49 mph" on tape.
- Kess... the man knows his limitations... or at least "feels" he is limited... and thus turns down downfield throwing windows that top QBs exploit. Can he change this? TBD...
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I'd like to see Kessler start this season. He really didn't look bad considering the awful situation he was thrown into.
I also think he's been under 4 different offensive coordinators in 4 years. Having a year in the NFL, a better line, and more weapons (depending on the draft) will give him some confidence for this year.
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"Floaters" = interceptions in the NFL. And we want Trubs why?
NFL Network "Good morning football" got Garrett and then Watson @ #12. They clearly think they got the better QB than Trubs who went to babyshanny in their game of best available @ 12 for the Browns. Off the board by 12 besides Garrett & Trubs were Thomas, Allen, Fornette, Hooker. Adams, Foster, Howard, Lattimore and Conley.
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"Floaters" = interceptions in the NFL. And we want Trubs why?
NFL Network "Good morning football" got Garrett and then Watson @ #12. They clearly think they got the better QB than Trubs who went to babyshanny in their game of best available @ 12 for the Browns. Off the board by 12 besides Garrett & Trubs were Thomas, Allen, Fornette, Hooker. Adams, Foster, Howard, Lattimore and Conley.
"Floaters" = interceptions in the NFL. And we want Trubs why?
In fairness they were mostly to wide open WRs in short-pass situations... but a few's delayed arrivals made the reception more "interesting" than it otherwise might have been.
Also thought more than a couple times, "That ain't working on a cold, windy, November day by the Lake."
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"Floaters" = interceptions in the NFL. And we want Trubs why?
NFL Network "Good morning football" got Garrett and then Watson @ #12. They clearly think they got the better QB than Trubs who went to babyshanny in their game of best available @ 12 for the Browns. Off the board by 12 besides Garrett & Trubs were Thomas, Allen, Fornette, Hooker. Adams, Foster, Howard, Lattimore and Conley.
"Floaters" = interceptions in the NFL. And we want Trubs why?
NFL Network "Good morning football" got Garrett and then Watson @ #12. They clearly think they got the better QB than Trubs who went to babyshanny in their game of best available @ 12 for the Browns. Off the board by 12 besides Garrett & Trubs were Thomas, Allen, Fornette, Hooker. Adams, Foster, Howard, Lattimore and Conley.
Three Ohio State DBs in the first 11? That would be a first I suspect. Three DBs from the same school in the first round anywhere I don't suspect has ever happened.
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I've been wondering just who in the hell Mahomes reminds me of. Not only his footwork, but his running style and his throwing motion/delivery.
Vince.
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I've been wondering just who in the hell Mahomes reminds me of. Not only his footwork, but his running style and his throwing motion/delivery.
Vince.
I've been wondering just who in the hell Mahomes reminds me of. Not only his footwork, but his running style and his throwing motion/delivery.
Vince.
lol... so naturally his tape makes me think of JFF... #neveragreeonaQB...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
In terms of (a lack) field vision and bailing out of the pocket early i agree.lol... so naturally his tape makes me think of JFF... #neveragreeonaQB...
I'm saying physically speaking. His drops, the half to 3/4 delivery flick motion and the long stride for tall guys. Looks almost the same.
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... plus his movement and "a playground feel" I get watching his tape. But any similarity vibe I get ends at the chalk line... so he's got that going for him.
Meanwhile speaking of Kess' deep ball...Browns quarterback Cody Kessler focused on improving deep ball in hopes of giving himself best shot to start with competition on way
By Nate Ulrich
Beacon Journal sports writerBEREA: Cody Kessler doesn’t know if he’ll be the starting quarterback of the Browns in the fall, but he has focused this offseason on going deep in hopes of positioning himself to secure the job.
Browns coach Hue Jackson stressed last season his desire for Kessler to improve as a vertical passer. So Kessler worked this offseason in Los Angeles with private quarterbacks coach Tom House on his arm strength and deep-ball accuracy.
“I definitely spent countless hours in the weight room and out on the field and really, really emphasized pushing the ball down field and different things with my mechanics,” Kessler said Tuesday during the second day of the team’s offseason workout program. “Obviously, it has to transition when the bullets start flying, but it’s helped me out a ton, and that’s something I really worked on and had a big emphasis on.
“I continue to work on the short and intermediate game and being comfortable in the pocket moving around, as well as stepping into the throw and getting my back foot under me so you can push the ball down the field more and getting everything you have into the throw instead of falling off.”
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Another interesting piece to the above article...
So Kessler is the only quarterback left on the team with significant experience in Jackson’s offense, and he took more initiative as a leader this offseason. He trained with Browns receivers Corey Coleman, Ricardo Louis and Jordan Payton in Dallas. He met with new Browns center J.C. Tretter in California to review Jackson’s playbook.
A lot of initiative centered around Kess, but also good to see other potentially key names committing their offseason time.
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