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  • Let's go ahead and make a thread where you state who you think will be the BEST QB in this draft class, and also which will be the biggest bust.

    I'll go ahead and start:

    Best QB: Kizer.

    There's some people that you just look at them and see greatness. He is one of them.

    Biggest bust: Mahomes

    He has the most potential, but I don't see him being able to put it all together. Someone is going to pick him hoping to have their franchise guy, and be very disappointed.

    (Btw, insiders say Jets are very high on Mahomes, and might trade down and nab him in the middle of the first)

  • any of the qb's drafted in the first round will be a bust

  • trubisky will be the best but will take couple years

    watson will be this years qb bust

  • Best QB: Brad Kaaya

    Worst QB: Whichever QB is the first one drafted

  • Best: Trubisky

    Bust: Kizer-The Golden Dome Syndrome, although if he doesn't go until the 3rd round is he really a bust?

  • Best-Trubisky

    Worst-Watson

    But I like all 4 a fair amount.

  • Best: Davis Webb

    Worst: Deshaun Watson

  • no higher than the 3rd round Petterman or Dobbs I believe with time one or both will be good qb's in the league

  • I'm going with my darkhorse for best... Chad Kelly. He's got the talent. I think he's seen the bottom and has his mind right, my only hesitation is a mounting list of injuries. Every time I've come of one of the Big 3... and I've come off them all... I keep going back to Chad. So fuck it... he's it.

    Biggest Bust? Sorry to say it, but I think it's Trubs... the first of the Big 3 I loved and left. To be the biggest you have to go the highest and all signs are still pointing towards him being the first off of the board. If it's to us, then I'll pray I'm wrong, but I just don't see the brain power in this hometown boy.

  • Since I believe none of them will be above average, I guess whoever is drafted in round 1 or 2 I would consider a bust.

  • I'm going with my darkhorse for best... Chad Kelly. He's got the talent. I think he's seen the bottom and has his mind right, my only hesitation is a mounting list of injuries. Every time I've come of one of the Big 3... and I've come off them all... I keep going back to Chad. So fuck it... he's it.

    Biggest Bust? Sorry to say it, but I think it's Trubs... the first of the Big 3 I loved and left. To be the biggest you have to go the highest and all signs are still pointing towards him being the first off of the board. If it's to us, then I'll pray I'm wrong, but I just don't see the brain power in this hometown boy.

    @tour2ma said:

    I'm going with my darkhorse for best... Chad Kelly. He's got the talent. I think he's seen the bottom and has his mind right, my only hesitation is a mounting list of injuries. Every time I've come of one of the Big 3... and I've come off them all... I keep going back to Chad. So fuck it... he's it.

    Biggest Bust? Sorry to say it, but I think it's Trubs... the first of the Big 3 I loved and left. To be the biggest you have to go the highest and all signs are still pointing towards him being the first off of the board. If it's to us, then I'll pray I'm wrong, but I just don't see the brain power in this hometown boy.

    I'll bet Kelly isn't even on the Browns draft board. Call it the Manziel factor.

    And Terry Bradshaw was a Rocket Scientist. I couldn't find the 2017 Wunderlich scores. After a Saturday afternoon swilling wine with my pals, I still scored a 20 on a sample test. Sign me up for NFL QB. Many of the math questions aren't particularly hard to solve- IF you have unlimited time to do the calculations in your head, which you don't. Example- a BB team has 8 boys and 4 girls. They score 120 points a game. The Boys average 12 points a game. How many points do the girls average?

  • @tour2ma said:

    I'm going with my darkhorse for best... Chad Kelly. He's got the talent. I think he's seen the bottom and has his mind right, my only hesitation is a mounting list of injuries. Every time I've come of one of the Big 3... and I've come off them all... I keep going back to Chad. So fuck it... he's it.

    Biggest Bust? Sorry to say it, but I think it's Trubs... the first of the Big 3 I loved and left. To be the biggest you have to go the highest and all signs are still pointing towards him being the first off of the board. If it's to us, then I'll pray I'm wrong, but I just don't see the brain power in this hometown boy.

    I'll bet Kelly isn't even on the Browns draft board. Call it the Manziel factor.

    And Terry Bradshaw was a Rocket Scientist. I couldn't find the 2017 Wunderlich scores. After a Saturday afternoon swilling wine with my pals, I still scored a 20 on a sample test. Sign me up for NFL QB. Many of the math questions aren't particularly hard to solve- IF you have unlimited time to do the calculations in your head, which you don't. Example- a BB team has 8 boys and 4 girls. They score 120 points a game. The Boys average 12 points a game. How many points do the girls average?

    @hoorta said:

    I'll bet Kelly isn't even on the Browns draft board. Call it the Manziel factor.

    And Terry Bradshaw was a Rocket Scientist. I couldn't find the 2017 Wunderlich scores. After a Saturday afternoon swilling wine with my pals, I still scored a 20 on a sample test. Sign me up for NFL QB. Many of the math questions aren't particularly hard to solve- IF you have unlimited time to do the calculations in your head, which you don't. Example- a BB team has 8 boys and 4 girls. They score 120 points a game. The Boys average 12 points a game. How many points do the girls average?

    6... took about 5 seconds... but I've only had a glass and a half tonite. First bottle of Hahn Cab I've tried... not bad... kinda earthy and medium dry. Thought I'd give it a try since it's from my go to Pinot Noir's home.

    Doesn't matter if Chad's on our board or not, unless I missed a qualifier in the small print...

  • Best: Kizer

    Bust: Webb

  • Best: Kizer

    Bust: Webb

    @roycerolls said:

    Best: Kizer

    Bust: Webb

    how could Webb be called a bust when he is projected to be a 3rd round pick as far as kizer even his coach said he would suck at this level bet you were a brady fan to

  • Brady fan? I think you're mistaken.

    Kelly is an overrated coach coaching the most overrated program in the country. I'm an OSU fan who hates Notre Dame more than Michigan, but Kizer has the tools, and the brains. The opinion of a purple headed megalomaniac with a record for mismanaging QB talent means jack shit to me.

    As for Webb, I've heard multiple sources indicate that Webb will be taken before Kizer which be a lot like that time Weeden was drafted ahead of Wilson and Cousins.

  • Mahomes will be the best one, because he'll goto Arizona and have a good coach and good supporting cast.

    Bust- Kizer

  • Perhaps off the board, but

    Best: Nate Peterman

    Biggest bust: Whomever gets drafted first out of Kizer and Mahomes

    There's something about Peterman that I can't shake... Perhaps it's that this draft class looks like a bunch of duds and while Peterman doesn't have the ceiling of some of the more popular choices, I'm most confident in his ability to be a serviceably consistent starter.

    Neither Mahomes or Kizer have any idea how to get rid of the football on time. Kizer will get pounded and Mahomes scrambling will have him flipping burgers by year three.

  • reason i mentioned quinn was (also years ago before we drafted that douche) was that neither one could win a big game so i assumed that you just looked at big numbers from a crappy so called big name school

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    reason i mentioned quinn was (also years ago before we drafted that douche) was that neither one could win a big game so i assumed that you just looked at big numbers from a crappy so called big name school

    @syd said:

    reason i mentioned quinn was (also years ago before we drafted that douche) was that neither one could win a big game so i assumed that you just looked at big numbers from a crappy so called big name school

    I'm not too interested in W-L as an indicator of which QBs will make the transition to the NFL. The list of college QBs who won the biggest game of all over the past decade plus is full of names like Leinart, Young, Tebow, Flynn, McElroy, McCarron, Leak etc. Football is referred to as the ultimate team sport, and with so many moving parts it's irresponsible to put the W-L column on one person. I look for traits, can a prospect break down the play quickly and determine where the ball should go? Can a prospect deliver the ball accurately? These are the questions I need answered when evaluating quarterbacks.

    As far as physical traits go, Kizer is the prototype in this class. combined with his intelligence and understanding of the game, he's a great prospect. Kizer may not have the best release, he may have been marooned on a rat shit team with a malignant narcissist for a head coach, and he may need to work on the decisions he makes, but that doesn't mean he can't play football.

  • @syd said:

    reason i mentioned quinn was (also years ago before we drafted that douche) was that neither one could win a big game so i assumed that you just looked at big numbers from a crappy so called big name school

    I'm not too interested in W-L as an indicator of which QBs will make the transition to the NFL. The list of college QBs who won the biggest game of all over the past decade plus is full of names like Leinart, Young, Tebow, Flynn, McElroy, McCarron, Leak etc. Football is referred to as the ultimate team sport, and with so many moving parts it's irresponsible to put the W-L column on one person. I look for traits, can a prospect break down the play quickly and determine where the ball should go? Can a prospect deliver the ball accurately? These are the questions I need answered when evaluating quarterbacks.

    As far as physical traits go, Kizer is the prototype in this class. combined with his intelligence and understanding of the game, he's a great prospect. Kizer may not have the best release, he may have been marooned on a rat shit team with a malignant narcissist for a head coach, and he may need to work on the decisions he makes, but that doesn't mean he can't play football.

    @roycerolls said:

    I'm not too interested in W-L as an indicator of which QBs will make the transition to the NFL. The list of college QBs who won the biggest game of all over the past decade plus is full of names like Leinart, Young, Tebow, Flynn, McElroy, McCarron, Leak etc. Football is referred to as the ultimate team sport, and with so many moving parts it's irresponsible to put the W-L column on one person. I look for traits, can a prospect break down the play quickly and determine where the ball should go? Can a prospect deliver the ball accurately? These are the questions I need answered when evaluating quarterbacks.

    As far as physical traits go, Kizer is the prototype in this class. combined with his intelligence and understanding of the game, he's a great prospect. Kizer may not have the best release, he may have been marooned on a rat shit team with a malignant narcissist for a head coach, and he may need to work on the decisions he makes, but that doesn't mean he can't play football.

    LOL, I can play football too, not very well at my advanced age. But your defense of Kizer is duly noted. Hmmm... ya know who's the same size with a cannon arm, noted for making bad decisions? I give you Brandon Wee-done. He also carries the ND curse on his head. Unless a guy from that school is all world (and Kizer isn't) I'm taking him off my draft board.

    Now I have a low opinion of Kelly- but- Trubisky may have only played one year @ NC, but at least he didn't get benched. Deshone must have been playing stinko bad to pull off that feat.

    PS don't give me that "prototype" crap. You don't have to be 6'4" to be a great NFL qb. Like Brett Farve, Aaron Rodgers, or Drew Brees.