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Is Garret really the best DE in this draft

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  • Well, at least Sapp didn't use the word ordinary, cause we know how that worked out last time...... Trent which morphed into Johnny - Damn, couldn't have made two worse picks, even if that were object of the game.

  • I don't necessarily say I agree with Sapp but I wonder Myles is the type of kid to walk away from football should the game give him adversity.

    Physically speaking he's a fucking creature, but I've said this before - there's something on his tape that I can't put my finger on I just don't like.

  • Well if he doesnt like adversity he could have shut it down with that ankle sprain. He didnt need a pro day after the combine right? In fact that pro day was a big risk but he wanted to better his results. It kind of speaks to the kids drive

  • There is an eerie feeling to it, with everyone crowning him as the obvious #1. There's a lurking uneasiness in the pit of my stomach, but I still think he's the pick.

  • Sapp said exactly the same about Clowney. Just an old guy he wants to stay in the spotlight when others younger than he are shining.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2705273-warren-sapp-calls-myles-garrett-lazy-says-hes-not-no-1-pick-material

    From the article:

    "His analysis of the Aggies star echoes his evaluation of Jadeveon Clowney when Clowney was the consensus best player in the 2014 draft.

    "I look at [Clowney's] tape, and I don't see a guy that is playing the game with his hair on fire, making plays, running up and down the field sideline to sideline, doing all of the things," Sapp said in April 2014 (h/t the Houston Chronicle).

    Clowney batted injuries in his first two years but reached the Pro Bowl in 2016 after finishing with 52 tackles and six sacks. In January, Pro Football Focus' Sam Monson listed Clowney No. 23 among the 25 best players under the age of 25."

  • So much is made about measurables - 40 time, arm length, long jump, shuttle time, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada..... There are only two things that make the great players great, and it's their heart and brain.

    So while everyone - or at least most, like to geek out on his 'freakish physical measurables', if he doesn't have that certain something burning deep inside of him that few have, then it will all be for not.

    I'll wait a while to buy a ticket to his HoF induction ceremony.

  • I've certainly read others warning signs on this guy. Several have said he takes plays off. I believe he said no one plays hard every play. Declining interviews to me is a flag too. If he can't deal with a little adversity for an interview how does he react to a bad game? Bad local press?

  • I've certainly read others warning signs on this guy. Several have said he takes plays off. I believe he said no one plays hard every play. Declining interviews to me is a flag too. If he can't deal with a little adversity for an interview how does he react to a bad game? Bad local press?

    @jcam222 said:

    I've certainly read others warning signs on this guy. Several have said he takes plays off. I believe he said no one plays hard every play. Declining interviews to me is a flag too. If he can't deal with a little adversity for an interview how does he react to a bad game? Bad local press?

    Thats a good point to bring up. He canceled an interview apparently because of someone who had spoken poorly of him in the past (about his play I believe). It just seems to me the guys that beat the shit out of people on the field would normally be the ones to speak with someone like that and challenge their talk on record, but that may just be me.
  • Foster is the best player in this draft on the field.

  • Sorry, i heard the "exact"same bullshit about bosa last year.

  • "I just got this feeling man!!!".

    Im in no mood to watch garett go get 10 or more sacks for another defense

  • Bosa was a better player than Garrett. Not as high a ceiling, but better player.

  • Honestly i wouldnt mind taking garett this year even if we had taken bosa last year, those two would be unfair on the same front 4. However, think what we could command this year with the 1st?

  • Bosa was a better player than Garrett. Not as high a ceiling, but better player.

    @wargograw said:

    Bosa was a better player than Garrett. Not as high a ceiling, but better player.

    It'll be interesting to see how that all plays out for sure

  • my top 3 on my board

    #1 Allen

    #2 Lattimore

    #3 Garrett

    agree with Sapp elite pass rusher if you are a 4-3 team and need a rde but a one trick pony

    Solomon Thomas DE/DT Stanford was a 10 at the combine but only produced slightly above avg at Stanfordf...sort small for a dt,doesn't run an elite arc at de so I'd guess solid 5 tech with avg production

  • Hey Sapp - your rant works better if you substituted your "financial acumen" for Myles Garrett. Bankrupt MF.

  • Garrett will be a great player if and when the Browns can schedule Prairieview for just about every game. Otherwise I think Warren Sapp may be right.

  • I don't see anything wrong with cancelling interviews.

    Can get you in trouble sometimes.

  • I feel like we will shake things up and draft Trubisky.

    He will sit for a year

    We draft OJ Howard,

    Go defense the rest of the way

  • @ghoolie said:

    He is the best college DE. That doesn't mean he will be the best in the NFL.

    why ?