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    @tour2ma said:

    Mart Bryant had a role in the Steelers O, taking the top off the D, and he filled it well. He arguably outplayed his former teammate, Watkins, in 2015... and that's coming from a Sammie backer.

    Now is he a complete WR? No, but in his role he did quite well and his value to Brown was significant... as if Brown needed help...

    Josh Gordon is a complete wr? How is he a complete wr and Bryant isn't? And Bryant did more than take the top off coverage. He's insane after the catch, especially for his size. If he can stay on the straight and narrow the football world is about to find out. Haley refers to him as an alien because he's never seen an offensive player with his kind of raw athletic prowess. He just needs to stay on the field.

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    @vagitron said:

    Josh Gordon is a complete wr? How is he a complete wr and Bryant isn't? And Bryant did more than take the top off coverage. He's insane after the catch, especially for his size. If he can stay on the straight and narrow the football world is about to find out. Haley refers to him as an alien because he's never seen an offensive player with his kind of raw athletic prowess. He just needs to stay on the field.

    Did I fucking mention Gordon? (Hint: The answer is , "no.")

    But since you raised him... in 2013 he was a complete, #1 WR. Showed the whole tree. Struck fear into Defenses. And did I mention he was the undisputed #1 WR?

    In his even more brief 2014 appearance? Flashed some of the same, but at other times did not look like the same player... and we sure as hell did not have a QB with the arm to take advantage of his deep speed.

    Now? No fucking clue... I hope we get the chance to find out what he has left.

    Bryant? I don't see him week in and week out. Of what I have seen of him, and can remember... after all it has been a year... he has route holes. Plus he was a #2, a solid #2, but a #2.

    So I guess unlike you I really only know one player. Please tell me more about Josh... if pressed for time, maybe you can just scan your extensive notes and post a jpeg.

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    • VagitronV Vagitron

      @tour2ma said:

      Mart Bryant had a role in the Steelers O, taking the top off the D, and he filled it well. He arguably outplayed his former teammate, Watkins, in 2015... and that's coming from a Sammie backer.

      Now is he a complete WR? No, but in his role he did quite well and his value to Brown was significant... as if Brown needed help...

      Josh Gordon is a complete wr? How is he a complete wr and Bryant isn't? And Bryant did more than take the top off coverage. He's insane after the catch, especially for his size. If he can stay on the straight and narrow the football world is about to find out. Haley refers to him as an alien because he's never seen an offensive player with his kind of raw athletic prowess. He just needs to stay on the field.

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      @vagitron said:

      Josh Gordon is a complete wr? How is he a complete wr and Bryant isn't? And Bryant did more than take the top off coverage. He's insane after the catch, especially for his size. If he can stay on the straight and narrow the football world is about to find out. Haley refers to him as an alien because he's never seen an offensive player with his kind of raw athletic prowess. He just needs to stay on the field.

      Quit making Bryant out to be more than what he really is... a very "solid" #2 receiver.. Hes not the greatest thing since sliced brread.. Gordon blows him away by miles... I dont give a fuck how you spin it...

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        @htownbrown said:

        So why is it the Stealers just found out their dopehead fuckup WR is getting reinstated. Hello.....a guy from our team is a dopehead too. Just as dumb. Twice the talent. We don't have Antonio Brown, it's a little more important to our draft plans.

        Is this some sort of condolence? Fuck you NFL!!

        Sashi loves his WRS too! Shit!!!

        First offense Bryant handed the 4 day suspension, second offense a year...whats the problem?

        Gordon is not "twice the talent" either. Bryant who is way taller, way faster, and nearly just as heavy, would have put up as good as numbers as Gordon if he were Browns #1.

        Where your hate really centers on is that the Steelers #2 is better than the Browns #1.

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        @stinkhole said:

        First offense Bryant handed the 4 day suspension, second offense a year...whats the problem?

        Gordon is not "twice the talent" either. Bryant who is way taller, way faster, and nearly just as heavy, would have put up as good as numbers as Gordon if he were Browns #1.

        Where your hate really centers on is that the Steelers #2 is better than the Browns #1.

        Bryant no where near the talent that Gordon is (was). You must have piss up to your eyeballs to think that. Nevertheless, the point is: Bryant and Gordon have about the same number of violations....and the suspension that Gordon is now serving is NOT for a violation....but for a voluntary committment to rehab. He has served like a 3 year suspension while others get 4 games. Gordon had actually served an entire year.....applied for reinstatement.....the got another 4 games suspension just for applying!....and now he has been out a year for what is NOT a violation.

        While sure, Gordon may be a fuckup....the "punishment" he has endured has been exponentially greater than anyone else who was in similar situation.

        Bell and Bryant have both had equal numbers of violations.

        Why haven't they both been forced to miss 3 years...like Gordon.

        Explain that one.

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          Martavis Bryant has the ability to be a freak so saying that gordon is "twice as good" is ridiculous and incorrect. Gordon is good but as already mentioned he's not as tall, not as fast and he's not as dynamic after the catch. Watch some of Bryant's limited highlights. Add in the fact that he's added 20 pounds of muscle and is by his own admission in the best shape of his life. Dude is 6'4 and was just unofficially clocked running a sub 4.3 at 220 plus pounds. He's also been reinstated with conditions. It's not a full reinstatement yet.

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          @vagitron said:

          Martavis Bryant has the ability to be a freak so saying that gordon is "twice as good" is ridiculous and incorrect. Gordon is good but as already mentioned he's not as tall, not as fast and he's not as dynamic after the catch. Watch some of Bryant's limited highlights. Add in the fact that he's added 20 pounds of muscle and is by his own admission in the best shape of his life. Dude is 6'4 and was just unofficially clocked running a sub 4.3 at 220 plus pounds. He's also been reinstated with conditions. It's not a full reinstatement yet.

          In his short time, Gordon has performed "twice as good" as Bryant.

          So, if someone says he is twice as good, it is only based on performance...not on some ethereal measurements.

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            @choco said:

            Don't remember seeing Bryant breaking any NFL records...Even with a great team.

            Yinzer homers never gonna learn

            Bryant has never played a full season, nor did he play in games with a ton of garbage time. Gordon got a lot of yardage in his very good season in garbage time.

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            @vagitron said:

            Bryant has never played a full season, nor did he play in games with a ton of garbage time. Gordon got a lot of yardage in his very good season in garbage time.

            Yea, because the Browns were ahead by so much. Get real, idjit.

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              @tour2ma said:

              Mart Bryant had a role in the Steelers O, taking the top off the D, and he filled it well. He arguably outplayed his former teammate, Watkins, in 2015... and that's coming from a Sammie backer.

              Now is he a complete WR? No, but in his role he did quite well and his value to Brown was significant... as if Brown needed help...

              Josh Gordon is a complete wr? How is he a complete wr and Bryant isn't? And Bryant did more than take the top off coverage. He's insane after the catch, especially for his size. If he can stay on the straight and narrow the football world is about to find out. Haley refers to him as an alien because he's never seen an offensive player with his kind of raw athletic prowess. He just needs to stay on the field.

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              @vagitron said:

              Josh Gordon is a complete wr? How is he a complete wr and Bryant isn't? And Bryant did more than take the top off coverage. He's insane after the catch, especially for his size. If he can stay on the straight and narrow the football world is about to find out. Haley refers to him as an alien because he's never seen an offensive player with his kind of raw athletic prowess. He just needs to stay on the field.

              Gordon was not only better, more productive than Bryant, he was better, more productive than Antonio Brown.

              I mean, you can say that Gomer Pyle was a better soldier than Sargent York and Audie Murphy...because he was bigger/taller/stronger/faster......but how many kills and captures did York and Murphy have compared to Gomer Pyle?

              Production.

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                htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                You stupid fucking Stooler trolls. Gordon has never had a decent QB. Gordon has never had anyone to pull coverage away from him. Everyone knew he was the offense and couldn't stop him.

                If there was no Bell, no Brown, no Rapist who the fuck would Bryant be? Less than what his slightly above average ass is right now.

                Notice how 'amazing' Wallace was when he left?

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                  Martavis Bryant has the ability to be a freak so saying that gordon is "twice as good" is ridiculous and incorrect. Gordon is good but as already mentioned he's not as tall, not as fast and he's not as dynamic after the catch. Watch some of Bryant's limited highlights. Add in the fact that he's added 20 pounds of muscle and is by his own admission in the best shape of his life. Dude is 6'4 and was just unofficially clocked running a sub 4.3 at 220 plus pounds. He's also been reinstated with conditions. It's not a full reinstatement yet.

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                  runyon27R runyon27 wrote on last edited by
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                  @vagitron said:

                  Martavis Bryant has the ability to be a freak so saying that gordon is "twice as good" is ridiculous and incorrect. Gordon is good but as already mentioned he's not as tall, not as fast and he's not as dynamic after the catch. Watch some of Bryant's limited highlights. Add in the fact that he's added 20 pounds of muscle and is by his own admission in the best shape of his life. Dude is 6'4 and was just unofficially clocked running a sub 4.3 at 220 plus pounds. He's also been reinstated with conditions. It's not a full reinstatement yet.

                  This statement is dumb. Who the hell cares if he is taller or faster or whatever. What counts is what you do on the field. From what has occurred on the field Gordon is a far better WR, maybe Bryant will show at some point he is equal or better. But as of right now Bryant's production is nothing compared to Gordon. Sad thing is Gordon may never play again because of self inflicted problems. Maybe Bryant has learned his lesson will see. BTW during 2013 I believe Gordon lead the NFL in receiving yards while only playing 14 games, when Bryant equals that then we can talk.

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                    @vagitron said:

                    Martavis Bryant has the ability to be a freak so saying that gordon is "twice as good" is ridiculous and incorrect. Gordon is good but as already mentioned he's not as tall, not as fast and he's not as dynamic after the catch. Watch some of Bryant's limited highlights. Add in the fact that he's added 20 pounds of muscle and is by his own admission in the best shape of his life. Dude is 6'4 and was just unofficially clocked running a sub 4.3 at 220 plus pounds. He's also been reinstated with conditions. It's not a full reinstatement yet.

                    This statement is dumb. Who the hell cares if he is taller or faster or whatever. What counts is what you do on the field. From what has occurred on the field Gordon is a far better WR, maybe Bryant will show at some point he is equal or better. But as of right now Bryant's production is nothing compared to Gordon. Sad thing is Gordon may never play again because of self inflicted problems. Maybe Bryant has learned his lesson will see. BTW during 2013 I believe Gordon lead the NFL in receiving yards while only playing 14 games, when Bryant equals that then we can talk.

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                    @runyon27 said:

                    This statement is dumb. Who the hell cares if he is taller or faster or whatever. What counts is what you do on the field. From what has occurred on the field Gordon is a far better WR, maybe Bryant will show at some point he is equal or better. But as of right now Bryant's production is nothing compared to Gordon. Sad thing is Gordon may never play again because of self inflicted problems. Maybe Bryant has learned his lesson will see. BTW during 2013 I believe Gordon lead the NFL in receiving yards while only playing 14 games, when Bryant equals that then we can talk.

                    Yes, but the majority of those yards came in "garbage time" lol
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                      @runyon27 said:

                      This statement is dumb. Who the hell cares if he is taller or faster or whatever. What counts is what you do on the field. From what has occurred on the field Gordon is a far better WR, maybe Bryant will show at some point he is equal or better. But as of right now Bryant's production is nothing compared to Gordon. Sad thing is Gordon may never play again because of self inflicted problems. Maybe Bryant has learned his lesson will see. BTW during 2013 I believe Gordon lead the NFL in receiving yards while only playing 14 games, when Bryant equals that then we can talk.

                      Yes, but the majority of those yards came in "garbage time" lol
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                      @comeonman said:

                      Yes, but the majority of those yards came in "garbage time" lol

                      They did when the browns were getting dusted and the opposing team was playing soft d. You can look it up.

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                        @runyon27 said:

                        This statement is dumb. Who the hell cares if he is taller or faster or whatever. What counts is what you do on the field. From what has occurred on the field Gordon is a far better WR, maybe Bryant will show at some point he is equal or better. But as of right now Bryant's production is nothing compared to Gordon. Sad thing is Gordon may never play again because of self inflicted problems. Maybe Bryant has learned his lesson will see. BTW during 2013 I believe Gordon lead the NFL in receiving yards while only playing 14 games, when Bryant equals that then we can talk.

                        Yes, but the majority of those yards came in "garbage time" lol
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                        StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by StinkHole
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                        @comeonman said:

                        Yes, but the majority of those yards came in "garbage time" lol

                        I've also heard that, but from Browns fans. Grossi was one of them I believe.

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                          You stupid fucking Stooler trolls. Gordon has never had a decent QB. Gordon has never had anyone to pull coverage away from him. Everyone knew he was the offense and couldn't stop him.

                          If there was no Bell, no Brown, no Rapist who the fuck would Bryant be? Less than what his slightly above average ass is right now.

                          Notice how 'amazing' Wallace was when he left?

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                          StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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                          @htownbrown said:

                          You stupid fucking Stooler trolls. Gordon has never had a decent QB. Gordon has never had anyone to pull coverage away from him. Everyone knew he was the offense and couldn't stop him.

                          If there was no Bell, no Brown, no Rapist who the fuck would Bryant be? Less than what his slightly above average ass is right now.

                          Notice how 'amazing' Wallace was when he left?

                          Um... I clearly stated that if Bryant were a Brown he would have compiled the same numbers as Gordon did that year.

                          To say Gordon is twice as good as Bryant is stupid.

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                            @vagitron said:

                            Martavis Bryant has the ability to be a freak so saying that gordon is "twice as good" is ridiculous and incorrect. Gordon is good but as already mentioned he's not as tall, not as fast and he's not as dynamic after the catch. Watch some of Bryant's limited highlights. Add in the fact that he's added 20 pounds of muscle and is by his own admission in the best shape of his life. Dude is 6'4 and was just unofficially clocked running a sub 4.3 at 220 plus pounds. He's also been reinstated with conditions. It's not a full reinstatement yet.

                            This statement is dumb. Who the hell cares if he is taller or faster or whatever. What counts is what you do on the field. From what has occurred on the field Gordon is a far better WR, maybe Bryant will show at some point he is equal or better. But as of right now Bryant's production is nothing compared to Gordon. Sad thing is Gordon may never play again because of self inflicted problems. Maybe Bryant has learned his lesson will see. BTW during 2013 I believe Gordon lead the NFL in receiving yards while only playing 14 games, when Bryant equals that then we can talk.

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                            StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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                            @runyon27 said:

                            This statement is dumb. Who the hell cares if he is taller or faster or whatever. What counts is what you do on the field. From what has occurred on the field Gordon is a far better WR,

                            What counts is what you do on the field? Ok, then please elaborate.

                            A player theoretically needs only one game to prove what he can do on the field. What can Gordon do that Bryant cant?

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                              @runyon27 said:

                              This statement is dumb. Who the hell cares if he is taller or faster or whatever. What counts is what you do on the field. From what has occurred on the field Gordon is a far better WR,

                              What counts is what you do on the field? Ok, then please elaborate.

                              A player theoretically needs only one game to prove what he can do on the field. What can Gordon do that Bryant cant?

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                              @stinkhole said:

                              What can Gordon do that Bryant cant?

                              How about 800 yards and 5 TD's in 4 games......with 3 different(shitty) QB's throwing him the ball?.

                              Has Bryant even done that with a whole season and future HOF QB?.....

                              (Just a rhetorical question....I already know the answer)....

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                                @stinkhole said:

                                What can Gordon do that Bryant cant?

                                How about 800 yards and 5 TD's in 4 games......with 3 different(shitty) QB's throwing him the ball?.

                                Has Bryant even done that with a whole season and future HOF QB?.....

                                (Just a rhetorical question....I already know the answer)....

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                                @mudfly said:

                                How about 800 yards and 5 TD's in 4 games......with 3 different(shitty) QB's throwing him the ball?.

                                Has Bryant even done that with a whole season and future HOF QB?.....

                                (Just a rhetorical question....I already know the answer)....

                                Those are statistics.

                                I took Cameos statement to mean that Gordon has better tools or greater physical attributes.

                                Again, what can Gordon do that Bryant can't?

                                I never saw Gordon catch a ball behind his legs while doing a forward somersault!

                                Gordon played in more games,35... Bryant only 22 never playing a full season.. But Bryant had the better QB.

                                There is no argument there.

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                                  @stinkhole said:

                                  What can Gordon do that Bryant cant?

                                  How about 800 yards and 5 TD's in 4 games......with 3 different(shitty) QB's throwing him the ball?.

                                  Has Bryant even done that with a whole season and future HOF QB?.....

                                  (Just a rhetorical question....I already know the answer)....

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                                  VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by Vagitron
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                                  @mudfly said:

                                  How about 800 yards and 5 TD's in 4 games......with 3 different(shitty) QB's throwing him the ball?.

                                  Has Bryant even done that with a whole season and future HOF QB?.....

                                  (Just a rhetorical question....I already know the answer)....

                                  Bryant hasn't played a full season, he's played quite a few games with Landry Jones under center and Mike Vick. Gordon is good, no doubt about it. It's really not fair to even compare the two because of such a limited body of work but they will be tied together for a while because of their propensity to fuck up off the field.

                                  Bryant is a freak of nature, really. His ability after the catch at his size is remarkable and he's insane fast. Antonio Brown is an animal but some of that is his relentless work ethic, if Bryant can channel any of that he's going to be damn near unstoppable and I'd say that if he were a Cleveland brown, watch some of his after the catch high lights. He moves like brown at 6'4 and he's faster.

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                                    @choco said:

                                    Don't remember seeing Bryant breaking any NFL records...Even with a great team.

                                    Yinzer homers never gonna learn

                                    Bryant has never played a full season, nor did he play in games with a ton of garbage time. Gordon got a lot of yardage in his very good season in garbage time.

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                                    @vagitron said:

                                    Bryant has never played a full season, nor did he play in games with a ton of garbage time. Gordon got a lot of yardage in his very good season in garbage time.

                                    Blah blah blah...

                                    Homer says Inferior player is awesome...

                                    Lemme know hen MB does anything of note...Like, etch his name in the Halls.

                                    Franchise qb, nothing

                                    Pathetic franchise, receive broke records. Come talk to me when he does some thing of note.

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                                      @vagitron said:

                                      Bryant has never played a full season, nor did he play in games with a ton of garbage time. Gordon got a lot of yardage in his very good season in garbage time.

                                      Blah blah blah...

                                      Homer says Inferior player is awesome...

                                      Lemme know hen MB does anything of note...Like, etch his name in the Halls.

                                      Franchise qb, nothing

                                      Pathetic franchise, receive broke records. Come talk to me when he does some thing of note.

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                                      VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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                                      @choco said:

                                      Blah blah blah...

                                      Homer says Inferior player is awesome...

                                      Lemme know hen MB does anything of note...Like, etch his name in the Halls.

                                      Franchise qb, nothing

                                      Pathetic franchise, receive broke records. Come talk to me when he does some thing of note.

                                      Cool. Assuming he stays healthy and on the field I will check back with you at the end of the upcoming season.

                                      Although he set a record for touchdowns his rookie year for the first four games. He caught 6 TD's.

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                                        @choco said:

                                        Blah blah blah...

                                        Homer says Inferior player is awesome...

                                        Lemme know hen MB does anything of note...Like, etch his name in the Halls.

                                        Franchise qb, nothing

                                        Pathetic franchise, receive broke records. Come talk to me when he does some thing of note.

                                        Cool. Assuming he stays healthy and on the field I will check back with you at the end of the upcoming season.

                                        Although he set a record for touchdowns his rookie year for the first four games. He caught 6 TD's.

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                                        @vagitron said:

                                        Cool. Assuming he stays healthy and on the field I will check back with you at the end of the upcoming season.

                                        Although he set a record for touchdowns his rookie year for the first four games. He caught 6 TD's.

                                        whippy fizz.. your blowing more hot air Millenial...

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                                          @vagitron said:

                                          Cool. Assuming he stays healthy and on the field I will check back with you at the end of the upcoming season.

                                          Although he set a record for touchdowns his rookie year for the first four games. He caught 6 TD's.

                                          whippy fizz.. your blowing more hot air Millenial...

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                                          @nickers said:

                                          whippy fizz.. your blowing more hot air Millenial...

                                          Nothing wrong with being a millennial. Are you a gen x or a baby boomer? If the latter you fucked everything up for everyone in the first place.

                                          When Bryant is tearing up the league I'm coming for you, you little pom pom tosser 😉

                                          AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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