Kyle Sloter is our QB target
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Both for me and Gip that Trubisky is white and from Ohio has nothing to do with it. Congrats for bringing up (again) the primary knock on Mitch. It's about the only one, other than some minor footwork issues.
Geeze, back in 2007 I was the #1 board hatah on Brady Quinn. Yeah- white guy from Ohio and Browns fan. So you can stuff that as the primary reason we like Trubisky.
No need to get all uppity. Just saying the race and Ohio connection don't strike me as a logical reasons to want a quarterback. Yeah he doesn't appear to have many knocks. Could it be because of a small sample size? Just throwing some possibilities out there.
Quite frankly Carson Wentz should be here and not Philadelphia thus making this Trubisky thing irrelevant. But I digress. From what I've seen of Trubisky, he might turn out to be really good. If the Browns pick him, I'm a fan of his automatically win, lose, or draw.
He wouldn't be my first choice. Then again, it's not my decision to make is it?
No need to get all uppity. Just saying the race and Ohio connection don't strike me as a logical reasons to want a quarterback.
Yet....clearly, apparently for YOU, they are logical reasons for NOT wanting a QB. Because that is ALL you see.
Are you a "reverse racist" ? You are coming off sounding like one.
Yeah he doesn't appear to have many knocks. Could it be because of a small sample size? Just throwing some possibilities out there.
Again, looking for the unknown "bad elements", when the known "good elements" are staring you smack in the face?
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Thanks for a "football" answer to a football question Ghoolie. That's all I was really asking for.
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So when limp biscuit gets pummeled in the pros because you think he can handle it from day one I will laugh. If you say we should pick him because of his raw potential talent that he will be good once properly couched. I will laugh at you. If you neglect the browns are like a block of Swiss cheese and getting a rookie QB this will fix shit. I will laugh at you.
So when limp biscuit gets pummeled in the pros because you think he can handle it from day one I will laugh. If you say we should pick him because of his raw potential talent that he will be good once properly couched. I will laugh at you. If you neglect the browns are like a block of Swiss cheese and getting a rookie QB this will fix shit. I will laugh at you.
No....a rookie QB won't fix shit, Sherlock. Beyond QB this team has a lot of work to do. But that QB could be the answer for the next decade when he has experience and is not a rookie.
Why are you so short sighted. Even if we take the DE #1....I don't think he makes much of a splash...if ever, until a couple of years into his career. He will initially get manhandled by NFL offensive linemen. Then, perhaps, he will learn some lessons that he can use in the long run.
One lesson he will learn right off is he ain't playing Prairie View any more.
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You're allowed to hate Mitch all you want. BTW, I don't think I know which qb you like- if any. Garrett isn't going to turn this D into the 1986 Chicago Bears by himself. So we only need around 5 other pro bowl guys on that side of the ball.
Just add 3 including Garrett and two or three of our current players get the support they need to rise to pro bowl level play.
Just add 3 including Garrett and two or three of our current players get the support they need to rise to pro bowl level play.
How about 3 plus Garrett. Need 2 pro bowl DBs....and either a pro bowl DT or OLB.
On the other hand...it seems to me the offense is in much better shape. We have a pretty set OL, and competent RBs.
Need really, in addition to that QB: another TE, and maybe another WR (and these could be Coleman/Britt...or one of the other rookies from last year if they step up).
We need 5 guys on defense...and only 1 or 2 others on offense (in addition to QB)
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So when limp biscuit gets pummeled in the pros because you think he can handle it from day one I will laugh. If you say we should pick him because of his raw potential talent that he will be good once properly couched. I will laugh at you. If you neglect the browns are like a block of Swiss cheese and getting a rookie QB this will fix shit. I will laugh at you.
No....a rookie QB won't fix shit, Sherlock. Beyond QB this team has a lot of work to do. But that QB could be the answer for the next decade when he has experience and is not a rookie.
Why are you so short sighted. Even if we take the DE #1....I don't think he makes much of a splash...if ever, until a couple of years into his career. He will initially get manhandled by NFL offensive linemen. Then, perhaps, he will learn some lessons that he can use in the long run.
One lesson he will learn right off is he ain't playing Prairie View any more.
No....a rookie QB won't fix shit, Sherlock. Beyond QB this team has a lot of work to do. But that QB could be the answer for the next decade when he has experience and is not a rookie.
Why are you so short sighted. Even if we take the DE #1....I don't think he makes much of a splash...if ever, until a couple of years into his career. He will initially get manhandled by NFL offensive linemen. Then, perhaps, he will learn some lessons that he can use in the long run.
One lesson he will learn right off is he ain't playing Prairie View any more.
Gip
I know it takes a couple years for the average QB which he is. I don't want to waste a 1st round pick in one this year. We don't have the luxury like new England or the farve/Rogers situation.
We can have players this year that can play from opening day for the next few years.
I am okay with not picking a QB. Kessler is servicible and so is Ox. Trubinsky reminds me of Quinn. Quinn was a bust and had way more upside than limp biscuit
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No....a rookie QB won't fix shit, Sherlock. Beyond QB this team has a lot of work to do. But that QB could be the answer for the next decade when he has experience and is not a rookie.
Why are you so short sighted. Even if we take the DE #1....I don't think he makes much of a splash...if ever, until a couple of years into his career. He will initially get manhandled by NFL offensive linemen. Then, perhaps, he will learn some lessons that he can use in the long run.
One lesson he will learn right off is he ain't playing Prairie View any more.
Gip
I know it takes a couple years for the average QB which he is. I don't want to waste a 1st round pick in one this year. We don't have the luxury like new England or the farve/Rogers situation.
We can have players this year that can play from opening day for the next few years.
I am okay with not picking a QB. Kessler is servicible and so is Ox. Trubinsky reminds me of Quinn. Quinn was a bust and had way more upside than limp biscuit
Gip
I know it takes a couple years for the average QB which he is. I don't want to waste a 1st round pick in one this year. We don't have the luxury like new England or the farve/Rogers situation.
WTF? Of course we have "the luxury". If this team were ready to contend, then perhaps we would not have the luxury. Where did you get the idea that this team was ready to compete for the playoffs THIS year?
The Browns are not like the 2003 Steelers, where they had a great defense in place, but all they needed was a QB to complete the package. If we were just a single defender...or even just a QB away from completing the package, that would be another matter. But the Browns are not there. So we are drafting a player for 2-3-4-5 years in the future.
We can have players this year that can play from opening day for the next few years.
Yes, for the next FEW years. But this year? It is NOT essential.
I am okay with not picking a QB. Kessler is servicible and so is Ox. Trubinsky reminds me of Quinn. Quinn was a bust and had way more upside than limp biscuit
Trubisky reminds me of Aaron Rodgers.
i just think you have no clue what you are looking at.
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marcus.... if it's any comfort, it's not just you.
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I see the complete opposite. First of all he's 6th round to UDFA. Zero downside and if he is even a good backup it's a coup. Starter makes the staff geniuses.
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Again might be the best QB since Brady. I'd be more LIKELY to believe that with a larger sample size. However, I'll concede that what I did see are what you all are pounding the table over. As far as seeing all of your other posts regarding skillset
Here's another question for you why cut the part of my post where I said if the Browns pick him I'm automatically a fan of his win, lose, or draw? Is it really that serious to discredit or demonize someone that doesn't agree with you?
Because that part of the post was not something I was responding to. Simple as that. I only quoted the parts I was replying to. Why would I need to paste it if I am not going to reply to it. That statement spoke for itself.
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