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  • L LondonBrown

    Might be interesting to some might not. What's not up for debate is our FO uses metrics just like this guide does,

    albeit never gonna be an exact mirror image.

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @londonbrown said:

    Might be interesting to some might not. What's not up for debate is our FO uses metrics just like this guide does,

    albeit never gonna be an exact mirror image.

    Then we can expect Watson to be the pick? Or Blair Browns?

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      Metric Analysis: David Njoku is off in a few areas as a multiple All-Pro tight end. But his overall age,

      athleticism, and production point toward a multiple Pro Bowl caliber tight end. And hes one of the

      few tight ends to hit an All-Pro MSA rating over 80. All signs point toward great things for Njoku.

      However, there are a few things off to make the claim that hes a truly generational talent.

      Scheme Fit: H-Back

      Projection: Long-term Starter to Pro Bowler

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        Metric Analysis: Jabrill Peppers has a very interesting data profile. Elite explosiveness and speed. With

        elite solo tackle and pass deflection market share. But his interception market share is not Pro Bowl

        level. In addition to not performing the short shuttle or 3-Cone to determine flexibility.

        A common concern of many who watched Peppers film including myself. So, what do we have here?

        We have an explosive speed athlete who is solid at making tackles and forcing dead plays with his pass

        deflections. But may not have elite abilities to find and capitalize on the ball in the air. How he was

        used can also play a role here.

        However, I would say based on his profile and athletic abilities that are proven I would project as a

        long-term free safety starter with a slight chance to become a Pro Bowl outlier due to age. He is a

        unique player with a unique profile. But being unique is not necessarily a bad thing when you have

        some elite qualities. It just means that the sum of all his parts are more likely to disappoint if you dont

        start with low expectations.

        Projection: Long-term Starter to Potential Pro Bowler

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          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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          Peppers at FS... not seeing that, but certainly makes him a better team fit if he can handle it.

          Njoku's youth may be as big an asset as anything. Blocking tech is pretty bad, but he seems willing.

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            Metric Analysis: Jabrill Peppers has a very interesting data profile. Elite explosiveness and speed. With

            elite solo tackle and pass deflection market share. But his interception market share is not Pro Bowl

            level. In addition to not performing the short shuttle or 3-Cone to determine flexibility.

            A common concern of many who watched Peppers film including myself. So, what do we have here?

            We have an explosive speed athlete who is solid at making tackles and forcing dead plays with his pass

            deflections. But may not have elite abilities to find and capitalize on the ball in the air. How he was

            used can also play a role here.

            However, I would say based on his profile and athletic abilities that are proven I would project as a

            long-term free safety starter with a slight chance to become a Pro Bowl outlier due to age. He is a

            unique player with a unique profile. But being unique is not necessarily a bad thing when you have

            some elite qualities. It just means that the sum of all his parts are more likely to disappoint if you dont

            start with low expectations.

            Projection: Long-term Starter to Potential Pro Bowler

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @londonbrown said:

            Metric Analysis: Gerbil Peppers has a very interesting data profile. Elite explosiveness and speed. With

            elite solo tackle and pass deflection market share. But his interception market share is not Pro Bowl

            level. In addition to not performing the short shuttle or 3-Cone to determine flexibility.

            A common concern of many who watched Peppers film including myself. So, what do we have here?

            We have an explosive speed athlete who is solid at making tackles and forcing dead plays with his pass

            deflections. But may not have elite abilities to find and capitalize on the ball in the air. How he was

            used can also play a role here.

            However, I would say based on his profile and athletic abilities that are proven I would project as a

            long-term free safety starter with a slight chance to become a Pro Bowl outlier due to age. He is a

            unique player with a unique profile. But being unique is not necessarily a bad thing when you have

            some elite qualities. It just means that the sum of all his parts are more likely to disappoint if you dont

            start with low expectations.

            Projection: Long-term Starter to Potential Pro Bowler

            I guess, if he can break up passes, and is a sure tackler...which you want from a strong safety, but his interception skills are weak, but also his punt/kick return skills are superlative, that should be satisfactory. We WILL be taking a CB and likely another safety before this draft is over....so they can do the intercepting.

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              Peppers at FS... not seeing that, but certainly makes him a better team fit if he can handle it.

              Njoku's youth may be as big an asset as anything. Blocking tech is pretty bad, but he seems willing.

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              @tour2ma said:

              Peppers at FS... not seeing that, but certainly makes him a better team fit if he can handle it.

              Njoku's youth may be as big an asset as anything. Blocking tech is pretty bad, but he seems willing.

              More strong safety, no?

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                In their press conference Hue said in the box and SS. And ST. And maybe, eventually some offense

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                  In their press conference Hue said in the box and SS. And ST. And maybe, eventually some offense

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  @mld-woody said:

                  ... eventually some offense

                  Going in, RB still looks to be his best position... but I guess we now have 5 SS candidates...

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                    @mld-woody said:

                    ... eventually some offense

                    Going in, RB still looks to be his best position... but I guess we now have 5 SS candidates...

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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Going in, RB still looks to be his best position...

                    I disagree. But ok

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      ... eventually some offense

                      Going in, RB still looks to be his best position... but I guess we now have 5 SS candidates...

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @tour2ma said:

                      Going in, RB still looks to be his best position... but I guess we now have 5 SS candidates...

                      You think none of these guys can play free safety? I agree that we need a free safety....and that we should get one with either 52 or 65.....but can no one else cover that spot? Either Powell or Kindred or Campbell?

                      Maybe Peppers CAN play some OLB. That is one of our prime areas of need...though I hope the Browns pick up a Tim Williams or Duke Riley or the like.

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                        C CaineDeSoulis wrote on last edited by
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                        Myles Garrett SPARQ 149.3 NFL% 98.7, #1 of 160 EDGE

                        David Njoku SPARQ 142.4 NFL% 96.9, #2 of 94 TE

                        Jabril Peppers SPARQ 130.7 NFL% 89.1, #6 of 238 S



                        i would check out the top 10 of any spot in need and assume the browns will go after it. some of the Biggest needs we have currently are at CB and QB

                        CB

                        1. Kevin King

                        5. Chidobe Awuzie

                        8. Ahkello Witherspoon

                        QB

                        5. Joshua Dobbs
                        6. Antonio Pipkin
                        12. Davis Webb

                        Coincidentally or these are all QB's we had at the senior bowl.

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                          L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                          All 21 or younger as well, the brief is clear

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                            Myles Garrett SPARQ 149.3 NFL% 98.7, #1 of 160 EDGE

                            David Njoku SPARQ 142.4 NFL% 96.9, #2 of 94 TE

                            Jabril Peppers SPARQ 130.7 NFL% 89.1, #6 of 238 S



                            i would check out the top 10 of any spot in need and assume the browns will go after it. some of the Biggest needs we have currently are at CB and QB

                            CB

                            1. Kevin King

                            5. Chidobe Awuzie

                            8. Ahkello Witherspoon

                            QB

                            5. Joshua Dobbs
                            6. Antonio Pipkin
                            12. Davis Webb

                            Coincidentally or these are all QB's we had at the senior bowl.

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                            @cainedesoulis said:

                            Myles Garrett SPARQ 149.3 NFL% 98.7, #1 of 160 EDGE

                            David Njoku SPARQ 142.4 NFL% 96.9, #2 of 94 TE

                            Jabril Peppers SPARQ 130.7 NFL% 89.1, #6 of 238 S

                            i would check out the top 10 of any spot in need and assume the browns will go after it. some of the Biggest needs we have currently are at CB and QB

                            CB

                            1. Kevin King

                            5. Chidobe Awuzie

                            8. Ahkello Witherspoon

                            QB

                            5. Joshua Dobbs

                            6. Antonio Pipkin

                            12. Davis Webb

                            Coincidentally or these are all QB's we had at the senior bowl.

                            I'll take a chimichanga (or is that a chalupa?) @ #52, and maybe Dobbs at the bottom of the 5th. If the metrics say Kizer sucks, I'm right with them. I'm going to pass watching today, and hope that the Browns don't screw up.

                            People, the trades say this year is another dumpster dive for Darnold in 2018.

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                              I think they get Peppers to LB ASAP.

                              Hit the roids kid.

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