Now THIS is how you draft!
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Two 1's and three 2's in 2018 add up to a shit-pot full of draft capital... ain't no denying that. As for our 2017 start...
Obviously I love Garrett... he was the only choice at #1.
While I get the Peppers is an athlete, I don't see his SS value... especially on a team with what I see as four legit contenders at SS already on the roster. Now his situational use? His return skills? Even his RB ability... I get those, but does that add up to the #25 overall?
Njoku... I can only guess our recon said move up or lose him. At 20 years old, he's a man-child with physical gifts. He does seem to have some "want-to" when it comes to inline blocking, but he has a ways to go... and I'm just not into one-dimensional TEs... especially when I see some already on our roster.
But man, do we ever have a gaping Day 2/3 hole in our draft now... and there are a lot of good players there.
This is spot on
This is spot on
Thanks, BH.... unfortunately we saw it play out tonite. Zero help for our 2ndary...
Now I gotta look in the bargain bins again...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
This is spot on
Thanks, BH.... unfortunately we saw it play out tonite. Zero help for our 2ndary...
Now I gotta look in the bargain bins again...
Thanks, BH.... unfortunately we saw it play out tonite. Zero help for our 2ndary...
Now I gotta look in the bargain bins again...
B....but....but... we got Jabrill
Pass rush can help our secondary. Watching as much film on Ogunjobi as I can right now. I'll be back tomorrow with my synopsis.
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Lots to like about Njoku. He's an exceptional athlete with the physique of an action figure, but I am wondering who told you he has exceptional hands? 11% drop rate falls short of exceptional in my book.
Something interesting: all of his drops were on passes 10 yards or less per PFF.
Something interesting: all of his drops were on passes 10 yards or less per PFF.
They've been labeled focus drops, which doesn't necessarily mean he has bad hands, but he still has work to put in to be considered a guy with "exceptional hands"
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Thanks, BH.... unfortunately we saw it play out tonite. Zero help for our 2ndary...
Now I gotta look in the bargain bins again...
B....but....but... we got Jabrill
Pass rush can help our secondary. Watching as much film on Ogunjobi as I can right now. I'll be back tomorrow with my synopsis.
B....but....but... we got Jabrill
Pass rush can help our secondary. Watching as much film on Ogunjobi as I can right now. I'll be back tomorrow with my synopsis.
Just to be clear... I wasn't dumping on Peppers... just noting we did not add any additional pieces to our 2ndary tonite... and there were many to be had.
jobi has raw talent... looks both fast and powerful enough to back up everywhere from the 0 to 3 and maybe 5-tech, but not really an additional pass rush presence. Pretty sure we took care of that last nite...
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@boo-fagley said:
But they are playoff caliber QBs who have been there a time or two.
The Browns need Jimmy Garrapolo yesterday. Drafting a QB now is another hope and see approach. Chicago did not screw around even after signing Glennon.
Don't get all butt hurt because we didn't trade for Wonder Boy. Don't single out the Browns either. The Chiefs and Texans traded away first round picks to move up and take qbs- but passed on offering their first rounders to the Patriots for Jimmy. Meaning they liked Mahomes and Watson better. Repeat after me- overrated.... Yeah, the Browns probably Browns it up taking Kizer, I would have traded a couple thirds too- to take Trubisky- But to move up from #12 would have been a sell the ranch move. The Bears not only screwed the Browns, but the Titans on top of it taking Mitch that early. I'd bet some heavy coin Cleveland and Tennessee had a trade worked out for the #5 pick. The Titans wound up having to take a WR @ #5 that they were planning on taking at #12.
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With the context and background knowledge I have, it's even more entertaining
Yes a true legend in your own mind.
Context? Really? Not normal football jargon.
Yes a true legend in your own mind.
Context? Really? Not normal football jargon.
Nope. But we've got a guy that started following Jabrill on the recruiting trail, watched every college snap he took, and saw him in person multiple times
Vs a few guys that think they're elite NFL scouts
Vs even more guys that made their evaluation as soon as the word "Michigan" came up
Just saying. Context
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Yes a true legend in your own mind.
Context? Really? Not normal football jargon.
Nope. But we've got a guy that started following Jabrill on the recruiting trail, watched every college snap he took, and saw him in person multiple times
Vs a few guys that think they're elite NFL scouts
Vs even more guys that made their evaluation as soon as the word "Michigan" came up
Just saying. Context
Nope. But we've got a guy that started following Jabrill on the recruiting trail, watched every college snap he took, and saw him in person multiple times
Vs a few guys that think they're elite NFL scouts
Vs even more guys that made their evaluation as soon as the word "Michigan" came up.
Just saying. Context
Woody, I have to admit my dislike for the Woverines is far less than my disgust for the Golden Domers. I wouldn't hate you guys 1\2 as bad if you could do something about those horribly ugly helmets. Topped only by Maryland's.
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Wow, the nay sayers crack me up.
I like the picks so far!! The browns are putting together a team first and then will plug in a Qb to finish it next year.
Why draft a Qb and have him get destroyed or end up gun shy this upcoming season?
Peppers is going to be the next polomalu and totally rejuvenate the defense.
I have no problems with what they have done and until the season starts not a single one of you can predict what is going to happen. Let it play out and then reserve judgement.
Go Browns!!!!
Oh and Fuck Off Ghoolie!!
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I don't really think Grossi is that bad. Goldhammer is the one who needs the Browns to suck so he can continue his heel routine. He is such a weak radio personality that he needs a gimmick like trolling browns fans and nepotism.
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Nope. But we've got a guy that started following Jabrill on the recruiting trail, watched every college snap he took, and saw him in person multiple times
Vs a few guys that think they're elite NFL scouts
Vs even more guys that made their evaluation as soon as the word "Michigan" came up.
Just saying. Context
Woody, I have to admit my dislike for the Woverines is far less than my disgust for the Golden Domers. I wouldn't hate you guys 1\2 as bad if you could do something about those horribly ugly helmets. Topped only by Maryland's.
Woody, I have to admit my dislike for the Woverines is far less than my disgust for the Golden Domers. I wouldn't hate you guys 1\2 as bad if you could do something about those horribly ugly helmets. Topped only by Maryland's.
At least our helmets are money in the bank. Just look closely at the letters in the order they appear left to right.
Get it?
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@boo-fagley said:
But they are playoff caliber QBs who have been there a time or two.
The Browns need Jimmy Garrapolo yesterday. Drafting a QB now is another hope and see approach. Chicago did not screw around even after signing Glennon.
Don't get all butt hurt because we didn't trade for Wonder Boy. Don't single out the Browns either. The Chiefs and Texans traded away first round picks to move up and take qbs- but passed on offering their first rounders to the Patriots for Jimmy. Meaning they liked Mahomes and Watson better. Repeat after me- overrated.... Yeah, the Browns probably Browns it up taking Kizer, I would have traded a couple thirds too- to take Trubisky- But to move up from #12 would have been a sell the ranch move. The Bears not only screwed the Browns, but the Titans on top of it taking Mitch that early. I'd bet some heavy coin Cleveland and Tennessee had a trade worked out for the #5 pick. The Titans wound up having to take a WR @ #5 that they were planning on taking at #12.
Don't get all butt hurt because we didn't trade for Wonder Boy. Don't single out the Browns either. The Chiefs and Texans traded away first round picks to move up and take qbs- but passed on offering their first rounders to the Patriots for Jimmy. Meaning they liked Mahomes and Watson better. Repeat after me- overrated.... Yeah, the Browns probably Browns it up taking Kizer, I would have traded a couple thirds too- to take Trubisky- But to move up from #12 would have been a sell the ranch move. The Bears not only screwed the Browns, but the Titans on top of it taking Mitch that early. I'd bet some heavy coin Cleveland and Tennessee had a trade worked out for the #5 pick. The Titans wound up having to take a WR @ #5 that they were planning on taking at #12.
One man's "screwed" is another man's "saved"...
Consider your examples of teams moving up for QBs... what does that tell you about the so-called, consensus, best QB in the draft?
Back later.... gotta go say hello to an old friend I haven't seen in a while...
@boo-fagley said:
Its better for the Pats to keep Jimmy for insurance. Brisett can do the job, but Jimmy is ready to step in now like Brady was for Bledsoe.
boo... welcome back buddy... was hoping you'd have had some fresh material for your return, but I guess not...
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My favorite line for the entire draft so far with a bit of paraphrase from memory, "The 49ers set out the old bait under a box with a stick and a string trap and caught themselves a Bear."
Now that there is funny, I don't care who you are.
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Lynch picked up a second rounder next year from the Saints he's impressing in his first draft
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Pretty good article on the draft so far: https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-draft-winners-losers-believe-browns-things-smart-way-044250536.html
"Then the Browns – who everyone figured would get crazy and take a quarterback, maybe even trading up, in a draft class that wasn’t deep at quarterback – had a moment of zen. They were the sellers, not the buyers."
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Yes a true legend in your own mind.
Context? Really? Not normal football jargon.
Nope. But we've got a guy that started following Jabrill on the recruiting trail, watched every college snap he took, and saw him in person multiple times
Vs a few guys that think they're elite NFL scouts
Vs even more guys that made their evaluation as soon as the word "Michigan" came up
Just saying. Context
Nope. But we've got a guy that started following Jabrill on the recruiting trail, watched every college snap he took, and saw him in person multiple times
Vs a few guys that think they're elite NFL scouts
Vs even more guys that made their evaluation as soon as the word "Michigan" came up
Just saying. Context
I don't fit any of those..... and still love the pick.
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@boo-fagley said:
The Browns defense has the potential to be lights out, but you cannot have an offense that puts them on the field all game long.
The Browns defense was like 31st or 32d last year. It is going to take more than a single DE to improve that.......and even adding a DB won't do it all. Two things could: the guys taken in past years really step up: Ogbah/Nassib/Schobert/Orchard etc. ....or they get really, really lucky with these lower round picks and find a couple of defensive studs that everyone else missed on.
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The Draft it's like kissing girls in the dark. you don't know who you are kissing.
but grown men are paid 6 figure wages to do so. great work if you get it.
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The Draft it's like kissing girls in the dark. you don't know who you are kissing.
but grown men are paid 6 figure wages to do so. great work if you get it.
The Draft it's like kissing girls in the dark. you don't know who you are kissing.
but grown men are paid 6 figure wages to do so. great work if you get it.
Is this a recruitment ad?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Nope. But we've got a guy that started following Jabrill on the recruiting trail, watched every college snap he took, and saw him in person multiple times
Vs a few guys that think they're elite NFL scouts
Vs even more guys that made their evaluation as soon as the word "Michigan" came up
Just saying. Context
I don't fit any of those..... and still love the pick.
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